That onsides kick in>>>>

[coachH]

High school and the pros was illegal. The ball must touch the ground or touch a receiving player if the ball is kicked in the air. Receiving team must have the opportunity to catch the ball first. I cashed my Clemson moose ticket, but the onsides was illegal. I know for a fact its illegal in high school and the pros, and don't know why it wouldn't be illegal in college. Surprised I didn't hear anybody talking about the rule.
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[MattyMatt]

The ball started off a bounce, went 10 yards and is a live ball. It doesn't have to be touched in any football level that I'm aware after 10 yards.

 

[coachH]

The ball started off a bounce, went 10 yards and is a live ball. It doesn't have to be touched in any football level that I'm aware after 10 yards.[/QU OTE]

You are correct Matt, I couldn't tell if the kicker bounced the ball off the ground first. I thought he pooched kicked it. Kicking team cannot catch the ball first even after 10 yards. Must touch receiving team first or ball must hit the ground first.

 

[coachH]

wow, that ball was pooched, and Dabo just said they did the same thing against South Carolina and it was called back. Former Ole Miss star Cody Prewitt caught a kick in the air like that against my team in high school and it was called back. I bitched the rule, and the refs agreed and we got the ball back.

I know it doesn't matter, but im surprised nobody has talked about it.
Great Game. SEC Rules!!

 

[CHANCE]

I believe it goes something like this:

After 10 yards it is a free ball. If that were not the case, players receiving a kick off, that didn't want to bring a ball out of the endzone, would just let it bounce around free in the endzone without downing the ball. It is a free ball. I am sure you have seen onside kicks recovered by the kicking team that were never touched by any he receiving team players. And. I am sure you have heard many time, that the ball failed to travel 10 yards, so it is illegal touching by the kicking team.

What Dabo failed to mention was that the SC player called for a fair catch. Once he did that he cannot be interfered with and ball can NOT be touched by anyone else, but the 'fair catcher'. In the game tonight, if one or both of the Clemson players had signaled for a fair catch, and then the Bama player caught the ball, Bama would have been penalized 15 yards for interference, just as if it was a punt.

Any kicked ball can be 'fair caught', that is why every team pounds the ball into the ground when they attempt an onside kick ... One cannot call for a fair catch after the ball hits the ground.

 

[gskiman]

High School rule and NCAA rule are different.

In High School the ball must contact the ground before being recovered by the kicking kick unless it is first touched by the receiving team.

In NCAA the ball does not have to contact the ground before being recovered by the kicking team.
The kicking may catch the kick after it has gone 10 yards as long as they don't interfere with the receiving teams opportunity to catch the kick.
The receiving team can call for a fair catch if the kick has not yet touched the ground as well.
However, Clemson had no player in position to catch the kick, therefore there was no interference by the Alabama player when he caught the ball in the air on this particular kickoff.

 

[gskiman]

Any kicked ball can be 'fair caught', that is why every team pounds the ball into the ground when they attempt an onside kick ... One cannot call for a fair catch after the ball hits the ground.

The NCAA has updated this rule, so that a Fair Catch can be called for after the 1st bounce as well, but not after the 2nd bounce.

 

[coachH]

That makes sense Chance about the play tonight, BUT a kickoff that lands in the endzone doesn't have to be downed in the endzone, BUT a kickoff that lands in the field of play and rolls into the endzone must be downed because it is a live ball.

 

[coachH]

High School rule and NCAA rule are different.

In High School the ball must contact the ground before being recovered by the kicking kick unless it is first touched by the receiving team.

In NCAA the ball does not have to contact the ground before being recovered by the kicking team.
The kicking may catch the kick after it has gone 10 yards as long as they don't interfere with the receiving teams opportunity to catch the kick.
The receiving team can call for a fair catch if the kick has not yet touched the ground as well.
However, Clemson had no player in position to catch the kick, therefore there was no interference by the Alabama player when he caught the ball in the air on this particular kickoff.

Thank you, gskiman. You are so correct.

 

[Knightrofins]

I'm still sour about the North Carolina onside kick from the ACC championship game. Had the heels + the pts and that game lost me a nice chunk of change!!