The GOP was right on this one. Unfortunately here's the truth about ACORN.

[3peet]

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[cutacrossshorty]

There is a scam afoot. The scam is to get people to believe that there's massive voter fraud in the works and that it's being perpetuated by ACORN.

Here's a press conference (in full - about 45 minutes) that included representatives from ACORN as well as two other organizations (Common Cause and Demos). Common Cause is run by a former congressman. Demos is run by a former Secretary of State.

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[brucefan]

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What a load of Crap!

They make it sound like ACORN is just a sweet and innocent group, just trying to help people

PLEASE, Does anybody actually read the evidence! The facts!

Voter fraud , blackmailing banks, radicalizing kids, give me a break!

1. So what did Obama actually do when he was community organizing? Train workers for vote-fraudsters ACORN
2. Obama's 16 year ties to Socialist activist Group ACORN are deep
3. Obama vote fraud: ABC reports DNC paying cash to people in Virginia as incentive to register; 66% of new voters are under 35
4. Obama's ACORN & Move-on are helping him fight to retain racial preferences; they're using dirty tricks to defeat democracy
5. New Mexico: county finds over 1100 "suspicious" voter registrations: duplicate names; DA notified; Obama's ACORN involved
6. Photo ID: 82% want it for voters; why are Obama & ACORN opposed? Dems try to hide cash for ACORN in Housing Recovery Bill
7. Pittsburgh Tribune demands Federal investigation into Obama friends at ACORN the vote fraud specialists
8. Team Obama made huge payments to offshoot of vote fraudsters ACORN; Obama continues to deny links
9. Obama's ACORN try to register the entire starting lineup of the Dallas Cowboys to vote in Nevada; Authorities raid ACORN offices
10. Photo ID: 82% want it for voters; why are Obama & ACORN opposed? Dems try to hide cash for ACORN in Housing Recovery Bill

ACORN -- the Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now -- describes itself as "the nation's largest community organization of low- and moderate-income families, working together for social justice and stronger communities."
How nice.
We prefer the definition provided by journalist Stanley Kurtz, who calls ACORN "the most politically radical large-scale activist group in the country."

We also prefer Michelle Malkin's characterization of ACORN's social work -- using billions in government subsidies "to organize for the purpose of registering dead people to vote, shaking down corporations and using the race card as a bludgeon."
Sadly, ACORN's mix of welfarism and left-wing troublemaking has been a cancer in our cities for 38 years. Its latest scandal revolves around the embezzlement of nearly $1 million by the brother of its founder, Wade Rathke.
Though the theft was discovered by ACORN in 2000, senior executives did not reveal it until they were forced to by a whistle-blower in May.
Now, two ACORN board members are suing the organization to force the release of financial documents and make Mr. Rathke -- who supposedly resigned after the theft was exposed -- stay away from ACORN management.
It's all very ugly. But not half as ugly as ACORN itself, which now has more than 300,000 families organized into chapters in 110 cities. But ACORN is worthy of only one thing -- a thorough federal investigation.

 

[Mistermj]

Good work Brucefan.

I would like to add...ACORN is currently under investigation for a million dollar embezzlement scandal that ACORN got caught trying to cover up.

ACORN is corrupt from the inside out.

Americans know the truth...FBI investigations underway in multiple states...offices being raided.

The lame excuse thats its just registration workers trying to make a buck doesn't work anymore.

Dems will do ANYTHING to win...including outright lies and cheating the system.

The overwhelming majority of Americams want voter ID laws passed to stop this crap. Call your elected officials people...and do what I did if ACORN comes around....kick their ass of your property...and follow them down the street...tell your neighbors they are the corrupt ACORN organization.

I threatened them with trespassing and kept them out of the entire apartment building that I own. They didn't register anyone on my watch.

 

[3peet]

So how is Mickey Mouse's vote supposed to swing an election again?? I"m all ears.

