Not if they are the doormat of the SEC. Kids want to win. You think kids will go to a school that is the laughing stock of the SEC? This will only make Texas's recruitment of kids in Texas easier.
I'm telling you that A&M is nailing the nails in their own coffin should they make this decision. It's so stupid on their part.
Personally don't think that would happen (Vandy has that doormat title glued down), but you as a Big 12 guy might know a little more about the program. I see them playing the role of a Arky, SC, & Miss programs. May not be a contender every year, but could have some good years. I do think if they could get a little mojo going in the SEC, they could recruit out of Texas well. There style of play fits the SEC well also. I would like to have them as well as FSU join. Clemson would fit very well also.
I guarantee that once the Super Conferences get set in place, the recruiting will become more and more diluted as the years go by, and spread among the other schools. You'll never see the same one or two teams dominating a conference year after year again like we've seen in the past. Texas A&M will have as good a chance as any down the line when they've been in the conference a few years, and after they hire themselves a better coach..
I think the new Big 12 Lite will look closer to this:Good point GS.
If you look at this whole thing from a super conference perspective, THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING. What it also changes is the allure of going to the SEC. Right now, A&M is hanging their hats on getting kids to A&M just because "we're in the SEC, look at us". Well, if the entire landscape changes in 4-5 years, and there's 4 to 5 superconferences, which we all agree is going to happen, then A&M is once again making the wrong decision. Why not COMPETE for championships in the Big XII for 4 more years, then see what happens and make a good decision then? Hell, the SEC, in 4 or 5 years when Superconferences appear, might not look all that appealing if you add these teams to a Superconference:
Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
TCU
Notre Dame
Arkansas
Missouri
Houston
Baylor
A&M would fit in pretty damned good in this conference wouldn't it?
Good point GS.
If you look at this whole thing from a super conference perspective, THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING. What it also changes is the allure of going to the SEC. Right now, A&M is hanging their hats on getting kids to A&M just because "we're in the SEC, look at us". Well, if the entire landscape changes in 4-5 years, and there's 4 to 5 superconferences, which we all agree is going to happen, then A&M is once again making the wrong decision. Why not COMPETE for championships in the Big XII for 4 more years, then see what happens and make a good decision then? Hell, the SEC, in 4 or 5 years when Superconferences appear, might not look all that appealing if you add these teams to a Superconference:
Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
TCU
Notre Dame
Arkansas
Missouri
Houston
Baylor
A&M would fit in pretty damned good in this conference wouldn't it?
I think the new Big 12 Lite will look closer to this:
Oklahoma
Texas
Abilene Christian
Baylor
Missouri
Okie St.
Texas St.
Kansas
Kansas St.
Iowa St.
Hell, the SEC, in 4 or 5 years when Superconferences appear, might not look all that appealing if you add these teams to a Superconference:
Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
TCU
Notre Dame
Arkansas
Missouri
Houston
Baylor
A&M would fit in pretty damned good in this conference wouldn't it?
Good point GS.
If you look at this whole thing from a super conference perspective, THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING. What it also changes is the allure of going to the SEC. Right now, A&M is hanging their hats on getting kids to A&M just because "we're in the SEC, look at us". Well, if the entire landscape changes in 4-5 years, and there's 4 to 5 superconferences, which we all agree is going to happen, then A&M is once again making the wrong decision. Why not COMPETE for championships in the Big XII for 4 more years, then see what happens and make a good decision then? Hell, the SEC, in 4 or 5 years when Superconferences appear, might not look all that appealing if you add these teams to a Superconference:
Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
TCU
Notre Dame
Arkansas
Missouri
Houston
Baylor
A&M would fit in pretty damned good in this conference wouldn't it?
Hasn't TCU committed to playing the the Big Least? Why would Notre Dame not join the BigTen if they were joining a conference? A&M will get more money from the SEC because the SEC will use the addition to their conference to renegotiate their current TV contracts with ESPN and CBS. Hence, it's one of the reasons they want to expand. It gives them the right to renegotiate the contract.Good point GS.
If you look at this whole thing from a super conference perspective, THAT CHANGES EVERYTHING. What it also changes is the allure of going to the SEC. Right now, A&M is hanging their hats on getting kids to A&M just because "we're in the SEC, look at us". Well, if the entire landscape changes in 4-5 years, and there's 4 to 5 superconferences, which we all agree is going to happen, then A&M is once again making the wrong decision. Why not COMPETE for championships in the Big XII for 4 more years, then see what happens and make a good decision then? Hell, the SEC, in 4 or 5 years when Superconferences appear, might not look all that appealing if you add these teams to a Superconference:
Oklahoma
Texas
Oklahoma State
Texas Tech
TCU
Notre Dame
Arkansas
Missouri
Houston
Baylor
A&M would fit in pretty damned good in this conference wouldn't it?
This is exactly what I was talking about. Expansion brings new schools recruiting into new territories, including your own. Like it or not, they're going to steal one or two of those 4 and 5 star players that would have given your team more depth and talent. And eventually those other teams will get stronger, and the big kid on the block starts becoming more cyclical, with more teams getting a chance to win the conference. I think the super conference idea will bring much more conference parity to college football. Which is a good thing in my opinion.The attraction of A&M to the SEC is good on both sides. What it also does is bring the SEC teams into Texas to recruit more athletes. I think it will be interesting to see how the likes of UT react when they are having to recruit the way SEC teams recruit...See Cam Newton and various others. In addition, Mack Brown won't be around forever. There was a rough patch of coaches when DKR left the program. David McWilliams, etc. I think the addition to the SEC helps Arkansas and LSU immediately for recruiting. LSU recruits So Texas very well. Always have. It will open up more of the state to them, and also open up the New Orleans/Baton Rouge area to A&M
I've written here before regarding your posts, but they just wreak of hatred for A&M regardless of the issue. That's all well and good, I'm in no way bothered or offended by that, but your hatred has blinded you and prevents you from making sound arguements. A&M appears to be moving on while the opportunity best presents itself, to the best football conference in the country.
While the LHN and its surrounding terms are certainly a factor, it's much bigger than that. The fact you want to make it all about UT and continue post after post to degrade A&M at every turn is quite narrow minded and petty. I don't expect you to wish us well and I realize you need an avenue to vent, but this is not a recruiting matter. It's not a "big/little brother" matter as hard as you will it to be.
It has to do with a University moving on to greener pastures, and entire athletic dept. moving on. Sure, we'll take our lumps early on in football. Naive not to think so despite the fact the program is on the rise. Other programs will compete well right away. This is a long term decision, in the best financial interest of the University. Season ticket sales will increase, donations will increase, and an overall energized fan base that gets to road trip to Oxford, Baton Rouge, Athens, Tuscaloosa, Auburn, etc. won't miss Aimes, Manhatten, Lawrence...