don duder you are out of touch man. believe what you want but as soon as you saw the gimmick pick of palin you knew mccain was desperate.
he got a bump in the polls because of the convention + the base showing up thanks to palin. but when mccain could not pick someone to secure independents (he wanted lieberman) the election was over with.
the economy did not go under over night. it is not like the "fundamentals" were strong and then all of the sudden they tanked.
honestly this election was over when bush got his second term.
he got a bump in the polls because of the convention + the base showing up thanks to palin. but when mccain could not pick someone to secure independents (he wanted lieberman) the election was over with.
the economy did not go under over night. it is not like the "fundamentals" were strong and then all of the sudden they tanked.
honestly this election was over when bush got his second term.
Uno, this is a direct and undeniable correlation between the recent economic news and the polls.
I don't think any pundit from any side sees it any other way, and a few of them are actually knowledgeable.
I don't think any pundit from any side sees it any other way, and a few of them are actually knowledgeable.
willie you are kidding yourself if you think "JOHN MCCAIN" was ever winning this election. at the end of the day the independents were going to side with the more talk/less fighting candidate and that was never going to be john mccain.
his own base disliked him which is why he had to pick palin... problem is the palin pick was moronic and it cost him anyone without an (R) next to their name.
he had a shot at the election with romney but the final nail in the coffin was not the economic crisis, it was palin. the economy was more the dirt on top of the coffin.
and don't talk about the pundits in this thread and then crucify them in another. the pundits were forced to make this a tight race... a blow out would never have kept people interested for the last year.
the pundits willie? really?
his own base disliked him which is why he had to pick palin... problem is the palin pick was moronic and it cost him anyone without an (R) next to their name.
he had a shot at the election with romney but the final nail in the coffin was not the economic crisis, it was palin. the economy was more the dirt on top of the coffin.
and don't talk about the pundits in this thread and then crucify them in another. the pundits were forced to make this a tight race... a blow out would never have kept people interested for the last year.
the pundits willie? really?
uno, just keep ignoring the absolute and direct and undeniable correlation of events.
You say it's Palin. Well, McCain surged to the lead after picking Palin and retained the lead until the economy news became a crisis.
Since then, Obama surges to the lead. Poll after poll points towards heightening economic concerns among voters and that those concerns are pushing people towards Obama.
Now you can stay with your "hunch" about Sarah Palin, I'll go with cold hard observations of the trends. You can try to belittle my references and the observations the pundits have made, I choose to belittle the fact that Katie Couric changed the day.
You say it's Palin. Well, McCain surged to the lead after picking Palin and retained the lead until the economy news became a crisis.
Since then, Obama surges to the lead. Poll after poll points towards heightening economic concerns among voters and that those concerns are pushing people towards Obama.
Now you can stay with your "hunch" about Sarah Palin, I'll go with cold hard observations of the trends. You can try to belittle my references and the observations the pundits have made, I choose to belittle the fact that Katie Couric changed the day.
seriously anyone who thought a mccain/palin ticket was getting into the white house is up in the night.
i agree that they got a solid bump out of the palin gimmick but when he was forced to pick her just to get back in the race it was over with.
you can use whatever you want to spin it but i am yet to hear an undecided say they were not turned off by the palin pick.
i understand she gave you hope willie and here i am telling you it was false hope. that is always difficult to stomach, but it is obvious.
all the economic crisis did was cement it a month before the vote.
and you talking about pundits is absurd. lets start talking about the pundits and see how long you last before your head explodes with their stupidity.
i agree that they got a solid bump out of the palin gimmick but when he was forced to pick her just to get back in the race it was over with.
you can use whatever you want to spin it but i am yet to hear an undecided say they were not turned off by the palin pick.
i understand she gave you hope willie and here i am telling you it was false hope. that is always difficult to stomach, but it is obvious.
all the economic crisis did was cement it a month before the vote.
and you talking about pundits is absurd. lets start talking about the pundits and see how long you last before your head explodes with their stupidity.
I'd say it's over except for the fact I'm not sure how racist this country still is. I know he's not "black" but he's perceived as that. We're talking about a country where a black person has only won a handful of top of the ticket statewide elections. For this reason I will hold reservations until I see it on election night.
Preachin to the choir bro. The Palin pick, his ignorant comments about the economy, the bail out bill "gimmick" were par for the course of moronic moves we already knew McCain would make. Sure he's a gambler. But right now he's on playing on tilt. He's at the point where when he's pushing his chips to the center, everybody knows he's got garbage and shoveling they're chips as well. They're just one desperate move after another. And the polls reflect it daily kinda like one of those uncontrolable spirals.
With the state the economy is in, and the steady and calm manner Obama's been handling this, the country is convinced who a strong and confident leader is. If McCain tries to go dirty and brings up Rev Wright, muslim accusations and go with extreme dirt, the voters will know he's getting desperate and see right through him. And the gap in the polls will widen.
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Mccain is not the type of man to go dirty and bring up rev wright. He is not that type of person to do that. Nor will he go and call obama a muslim, even thought technically he is. The polls will widen but not becuase mccain will get dirty. Polls will widen because on national tv mccain and palin both are not good speakers. Both looked bad in the debates and many independents are taking the side of Obama.