 

[Mistermj]

So how is Mickey Mouse's vote supposed to swing an election again?? I"m all ears.

Acorn pretends its just the registration workers shenanigans to make their quota's...blame it on the workers...act like ACORN is the one being ripped off...repeat this lie over and over....give the talking points to the left wing media to repeat over and over...eventually some dupes will actually believe it.

Then use the massive registrations to overwhelm the polling stations available resources...keep flooding them with registrations. ACORN can even claim that they must catch and turn in the bogus ones...very convenient! This only helps their cause to flood the polling stations.
Dupes will believe you are actually trying to catch illegal registrations...when all along the intent is to flood the polling stations with numbers they can't handle.

Once this is accomplished...operatives can use stolen identitites or depending on state rules...vote the phony registrants with absentee ballots in which proof of ID is not needed .

This is how they did it in Milwaukee in 2004...Wisconsin does not require proof of ID with absentee ballot. Once the phony registrations are in...you can't catch it. And that is why there aren't prosecutions...you can't catch it...its not that it isn't being done.

As proof in Milwaukee...they had 4600 more votes cast than registered voters.

ACORN pulls this stuff in a lot of places to provide the smokescreen...and then they swoop in on key battleground states where they know they can get away with it...and where it might swing the election.

Like Milwaukee in 2004...Bush only won by 11,000 votes in Wisconsin...this could tip the whole election. It's obvious what they are doing...it's not a coincidence that this just happened in a state with just an 11,000 vote margin and very loose rules.

The writings on the wall ...for anyone with a brain.

Inquiry finds evidence of fraud in election

Cast ballots outnumber voters by 4,609

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=324933

 

[cutacrossshorty]

This is how they did it in Milwaukee in 2004...Wisconsin does not require proof of ID with absentee ballot. Once the phony registrations are in...you can't catch it. And that is why there aren't prosecutions...you can't catch it...its not that it isn't being done.

As proof in Milwaukee...they had 4600 more votes cast than registered voters.

ACORN pulls this stuff in a lot of places to provide the smokescreen...and then they swoop in on key battleground states where they know they can get away with it...and where it might swing the election.

Like Milwaukee in 2004...Bush only won by 11,000 votes in Wisconsin...this could tip the whole election. It's obvious what they are doing...it's not a coincidence that this just happened in a state with just an 11,000 vote margin and very loose rules.

The writings on the wall ...for anyone with a brain.

Inquiry finds evidence of fraud in election

Cast ballots outnumber voters by 4,609

http://www.jsonline.com/story/index.aspx?id=324933

Putting aside ridiculous conspiracy theories, as usual "MR_MJ" is anything but truthful. For "anyone with a brain" who decides to read the story, there's absolutely no mention of ACORN in the entire article. In addition, there's no conclusion as to who benifitted from any alleged fraud. There's only a general agreement amongst most who've looked at the evidence that there was some level of fraud and that those responsible need to be prosecuted.

One important paragraph to make note of is the following:

---Biskupic said there was no indication of a widespread conspiracy to commit voter fraud, or of any knowledge or involvement by poll workers or any other city officials.---


It should also be noted that the date on the story is May 11, 2005. I would think that by now there has been a full investigation and if the findings supported any of the unsubstantiated claims "MR_MJ" makes, he would've used them.

 

[Mistermj]

As I said ,its hard to prove with Wisconsins lame voter laws.

One the phony registration is in...anyone can vote it with an absentee ballot...no ID required.

Cut Shorty approves of this vote fraud.

It's obvious.

4600 extra votes isn't proof of widespread conspiracy? What is?

Look at the headline:

Inquiry finds evidence of fraud in election

Cast ballots outnumber voters by 4,609

 

[Risk44]

SSSShhhhh!!! Keep it down... Its all a Vast leftwing conspiracy...

:missingte:missingte:missingte

 

[Risk44]

As I said ,its hard to prove with Wisconsins lame voter laws.

