The Gold standard should we go back on it?

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In 1900, the United States and most of Europe adopted a monetary system based on gold. The Gold Standard Act of 1900 made paper dollars convertible to 1.5 grams of gold. A troy ounce of gold (which is one-twelfth of a pound) was a little over $20. (1) In practice, most people used paper dollars because of their convenience, and didn’t often redeem them for gold.

If you take a close look at a U.S. dollar bill today, you’ll see the words “Federal Reserve Note” printed on it. You’ll also see the words “This note is legal tender for all debts public and private.”

When dollars were backed by gold, the words printed on bills were different. For example, in the case of a $50 bill they read, “This is to certify that there is on deposit in the Treasury of the United States of America $50 in gold coin payable to the bearer on demand.” These gold-backed bills were literally gold-backed: the backside of the bill was printed in yellow. For those of you who are curious to see what these gold-backed bills looked like, I’ve posted a link to an image at the end of the transcript for this episode at Quickanddirtytips.com.

FDR Makes Owing Gold Illegal
Well, during the widespread bank failures of the Great Depression, many people and institutions both in the U.S. and around the world actually did redeem their dollars for gold, which drained the Federal Reserve’s gold supply.In response to this crisis, in 1933 President Franklin D. Roosevelt made private ownership of gold illegal and confiscated gold by executive order. U.S. citizens had to turn in their gold and gold-backed paper money to the central banking system and were paid a little over 20 paper dollars for each troy ounce of gold, which had been the official gold price since 1900.

After the gold confiscation, the U.S. government reset the price of gold to $35 per troy ounce, which, in one fell swoop, devalued the dollar by more than 40%.

The Dollar Becomes the Preeminent World Reserve Currency
During World War II, delegates from 44 countries signed an agreement called Bretton Woods that fixed the dollar to gold and fixed other nations’ currencies to the dollar. Under this agreement, the dollar was defined as 1/35th of a troy ounce of gold and could be redeemed for gold at this rate by foreign governments and central banks. This agreement established the U.S. dollar as the world’s preeminent reserve currency, replacing the British pound sterling. But private ownership of gold by U.S. citizens remained illegal.

This gold standard survived with variations until 1971. It was at this time that France and Britain wanted to redeem their U.S. dollars for gold at the defined rate of $35 per troy ounce, which President Roosevelt had set all the way back in 1933. But the U.S. Treasury’s amount of physical gold was far less than the amount of dollars held by the central banks of other countries. France’s and Britain’s requests would have depleted U.S. gold reserves.

The End of the Gold Standard
With this run on gold in 1971, President Nixon brought an end to the gold standard by refusing to pay out any of the U.S.’s remaining gold in exchange for paper dollars. U.S. dollars could no longer be redeemed for gold by foreign governments and central banks. It wasn’t until 1975 that the law making it illegal for U.S. citizens to own gold was eliminated after existing for 42 years.

Since 1971, fiat money, rather than gold-backed money, has been the type of currency used in all major economies. Because a fiat currency is not backed by a resource that’s limited in supply, such as gold, there’s no physical constraint on the amount of money the Federal Reserve may print.

As the U.S. Federal Reserve prints more paper money and increases the money supply, the demand for gold tends to increase as more people and institutions buy it as a way to preserve the value of their money against inflation.

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I know this much ...

once Kiplingers ran that article in 2005 regarding Scarface Cheney with
25 million in the Euro Bond Market I knew damn well something was
going down ...

and down, down, down goes the Dollar !!
 

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What is to keep someone from just changing the value of a gold backed dollar like FDR did?
The world has never seen so much prosperity since we went to floating currency.
 

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What is to keep someone from just changing the value of a gold backed dollar like FDR did?
Correctomundo.

Plus in both 1933 and 1970 they refused to swap gold backed dollars for gold anyway !

So those "gold backed dollars" dropped 40% overnight around 1933.

Governments just make stuff up as they go along, even if you have physical gold.
 

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Correctomundo.

Plus in both 1933 and 1970 they refused to swap gold backed dollars for gold anyway !

So those "gold backed dollars" dropped 40% overnight around 1933.

Governments just make stuff up as they go along, even if you have physical gold.

So am I hearing you correctly that governments suck?
 

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IMO the REAL gold standard operated before governments really came along.

Once governments began to control their respective economic spheres of influence the gold standard was finito because governments simply cannot compete with or remain within the constraints imposed by gold.
 

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IMO the REAL gold standard operated before governments really came along.

Once governments began to control their respective economic spheres of influence the gold standard was finito because governments simply cannot compete with or remain within the constraints imposed by gold.

You mean they can't compete in free markets because free markets reward competence and efficiency. That's very close to "they suck"...not bad for a socialist.
 

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Governments are not unlike a socially driven corporate entity, with a reach spanning across the nation state.

The transcontinental railroad for example.

Gold restricts outputs because it's nothing more than a wealth store, resulting in slower strategic project advancement, if any at all, and is completely reliant on market profit.
It's fine for general trading.

Governments on the other hand can plan for in perpetuity projects that simply would not be practical under a gold system.
Financing and completing strategic infrastructure projects that may take decades to repay.

Government finance assumes that the nation will continue forever, and the nation can service its debt with its tax revenue.
It's a dynamic money system.

Gold produces zip, it has no debt servicing and revenue generating capability, it's just a store of wealth.
It's a static money system completely reliant on market profit to even have a remote hope of surviving, which makes serious decade spanning strategic projects impossible.
 

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Gold produces zip, it has no debt servicing and revenue generating capability, it's just a store of wealth.
It's a static money system.

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If you back a true gold standard you dont understand modern economics.

now as long as the production increase equals the inflation increase, there are no problems

many problems with the current system but its the best to date
 

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Milton Friedman explains role of gold in Great Depression.
 

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Governments on the other hand can plan for in perpetuity projects that simply would not be practical under a gold system.
Financing and completing strategic infrastructure projects that may take decades to repay.


Gold is just a store of wealth.
It's a static money system completely reliant on market profit to even have a remote hope of surviving, which makes serious decade spanning strategic projects impossible.

This is a logical fallacy, in the sense you are de facto assuming the governement's projects are benevolent to the people and thus the people should in turn pay forever the governament.

The governament always wants more, you give him one hand and it takes the whole arm. The bankers create the fiat currency out of thin air then collect interest, becoming wealthy beyond imagination while serfs like you gets endebted for the next two generations.

The proof is too in the history books.
Each time an empire switched to a fiat currency, it crumbled.

The US became the wealthiest nation on earth at the beginning of the twentieth century without a fiat currency; income tax was unknown.

Then the federal reserve was created, and it began a steep slope of debt, becoming the most endebted nation on earth today.
 

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