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Sarah Palin's War on Science

The GOP ticket's appalling contempt for knowledge and learning.

By Christopher Hitchens
Posted Monday, Oct. 27, 2008, at 11:43 AM ET
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In an election that has been fought on an astoundingly low cultural and intellectual level, with both candidates pretending that tax cuts can go like peaches and cream with the staggering new levels of federal deficit, and paltry charges being traded in petty ways, and with Joe the Plumber becoming the emblematic stupidity of the campaign, it didn't seem possible that things could go any lower or get any dumber. But they did last Friday, when, at a speech in Pittsburgh, Gov. Sarah Palin denounced wasteful expenditure on fruit-fly research, adding for good xenophobic and anti-elitist measure that some of this research took place "in Paris, France" and winding up with a folksy "I kid you not."

It was in 1933 that Thomas Hunt Morgan won a Nobel Prize for showing that genes are passed on by way of chromosomes. The experimental creature that he employed in the making of this great discovery was the Drosophila melanogaster, or fruit fly. Scientists of various sorts continue to find it a very useful resource, since it can be easily and plentifully "cultured" in a laboratory, has a very short generation time, and displays a great variety of mutation. This makes it useful in studying disease, and since Gov. Palin was in Pittsburgh to talk about her signature "issue" of disability and special needs, she might even have had some researcher tell her that there is a Drosophila-based center for research into autism at the University of North Carolina. The fruit fly can also be a menace to American agriculture, so any financing of research into its habits and mutations is money well-spent. It's especially ridiculous and unfortunate that the governor chose to make such a fool of herself in Pittsburgh, a great city that remade itself after the decline of coal and steel into a center of high-tech medical research.

In this case, it could be argued, Palin was not just being a fool in her own right but was following a demagogic lead set by the man who appointed her as his running mate. Sen. John McCain has made repeated use of an anti-waste and anti-pork ad (several times repeated and elaborated in his increasingly witless speeches) in which the expenditure of $3 million to study the DNA of grizzly bears in Montana was derided as "unbelievable."

As an excellent article in the Feb. 8, 2008, Scientific American pointed out, there is no way to enforce the Endangered Species Act without getting some sort of estimate of numbers, and the best way of tracking and tracing the elusive grizzly is by setting up barbed-wire hair-snagging stations that painlessly take samples from the bears as they lumber by and then running the DNA samples through a laboratory. The cost is almost trivial compared with the importance of understanding this species, and I dare say the project will yield results in the measurement of other animal populations as well, but all McCain could do was be flippant and say that he wondered whether it was a "paternity" or "criminal" issue that the Fish and Wildlife Service was investigating. (Perhaps those really are the only things that he associates in his mind with DNA.)

With Palin, however, the contempt for science may be something a little more sinister than the bluff, empty-headed plain-man's philistinism of McCain. We never get a chance to ask her in detail about these things, but she is known to favor the teaching of creationism in schools (smuggling this crazy idea through customs in the innocent disguise of "teaching the argument," as if there was an argument), and so it is at least probable that she believes all creatures from humans to fruit flies were created just as they are now. This would make DNA or any other kind of research pointless, whether conducted in Paris or not. Projects such as sequencing the DNA of the flu virus, the better to inoculate against it, would not need to be funded. We could all expire happily in the name of God. Gov. Palin also says that she doesn't think humans are responsible for global warming; again, one would like to ask her whether, like some of her co-religionists, she is a "premillenial dispensationalist"—in other words, someone who believes that there is no point in protecting and preserving the natural world, since the end of days will soon be upon us.

