The 46 Million Uninsured Americans Deception

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I've had a few people bothered by the fact that I have no interest in the POTUS's Health Care Plan. When I tell them that I want reform but don't want his plan because it's not a good solution and that he is just trying to deceive America, they put the fingers in the ears and the blinders on. I submitted what I thought was the most comprehensive literature I have seen awhile back on this site, but admittedly doubt that most people to took the time to read the 190 pages like I did. Why anyone wouldn't take the time to educate themselves on this matter is beyond me since your life might depend on it.

One of the many deceptions out there is the myth of the 46 million uninsured Americans that is bandied about. I would like to propose right now that we all walk through this together so there is no confusion.

The first thing you need to do is go to the site of the census report used by Democrats to make this claim...

http://www.census.gov/prod/2008pubs/p60-235.pdf

Go to Table 6 (page 22 on the report or 30/84 if you want to put in the number on the top of the page)

In the 7th column to the right, under the 2007 uninsured category you will see a number of 45,657. This number is in 1000's, so this is where you get the 46 million Americans uninsured.

Next, go about halfway down the page to the row that has household income. If you total up the last two rows, you will find that households with income of $50,000+ total to approximately 18 million (over 9 million of this figure earn more than $75,000). These are people that could at lease purchase a catasthrophic insurance policy and choose not too (but for some reason we should all feel a responsibility for them). This same group paid $30 billion out of pocket for their own care.

Next, look a few rows up at Nativity. Notice on the row "not a citizen", that accounts for nearly 10 million. These are people that pay no taxes and are not Americans.

Add to this that as many as 14 million Americans of lower income are only uninsured because they won't fill out the forms for Medicaid, Medicare, or SCHIP (that includes 70% of uninsured children based on a 2008 study by Georgetown University Health Policy Institute).

If we just do the math for most of this (let's take the households making $75k+, Non-Americans, and people qualifying for government assistance if they will just fill out the damn form), we come up with about 13 million uninsured. Add in the households of $50k and now we're at about 6 million uninsured.

I think in fairness, most of us that are objective can see that there is quite a bit of deception going on here. Obviously this is nothing more than an attempt to create a sense of urgency by sensationalizing figures so we can rush through an agenda which is not practical for the country and will inevitably reduce the quality of health care and cost more (as based on the CBO report).
 

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i bet a lot of people who choose not to buy health insurance have the newest blackberry with all the ameneties....as do at least two of their kids...
 

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It has always amazed he the low opinion rat wangers have for their fellow americans.
 

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or they have the full compliment of hbo's courtesy of the local cable...or both....or they subscribe to that extra bit of broadband speed....or all 3...or they got the 50 inch plasma that was suddenly on sale for 900 bucks...after getting the tv they decided they better get a good surround system to go with it, and then get a blu ray so they can start a high def movie collection....so then they pay the cable company a little extra to get high def channels...or they splurged and bought a brand new riding mower to cut a yard that takes 10 minutes with a push mower....or an outdoor grill that'll feed 50 people that they'll use maybe twice a year and feed no more than 6 either time....or they smoke a $30 bag of weed every week...or they bought a fucking $1000 fucking poodle dog that doesn't do nothing but goddamn bark and then feed it goddam canine caviar while the rest of the family eats goddamn fried fucking bologna....or they took a gambling trip to tunica and called me to send them money to fucking get home, and when they get home they replace their fucking ceiling fans and i gotta be the asshole who asks when the fuck am i gonna get paid back...or a motherfucker gets a wireless laptop and printer like they're running a goddamn home fucking business and then bitch about the cost of a fucking set of colored ribbons....or drinks goddamn fucking vitamin water and tells me i'm gonna die because i use tapwater to make my spaghetti...goddammit....
 

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He wasnt wrong.....The 46 million are the number who wont get healthcare AFTER his plan goes through.....
 

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It has always amazed he the low opinion rat wangers have for their fellow americans.

I'm sorry the facts bring out this type of response from you. Should we go on with the deception/lie of the promise last week when he said if you like your doctor or your health plan, you can keep it? And yet on page 16 of the House's "health care for all Americans" bill, in the "Protecting The Choice To Keep Current Coverage," and "Limitation On New Enrollment" section, it states...Those who currently have private individual coverage won't be able to change it. Nor will those who leave a company to work for themselves be free to buy individual plans from private carriers. And if there is a change of any kind on your plan (i.e. something as basic as a co-payment), you must leave your plan and enroll in a government sponsored plan. I mean honestly! I made a comment yesterday on the dumbing down of America because people can't seem to think for themselves any more and have to rely on the press for their thoughts. He must really think Americans are as dumb as they come.





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