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If BO is the dynamic messiah who will solve the worlds problems and unleash prosperity never seen before and McCain is an old putz, why is the election a virtual dead heat?
 

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The republicans enjoy death and destruction as long as it means less taxes. Seeya in hell gents.
 

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I got McCain 85/15.
 

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who says its a dead heat.

The media says it and all Americans believe the media. So it is correct, right?

Same thing happened in the 2004 elections, "Dead heat". Then "Kerry was the leader".

It amazes me how many base their political philosophy on CNN, MSN, Foxnews, and what "The Government" tells them.
 

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The media says it and all Americans believe the media. So it is correct, right?

Same thing happened in the 2004 elections, "Dead heat". Then "Kerry was the leader".

It amazes me how many base their political philosophy on CNN, MSN, Foxnews, and what "The Government" tells them.

and 2004 wasn't a dead heat?

I think we didn't know who won until the next day.
 

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I got McCain 85/15.

I don't like Obama at all, but if Americans eventually catch on to the fact one party owns 3/3 of the government, it will make a rookie Senator electable.

McCain continues the 3/3 power for one party, which is why even though I agree with his viewpoints more, I wouldn't vote for him.

So I will waste my vote on either Bob Barr or Ron Paul.

Ennie meenie miney mo...
 

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willie, its been proven time and time again you cant trust what the media says. mccain could be up 10, obama could be up 10, who knows. media is big biz looking out for itself. they will say things that may not be true to get ratings. ratings equal money from advertisers.

the only poll i would look for is a poll from a proven unbiased source.
 

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and 2004 wasn't a dead heat?

I think we didn't know who won until the next day.

Willie, polls had Kerry ahead or a dead heat in the final few months. No one thought Bush was going to take it again. Only those who voted for him the first time did.


Parties aside. The media spun it and it was incorrect in the end. Let me try and dig up a few articles if I can.
 

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Scientific polls are remarkably accurate in forecasting results, this can't be denied. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

Of course, they're or qualified based on "if the election were held today". The polling data can and will change between now and election day. But the polls on election eve will be accurate.
 

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Scientific polls are remarkably accurate in forecasting results, this can't be denied. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

Of course, they're or qualified based on "if the election were held today". The polling data can and will change between now and election day. But the polls on election eve will be accurate.

You base you choice on polls on election eve? I had my choice figured out 6 months ago. Anyone but the two everyone keeps talking about.

And that is why they always say +/- 5 percentage points, right?


And the easter bunny and tooth fairy are real too, right?
 

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willie, its been proven time and time again you cant trust what the media says. mccain could be up 10, obama could be up 10, who knows. media is big biz looking out for itself. they will say things that may not be true to get ratings. ratings equal money from advertisers.

the only poll i would look for is a poll from a proven unbiased source.


the biggest lies are half true.

give some examples of how the polls are misrepresented.
 

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And that is why they always say +/- 5 percentage points, right?


And the easter bunny and tooth fairy are real too, right?

In statistical sampling, there is a built in margin of error. Do you think a statistical sample yields an absolute result?

One of the silliest arguments I've seen in some time.

I know who I'm voting for too. What does that have to do with the type of cheese the moon is made of? Do you think everyone has already decided? Do you think nobody will change their mind?
 

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In statistical sampling, there is a built in margin of error. Do you think a statistical sample yields an absolute result?

Precisely. There is none. For instance...

I know a Republican delegate, became a delegate in order to vote for Ron Paul. Until the vote has been counted, it is not a lock.
 

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Precisely. There is none. For instance...

I know a Republican delegate, became a delegate in order to vote for Ron Paul. Until the vote has been counted, it is not a lock.


And yet they are proven to be remarkably accurate.
 

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The media loves drama...if the election looks close the parties spend more ad dollars flow in.

News for Profit
 

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Scientific polls are remarkably accurate in forecasting results, this can't be denied. There are very few exceptions to this rule.

Of course, they're or qualified based on "if the election were held today". The polling data can and will change between now and election day. But the polls on election eve will be accurate.


I thought even the exit polls were wrong in 2004? generally thought to be most accurate
 

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The media says it and all Americans believe the media. So it is correct, right?

Same thing happened in the 2004 elections, "Dead heat". Then "Kerry was the leader".

It amazes me how many base their political philosophy on CNN, MSN, Foxnews, and what "The Government" tells them.
It is against the best interest of the media to call this a runaway race, whether it is or not. If they called this election a foregone conclusion, the media outlets would lose the majority of their viewing audience who are tuning in just for these elections...I haven't seen an election yet that CNN, FOX or anybody else has called a "runaway, go on home there's nothing to see here"..Ain't gonna happen.
 

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I thought even the exit polls were wrong in 2004? generally thought to be most accurate

Exit polls were horribly wrong, and I don't see how they can be considered the most accurate. They pick a few polling places (not an entire state), they choose limited time slots (thus avoiding entire demographics) and they then try to extrapolate the voting patterns throughout an entire state with inherently flawed data.

Exit polls are considerably less reliable because of inherent weaknesses. It would take much more manpower and a lot more time to make them more reliable, especially in a close election. In a blow out, exit polls are more accurate. Did you notice all the caution used when interpreting exit polls during the primary season?
 

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