Videos taken in the Assembly of God church in Wasilla, Alaska, which she used to attend, show her nodding as a preacher says that Alaska will be "one of the refuge states in the Last Days." For the uninitiated, this is a reference to a crackpot belief, widely held among those who brood on the "End Times," that some parts of the world will end at different times from others, and Alaska will be a big draw as the heavens darken on account of its wide open spaces. An article by Laurie Goodstein in the New York Timesgives further gruesome details of the extreme Pentecostalism with which Palin has been associated in the past (perhaps moderating herself, at least in public, as a political career became more attractive). High points, also available on YouTube, show her being "anointed" by an African bishop who claims to cast out witches. The term used in the trade for this hysterical superstitious nonsense is "spiritual warfare," in which true Christian soldiers are trained to fight demons. Palin has spoken at "spiritual warfare" events as recently as June. And only last week the chiller from Wasilla spoke of "prayer warriors" in a radio interview with James Dobson of Focus on the Family, who said that he and his lovely wife, Shirley, had convened a prayer meeting to beseech that "God's perfect will be done on Nov. 4."

This is what the Republican Party has done to us this year: It has placed within reach of the Oval Office a woman who is a religious fanatic and a proud, boastful ignoramus. Those who despise science and learning are not anti-elitist. They are morally and intellectually slothful people who are secretly envious of the educated and the cultured. And those who prate of spiritual warfare and demons are not just "people of faith" but theocratic bullies. On Nov. 4, anyone who cares for the Constitution has a clear duty to repudiate this wickedness and stupidity.
 

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Me like Christopher Hitchens. Ever since i seen him on Marhers show, i have always made it a point to read his stuff. good post.
 

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Richard Dawkins, whom the religious followers of the religion
of Darwinism worship, has this to say about Intelligent Design:

BEN STEIN: What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in evolution.

DAWKINS: Well, it could come about in the following way. It could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved, probably by some kind of Darwinian means, probably to a very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Now, um, now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.

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BWHAHAHAAHHA. Aliens coming and blowing their sperm on earth, creating
life as we know it. You can't make this shit up!!!!

:nohead::nohead::nohead::nohead::nohead:

Note, that Dawkins is not the first atheist to be so flummoxed at
the origin of life (and so anti-God) that they turned to aliens.

Sir Francis Crick, who along with James Watson discovered the double-helix structure of DNA. He found it so complex that in his book, Life Itself, Crick proposed that the basic genetic structure of bacterial DNA was seeded from outer space.

You can't make this shit up.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Looney Darwinists can't even think straight.
 
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Richard Dawkins, whom the religious followers of the religion
of Darwinism worship, has this to say about Intelligent Design:

BEN STEIN: What do you think is the possibility that Intelligent Design might turn out to be the answer to some issues in genetics or in evolution.

DAWKINS: Well, it could come about in the following way. It could be that at some earlier time, somewhere in the universe, a civilization evolved, probably by some kind of Darwinian means, probably to a very high level of technology, and designed a form of life that they seeded onto perhaps this planet. Now, um, now that is a possibility, and an intriguing possibility. And I suppose it's possible that you might find evidence for that if you look at the details of biochemistry, molecular biology, you might find a signature of some sort of designer.

==============================================

BWHAHAHAAHHA. Aliens coming and blowing their sperm on earth, creating
life as we know it. You can't make this shit up!!!!

:nohead::nohead::nohead::nohead::nohead:

Note, that Dawkins is not the first atheist to be so flummoxed at
the origin of life (and so anti-God) that they turned to aliens.

Sir Francis Crick, who along with James Watson discovered the double-helix structure of DNA. He found it so complex that in his book, Life Itself, Crick proposed that the basic genetic structure of bacterial DNA was seeded from outer space.

You can't make this shit up.

:lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:

Looney Darwinists can't even think straight.


What's so funny about it? I don't believe in this hypothesis, but it is definitely a lot more likely than the fairy tale of divine Creation.
 

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Divine creation doesn't come across as bizzare to most people because it's been shoved down our throats for 2000 years.

Had it been another cult, say Scientology perhaps, that caught on back then we would all be Xenu worshiping morons who would find Christianity as bizzare as we find Scientology today.
 

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Ayuh, Preussen. The Book of Genesis has nothing on some of the more classic Grimms' Fairy Tales

Once Upon A Time, God took a rib from this guy Adam and he made a woman....and then they made a couple of babies...and then they all had incesteous sex except for the one boy who was evil so God made him a black guy and they all lived happily ever after....