One the phony registration is in...anyone can vote it with an absentee ballot...no ID required.

Cut Shorty approves of this vote fraud.

It's obvious.

4600 extra votes isn't proof of widespread conspiracy? What is?

Look at the headline:

Inquiry finds evidence of fraud in election

Cast ballots outnumber voters by 4,609

In order to recieve an Absentee Ballot

a postal vote, the ballot papers are posted out to the voter - usually only on request to the registered address of the voter - who must then fill them out and return them, often with some form of certification by a witness and their signature to prove their identity.


:nohead::nohead:

keep that false outrage goin there...

 

[3peet]

keep that false outrage goin there...

When your drowning...you'll grab at anything to stay afloat.

 

[Mistermj]

In order to recieve an Absentee Ballot

a postal vote, the ballot papers are posted out to the voter - usually only on request to the registered address of the voter - who must then fill them out and return them, often with some form of certification by a witness and their signature to prove their identity.


:nohead::nohead:

keep that false outrage goin there...

No...you are wrong.

I'm talking about the extra 4600 votes in Milwaukee Wis.

Wisconsin does not require ID for absentee ballot.

Your postal ballot link is a generic wiki article...:lol:

 

[3peet]

No...you are wrong.

I'm talking about the extra 4600 votes in Milwaukee Wis.

Wisconsin does not require ID for absentee ballot.

Your postal ballot link is a generic wiki article...:lol:

so your telling me an alleged 4600 votes in Wisconsin are whats gonna swing an already strong Obama state bluer????

 

[Mistermj]

so your telling me an alleged 4600 votes in Wisconsin are whats gonna swing an already strong Obama state bluer????

No...if you read my post you could see that I was using 2004 as an example...Bush won Wisconsin by only 11,000 votes.

Thats why ACORN had the desperate push in Milwaukee ect....4600 votes just in Milwaukee...they almost pulled it off.

It's well known what happened here...I saw ACORN in action up close and personal.

And thats why I know cut shorty is completely full of crap.

 

[gtc08]

ACORN is 1 of hundreds of groups.

you got both sides challenging voters, caging voters. something like 8,000 lawyers will be at the poll sites.

acorn is only a big story because mccain wants to make it be one. and it isnt working. obama's rcp is up to 7.2

realistically though acorn will have no impact on the election. mccain is playing it as a card when he loses, but if you just think about it reasonably, which is tough for you guys who are hooked to one party, they will have no impact.

 

[cutacrossshorty]

No...if you read my post you could see that I was using 2004 as an example...Bush won Wisconsin by only 11,000 votes.

Thats why ACORN had the desperate push in Milwaukee ect....4600 votes just in Milwaukee...they almost pulled it off.

It's well known what happened here...I saw ACORN in action up close and personal.

And thats why I know cut shorty is completely full of crap.

Fuck you. You're so fucking dishonest and you expect others to take your word for things.

Read the article you posted. There is no mention of ACORN. There is no mention as to what accounts for the discrepency (except for maybe a glitch). To quote the Bush appointed U.S. attorney:

"there was no indication of a widespread conspiracy to commit voter fraud, or of any knowledge or involvement by poll workers or any other city officials."

You are drawing conclusions from non-existent evidence. Anyone that listens to you is a fool (which should go without sayng at this point).

 

[Mistermj]

Fuck you. You're so fucking dishonest and you expect others to take your word for things.

Read the article you posted. There is no mention of ACORN. There is no mention as to what accounts for the discrepency (except for maybe a glitch). To quote the Bush appointed U.S. attorney:

"there was no indication of a widespread conspiracy to commit voter fraud, or of any knowledge or involvement by poll workers or any other city officials."

You are drawing conclusions from non-existent evidence. Anyone that listens to you is a fool (which should go without sayng at this point).

I live near Milwaukee...I KNOW what ACORN was doing.

I was there...and thats why I KNOW you are full of crap.

