Guys...This comes from the Sooner website. You can believe this or not. But I can tell you from following this poster for years that he has been very reliable with his info. If it's true, I DON'T like it. Here's what he says:
I can't share everything I've been told, but here is a part of it
Yes, tamu is leaving on the 22nd as their BOR meeting is the 20th or so. Lot's of reasons and you will not see them play ut for a long time in any sport.
SEC is talking to FSU as was reported and also a few others including my brother's school Clemson. There are 4 others they are considering at the moment, but that is a fluid situation.
The Pac 12 would take OU and OSU and TT, but only if UT comes along. That still hasn't changed.
OU can't get an invite to the Big 10 as they want nothing to do with OSU, who is holding us back for the SEC right now too.
OU will most probably end up staying in a watered down conference who will add another texas team (you can speculate, but I've heard two different schools from two different cities mentioned by a few folks I speak with daily). If they were to expand, some of the names mentioned are a service academy, BYU along with a texas school and possibly a FL school.
I know that the BE is trying like heck to position themselves, but I don't see it happening. The ACC is about to be ravaged so their top schools will be looking for a conference. Will they end up merging with the Big 12? Would there be a working agreement and championship games between the Big 12 (with 8-10 teams) and the ACC or even a BE? Lot's of info from lot's of folks right now and it's all nuts, but tamu was gone as soon as ut offered up their network. That's when Byrne lost his ability to keep the voting members at bay like he did last year. Their debt is too big and they have a donor who is ponying up money to pay for their debt, upgrades and cost to move to the SEC quickly.
Flame if you want, but I trust where this is coming from as it's not just one person.
OU may surprise, but it may not happen right away or even this year.
I can't share everything I've been told, but here is a part of it
Yes, tamu is leaving on the 22nd as their BOR meeting is the 20th or so. Lot's of reasons and you will not see them play ut for a long time in any sport.
SEC is talking to FSU as was reported and also a few others including my brother's school Clemson. There are 4 others they are considering at the moment, but that is a fluid situation.
The Pac 12 would take OU and OSU and TT, but only if UT comes along. That still hasn't changed.
OU can't get an invite to the Big 10 as they want nothing to do with OSU, who is holding us back for the SEC right now too.
OU will most probably end up staying in a watered down conference who will add another texas team (you can speculate, but I've heard two different schools from two different cities mentioned by a few folks I speak with daily). If they were to expand, some of the names mentioned are a service academy, BYU along with a texas school and possibly a FL school.
I know that the BE is trying like heck to position themselves, but I don't see it happening. The ACC is about to be ravaged so their top schools will be looking for a conference. Will they end up merging with the Big 12? Would there be a working agreement and championship games between the Big 12 (with 8-10 teams) and the ACC or even a BE? Lot's of info from lot's of folks right now and it's all nuts, but tamu was gone as soon as ut offered up their network. That's when Byrne lost his ability to keep the voting members at bay like he did last year. Their debt is too big and they have a donor who is ponying up money to pay for their debt, upgrades and cost to move to the SEC quickly.
Flame if you want, but I trust where this is coming from as it's not just one person.
OU may surprise, but it may not happen right away or even this year.
I'm pretty sure the PAC12 takes OU and OSU and a combination of a couple others. I don't think Tech was included as they were only coming along if A*M had taken the offer. Ironically, the best thing for OSU is Boone Picken and his $$$. As I mentioned, I originally had heard that both OK schools along with Mizzou and KU. A&M was offered and had they accepted, Tech would be invited as well to make it the OK schools, A&M and Tech. Sounds like it's back to the plan B minus Ags. As I mentioned, somethings going on because I can't reach the person who originally told me about the changes
JMO but I think this is the end of the Big12 when A&M goes to the SEC. I can't see them adding the likes of Houston, Memphis, or SMU.. It would be a joke. I hear FSU is now strongly considering the SEC. It looks like the Super Conferences idea is gaining momentum. I really don't see how 16 team conferences are going to work for football unless practically all out of conference games are eliminated. This could lead to the superconferences breaking away from the NCAA.
This should have all happened last year. I believe I said then that this backdoor deal that Beebe and ESPN (and UT) put together could not be good. So the additional revenue was the fact that the conference was getting to split the Nebraska/Colorado buyout money. ESPN did not negotiate the contract up, the teams were going to get larger split due to 2 fewer teams. What ESPN did negotiate was to stand up TLN for UT as payoff for the horns committing to the conference (for awhile). What Beebe did was mislead the rest of the conference, the same members he was supposed to represent and protect. This guy will never, ever be a commissioner in another conference. What a stooge. Teams like OU/OSU and Tech could have gone to the PAC10 a year ago instead of having to deal with this nonsense now. Why he received a pay raise is beyond me, unless it was for orchestrating the ESPN deal with TLN. I think he's actually worse that Tom Hansen. I wonder how he sleeps at night?
I wonder what teams like Iowa St and Kansas St are thinking now. I hope they got their money up front, otherwise, they may never collect on those promises. Maybe they can become sparring partners for TLN.
GS, I cant believe that there isnt a conference that is willing to take OU. But I will say that I heard the same thing. I will have to laugh if the big12 does stay around and goes for UH, SMU and Memphis. It seems that the Big12 would quickly turn into the MWC, with two king of the hills. But what happens down the line? Does no one think that the recruiting wouldnt drop off? Instead of taking recruits from Nebraska, Colorado, and A&M... You are taking them from UH, SMU, and Memphis? Sorry, but regardless of the winning traditions, I dont see kids wanting to go to play in that kind of conference. While I have continually heard there is no recruiting advantage for A&M moving to the SEC, just this past week we found it a different story. A kid all ready to go to A&M only to pick Tennessee because he wanted to play in the SEC. Oklahoma has to find a way out.
I believe those who take that stance are a little naive. A&M is a solid program but is looked past due to Texas & OU. If they were to join the SEC, then that would be a huge bargaining chip for recruits from Texas and surrounding states due to the fact of getting to play in the SEC. As long as the SEC stays a dominate conference, that would be a huge incentive for those upcoming players....JMO.
The Big XII will add TCU in A&M's spot. All other 9 Big XII teams are solidly committed to the Big XII, so adding TCU (they'll say yes in about 12 or 13 seconds to the invite) will quell all speculation for another few years.
A&M is making the biggest mistake of their lives. All they need to do is look at Arkansas choice to go to the SEC.
This is a little brother move. Little bro is tired of all the attention big bro has been getting, and is making a desperate move to gain some attention. They will get their teeth kicked in for years and years to come.
And whoever said A&M and Texas won't continue to play- you couldn't be more wrong. A&M is trying to confirm that they can continue the Thanksgiving Night game before committing to the SEC. Texas hasn't said yes yet.
And don't throw this away just yet either; A&M getting offered their own network from ESPN to stay in the Big XII.
A&M is making the biggest mistake of their lives. All they need to do is look at Arkansas choice to go to the SEC.
This is a little brother move. Little bro is tired of all the attention big bro has been getting, and is making a desperate move to gain some attention. They will get their teeth kicked in for years and years to come.
And whoever said A&M and Texas won't continue to play- you couldn't be more wrong. A&M is trying to confirm that they can continue the Thanksgiving Night game before committing to the SEC. Texas hasn't said yes yet.
And don't throw this away just yet either; A&M getting offered their own network from ESPN to stay in the Big XII.
Not if they are the doormat of the SEC. Kids want to win. You think kids will go to a school that is the laughing stock of the SEC? This will only make Texas's recruitment of kids in Texas easier.
I'm telling you that A&M is nailing the nails in their own coffin should they make this decision. It's so stupid on their part.