Until the day that God got pissed and murdered every single one of them and their children with a giant Flood except for eight lucky winners of the Old Testament Golden Ticket who after the Flood started up with all the incesteous sex again and somewhere along the line one of them was designated as the new black guy and that's when they all lived happily ever after
 

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The Dems might want to look at their own?

Obama and Wright...He Never Complained Once

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I'm actually reading err listening to the Audiobook of the God Delusion right now. The part about Childhood indoctrination is very telling.
 

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Wish I would have had a chance to see that Reverend Wright live in action....I bet that was a hell of a rockin' scene more Sundays than not

Too late since the old goat has retired from active preachin'
 

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Great piece by Hitchens!
Even though I differ substantially with him on faith, the neocons and etc., he's spot on here:

This is what the Republican Party has done to us this year: It has placed within reach of the Oval Office a woman who is a religious fanatic and a proud, boastful ignoramus. Those who despise science and learning are not anti-elitist. They are morally and intellectually slothful people who are secretly envious of the educated and the cultured. And those who prate of spiritual warfare and demons are not just "people of faith" but theocratic bullies. On Nov. 4, anyone who cares for the Constitution has a clear duty to repudiate this wickedness and stupidity.


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Fuckin-A tweet there Chris...good stuff (even though your're hellbound, lol)
 
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Ayuh, Preussen. The Book of Genesis has nothing on some of the more classic Grimms' Fairy Tales

Once Upon A Time, God took a rib from this guy Adam and he made a woman....and then they made a couple of babies...and then they all had incesteous sex except for the one boy who was evil so God made him a black guy and they all lived happily ever after....

Until the day that God got pissed and murdered every single one of them and their children with a giant Flood except for eight lucky winners of the Old Testament Golden Ticket who after the Flood started up with all the incesteous sex again and somewhere along the line one of them was designated as the new black guy and that's when they all lived happily ever after

Ahhh the irony. Again, our resident kooky cult hopper making fun of
judeo-christian beliefs - when his cult has brain-washed countless
kool-aid drinkers into believing that there is no such thing as
sin, evil and death.

Can you say Jim Jones?
 
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I'm actually reading err listening to the Audiobook of the God Delusion right now. The part about Childhood indoctrination is very telling.


Richard Dawkins (prominent proponent of the religion of Darwinism):

"Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life...
life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA...
life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but
blind pitiless indifference."

Kingbill, do you believe the above quote? You know that that is
the bottom line when you accept the religion of Darwinism.
 

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Richard Dawkins (prominent proponent of the religion of Darwinism):

"Humans have always wondered about the meaning of life...
life has no higher purpose than to perpetuate the survival of DNA...
life has no design, no purpose, no evil and no good, nothing but
blind pitiless indifference."

Kingbill, do you believe the above quote? You know that that is
the bottom line when you accept the religion of Darwinism.

I was raised without a religion, so I've only become curious about it later in my life. I find it very difficult to accept any organized religion.

Had I been raised in a strict religious household, I'm sure much of the Christian or Muslim or Judaism or whichever was chosen for me would be believable.
 

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I was raised with out a religion, so I've only become curious about it later in my life. I find it very difficult to accept any organized religion.



Had I been raised in a strict religious household, I'm sure much of the Christian or Muslim or Judaism or whichever was chosen for me would be believable.


:nohead:


"I was over in Australia during easter, which was interesting. Interesting to note they celebrate Easter the same way we do; commemorating the death and resurrection of Jesus by telling our children a giant bunny rabbit, left chocolate eggs in the night.

Now, I wonder why we’re fucked up as a race, anybody? Anybody got any clues out there?

Where do you get this shit from you know? Why those two things you know? Why not ‘Goldfish left Lincoln Logs in your sock drawer’ you know? As long as we’re making shit up, go hog wild you know. At least a goldfish with a Lincoln Log on it's back goin' across your floor to your sock drawer has a miraculous connotation to it.

'Mummy, I woke today and there was a Lincoln Log in me sock drawer!'.


'That's the story of Jesus'.

Who comes up with this shit?! I’ve read the Bible. I can’t find the words ‘bunny’ or ‘chocolate’ anywhere in that fucking book".
 

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