In fact I tried to join ACORN to find out what they were doing.

I met with ACORN reps in South eastern Wisconsin.

I KNOW you are full of crap...period.

YOu are just spouting ACORN talking points...the bottom line is phony votes were cast in Milwaukee...about 4600 were discovered...who knows how many slipped through.

You are dead wrong shorty...and full of crap.

And I noticed you continue to dodge the matter of the million dollar embezzlement scandal with in ACORN.

ACORN = corruption

Cut shorty = full of crappola

 

[cutacrossshorty]

IIn fact I tried to join ACORN to find out what they were doing.

I have little doubt that Republican operatives try to join them so they could infiltrate and sabatoge them. Some probably succeed.

I met with ACORN reps in South eastern Wisconsin.

What disqualified you? Did they recognize that you're dishonest and were trying to dupe them?

I KNOW you are full of crap...period.

so says the poster with no shame whatsoever who has less credibilty than any other regular poster.

the bottom line is phony votes were cast in Milwaukee...about 4600 were discovered...who knows how many slipped through.

What were the results of that investigation? The original article draws no conclusions other than the Bush appointed U.S. Attorney saying

"there was no indication of a widespread conspiracy to commit voter fraud, or of any knowledge or involvement by poll workers or any other city officials."

It should be beyond obvious to anyone reading who's full of shit.

And I noticed you continue to dodge the matter of the million dollar embezzlement scandal with in ACORN.

Not relevant to the bogus claims of voter fraud.

 

[Mistermj]

Oops...here's some more smoke...cut shorty's lying ass is on fire. :missingte

ACORN Submitted ‘Thousands and Thousands of Phony’ Voter Registrations, County Registrar Says
Wednesday, October 22, 2008



CNSNews.com) – The Association for Community Reform Now (ACORN) submitted nearly 90,000 voter registration applications to the registrar’s office in Clark County, Nev., this year, among which were “thousands and thousands and thousands of phony and duplicate applications” that ACORN did not mark as suspicious, Larry Lomax, Clark Country registrar of voters, told CNSNews.com.

:smoker2:

 

[brucefan]

They're real sweethearts

Report Raises Questions About Use of ACORN's Funds

The New York Times reports on an internal memo that raises new questions about the way ACORN's funding is used.


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ACORN was drawing new scrutiny Wednesday after an internal memo surfaced that raised concerns about whether the low-income advocacy organization improperly used charitable dollars for political purposes.
The memo, written by Washington lawyer Elizabeth Kingsley, delved into ACORN's relationship with Project Vote, a group Barack Obama worked with in Chicago in the mid-'90s.
The memo, according to a report in The New York Times, said the close ACORN-Project Vote ties make it impossible to determine whether Project Vote's funds were used only for non-partisan purposes, as the law requires. The two organizations work together on voter registration drives.
The memo also addressed concerns about money transfers among ACORN affiliates and potential conflicts caused by employees of multiple affiliates, and it gave a different account from the organization of the embezzlement of almost $1 million by the brother of ACORN's founder, according to the Times report.
Bertha Lewis, ACORN's top executive, told the Times the group is looking into the report and has "taken everything [Kingsley] said in the report very seriously."
ACORN spokesman Scott Levenson released a statement Wednesday saying the memo shows the organization was taking a responsible look at its own operation.
"Contrary to the implications of today's story, this internal report is an example of an organization and its board taking comprehensive steps to improve its governance and ensure that its work is conducted in accordance with all appropriate laws. Nowhere in the report is there any hint that our work was being conducted outside the letter of the law," he said.
ACORN, which is under investigation for voter registration fraud in several states, has consistently said its voter registration efforts are non-partisan.
The group, along with the Obama campaign, is fighting back against the fraud allegations.



http://www.nytimes.com/2008/10/22/us/22acorn.html?_r=1&scp=2&sq=acorn&st=cse&oref=slogin