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[h=1]Gambler hits jackpot? Now, he's suing[/h] [h=6]
Feb. 14, 2014 3:09 PM |
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[h=6]Written by[/h] [h=5]Kimball Perry[/h]




Thomas Hughley was ecstatic when, while playing craps last month at Horseshoe Casino Cincinnati, a combination was rolled that hit his 999-to-1 bet.
Hughley, of West Price Hill, parlayed $5 into $5,000 – or so he thought.
After taking his money for several losing bets, the casino said Hughley wasn’t eligible to win the 999-to-1 bet and wouldn’t pay. Now, he hopes to parlay his lawsuit against the casino into a $500,000 jackpot.
A casino spokeswoman said she doesn’t comment on litigation.
Hughley was playing craps – a table game where bets on won or lost depending on rolls of dice – Jan. 16 at Horseshoe. He’d lost several bets before he decided to place a “fire” bet. That’s a complicated series of rolls of dice that, while difficult, paid big.
A winning fire bet requires a 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10 to be rolled by the shooter before crapping out – rolling a 2, 3, 7, 11 or 12 and losing. The more of those numbers rolled, the higher the odds. The odds of rolling all six number – 4, 5, 6, 8, 9 and 10 – before crapping out are 999-to-1.
Hughley placed a $5 fire bet at the craps table. When it hit, he expected the casino to pay him $4,995 plus his original $5 bet. Instead of giving him $5,000, though, the casino wouldn’t pay.
“He paid his individual bets,” Derek Gustafson, Hughley’s attorney, said after filing the Thursday suit in Hamilton County Common Pleas Court. “But when it came to paying the 999-to-1 bet, they asked to see his ID.”
When casino officials ran his name through their records, they saw Hughley was on a list noting he voluntarily banned himself from Indiana casinos. Because Horseshoe has a sister casino in Hammond, Ind., it contends Hughley also should be banned from the Cincinnati Horseshoe and didn’t give him the $5,000 he won on the fire bet.
Hughley’s attorney, though, noted the casino took Hughley’s money when he lost bets even though he was on the Indiana Voluntary Exclusion Program.
Horseshoe has a policy, Gustafson said, that notes it “may” ban someone from other Horseshoe casinos who seeks to voluntarily excluded in one state, but it’s not definite. Hughley, he added, never was told he’d been banned in Indiana or Ohio.
Hughley has never been told not to come into a Horseshoe casino in either state, Gustafson said, and should be given the money for winning the bet.
“While they’ve got a right to exclude him if the want to, they’ve got to tell him,” Gustafson said.“He’s never been given any kind of notice, ‘Don’t Come to Horseshoe.’
 

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these casino's will do anything not to pay someone
 
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Now that's messed up....

There have been a few cases like this over the years in different States, not sure how they made out
 

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ya i argued with a manager for 30 mins at the casino here in pgh over 10$ i should have won on the stupid money wheel dealer called it a no spin but it clearly landed on 1$ which i had a 10$ bet on now i have what some would call a gambling problem lol so I'm at the casino rather frequently after having a conversation with 3 pit bosses they actually had to review the tape and finally gave me my 10$ in chips like i said this went on for about half an hour for 10$ lol
 

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a degenerate gambler stiffing is one thing but a casino taking shots is even lower
 

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Once I was at a work conference at GVR in Vegas. I sat down to play blackjack. Sat at a $5 table and put 2 $100bills down. As I was checking my pockets for chips the dealer starts deals the cards. Unfortunately, I was first and there were 3 other people at the table. I didnt even look at my card I stuck my hand out and said no I wanted you to break this down, thats why I slid you the cash. Dealer argued and said nothing he could do and continued dealing. Luckily a pit boss was right there and after the hand was over (I lost) he came up and gave me $200 in chips. I walked over to the next table and continued playing. Never had a stiff story yet, but also have never won too big lol
 

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when I read the title..first thought was someone across the street..haha..Shush()*
 

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I don't really think the casino is taking a shot, we have argosy here on the Missouri side and Hollywood casino on the Kansas side. they are sister properties and they honor each others exclusion list. so if u ban urself from argosy, u ban urself from Hollywood. Now since the payoff was higher than 500 to 1 (atleast where im from), its called a jackpot bonus and they have to take taxes out immediately, so if the person then finally just turned in their id and the casino found out you weren't suppose to be on the property (here you get arrested for trespassing) if u ban urself and then come gamble, he wasn't legally allowed to make that fire bet
 

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this does not seem right. banning yourself seems stupid but they are not even paying all his losses back?
 

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this does not seem right. banning yourself seems stupid but they are not even paying all his losses back?

we have people that ban themselves and still come In and play slots. they will hit a jackpot on the slots and take off running out of the casino. they know they will be arrested and cant claim the cash
 

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I don't really think the casino is taking a shot, we have argosy here on the Missouri side and Hollywood casino on the Kansas side. they are sister properties and they honor each others exclusion list. so if u ban urself from argosy, u ban urself from Hollywood. Now since the payoff was higher than 500 to 1 (atleast where im from), its called a jackpot bonus and they have to take taxes out immediately, so if the person then finally just turned in their id and the casino found out you weren't suppose to be on the property (here you get arrested for trespassing) if u ban urself and then come gamble, he wasn't legally allowed to make that fire bet



KIDMAN,whats that other casino out there called,AMERICAN something,its on the kansas side
 

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we have people that ban themselves and still come In and play slots. they will hit a jackpot on the slots and take off running out of the casino. they know they will be arrested and cant claim the cash



well thats just plain stupid,why would you play something when you can't get anything out of it
 

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ameristar,is what its called




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Ameristar.... they are addicted and tried to ban themselves, but still come back. I guess they are hoping they can nickel and dime a machine to make a few hundred without triggering a jackpot payoff
 

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​yea ive been there several times
 

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This really is not even a story.

No different than some sorry assed underage kid hitting a jackpot. Cannot be paid pure and simple.

P.S. Probably the only thing dumber than playing in a casino to start with is playing knowing you will most likely lose AND can't get paid if you win. That, I guess, would be one really good definition of a degenerate.
 

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Stupid is, as stupid does. Banning yourself then going in and playing knowing they'll take your money when you lose and stiff you if you win.
Casino has a moral responsibility to not take advantage of degenerates, but casino and morality is an oxymoron.
 

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