Terrorist death watch

[BASEHEAD]

http://northshorejournal.org/index.php/terrorist-death-watch/

MSM tells us all of the Marines/soldiers deaths,IA/IP deaths and of course the "civilian" deaths........never the bad guys tho.Not even a stab in the dark.

 

[TotalRecall]

Useless gung-ho geek statistics. Like counting grains of sand. Weve got soldiers dying for nothing and youre flag waving. "Look how many of them we are killing!" as if thats some kind of consolation. You think theres a number that balances out the U.S. dead? Only a fool would take solace in that. Let me know when you get to a billion. Until then trust me, you are always giong to be outnumbered in youre hapless attempt to conquer the Middle East with only 170,000 guys. You have as much chance in the long run as the three hundred Spartans against thousands of Persians.

Bring out the nukes if you mean business or shut up...

 

[eek.]

...and how do you filter out the guys who shoot at us because we won't leave their country...?

There's a pretty high probability that I would be a "terrorist" until you guys got the fuck out of my country and then my people could FINALLY sort out our own problems for ourselves.

I sure as shit wouldn't go following you back to America either, I'd have enough problems as it is

 

[Willie99]

...and how do you filter out the guys who shoot at us because we won't leave their country...?

There's a pretty high probability that I would be a "terrorist" until you guys got the fuck out of my country and then my people could FINALLY sort out our own problems for ourselves.

I sure as shit wouldn't go following you back to America either, I'd have enough problems as it is

eek, if they were just shooting at US soldiers you might have a point.

But they are killing Iraqis who are trying to form an Iraqi government and provide for Iraq's own security.

The terrorists don't want a democracy. Freedom might actually lead to an educated and optimistic nation of people which diminish their hunting grounds.

The likes of Iran & Syria don't want a democracy either. The desire for freedom might actually permeate into their countries, putting their tyrannic regimes at risk. (Of course, this would be really really bad for the likes of Al-Q, OBL, Hezbollah and Hamas as well).

So you see, our enemies cannot allow a democratic foothold in their back yard. It's not about an occupation, those are just cheap words used to play us through our media .

 

[eek.]

But they are killing Iraqis who are trying to form an Iraqi
government and provide for Iraq's own security.

Ya mean like Americans who fought on the British side
during the War of Independence?

 

[Willie99]

Ya mean like Americans who fought on the British side
during the War of Independence?

I think those blokes were still supporting "the King". Now after the Red Coats quit, if people were still killing police officers & politicians in the name of Allah, then I might agree with you. :thumbsup:

Speaking of Kings, when will the Brits ever have another one?

 

[BASEHEAD]

Unfortunately attrition rates matter in a war where propaganda is a key ingredient,which this is clearly.The fact is, just as in VN, the US is simply winning the war in the trenches but losing it in the newspapers.Enemy is being dominated on all fronts.

Someones keeping track Joe....in fact the military announces all of the bad guys deaths ,you just need to do the math for yourself.

If Im not mistaken the Lt says this was the main pet peeve of the military he spoke with,they complained of this very thing,the unwillingness of the American media to recognize the disproportionate rate of attrition.Why is that do you suppose?

 

[Jointpleasure]

Base,

I know for a fact that the US military has been stepping things up lately, and in a bigtime way. It really opened my eyes when I was told how much area that three or four two ton bombs can destroy and we ain't blowing up aspirin factories either. I would think around a thousand evil doers a day, give or take. MSM remains silent, go figure.

 

[Marco]

Unfortunately attrition rates matter in a war where propaganda is a key ingredient,which this is clearly.The fact is, just as in VN, the US is simply winning the war in the trenches but losing it in the newspapers.Enemy is being dominated on all fronts.

Someones keeping track Joe....in fact the military announces all of the bad guys deaths ,you just need to do the math for yourself.

If Im not mistaken the Lt says this was the main pet peeve of the military he spoke with,they complained of this very thing,the unwillingness of the American media to recognize the disproportionate rate of attrition.Why is that do you suppose?

Stating that the war is being won in the trenches while losing it in the newspapers is quite misleading in that just like VN, regardless what the newspapers printed, the war strategy was flawed, jungle warfare was NOT to the advantage of the US forces, and VN simply could not have been won choosing a war of attrition fought in the jungles. We left after 10 years of war, fighting a war that could have went on for decades more had we stuck to that same losing strategy and stubbornly stayed just to put off admitting defeat.

Attrition and the numbers on paper mean little if the fighting force keeps replenishing thier losses and dragging out the fight for decades.

The only real differences between VN and this bullshit going on in the middle east is oil, religion, and trading jungle for urban and sand. There's enough diehard religious lunatics in the middle east to guarantee all the war we want to fight over there for as long as we choose to be there and foolishly try to convert Muslims into democracy loving people.

So the newspapers can print whatever they want, the outcome in the middle east won't change because the gameplan is seriously flawed and has been from the start. When we come back home to lick our wounds of defeat the middle east will still be a shithole.

Call it doom and gloom or negativity.....whatever you want to call it.....the US bit off more than it can chew, went in blind from the gate, the only thing left is how much time passes before smarter people pull the plug on this insanity.

 

[Lt.Dan]

Unfortunately attrition rates matter in a war where propaganda is a key ingredient,which this is clearly.The fact is, just as in VN, the US is simply winning the war in the trenches but losing it in the newspapers.Enemy is being dominated on all fronts.

Someones keeping track Joe....in fact the military announces all of the bad guys deaths ,you just need to do the math for yourself.

If Im not mistaken the Lt says this was the main pet peeve of the military he spoke with,they complained of this very thing,the unwillingness of the American media to recognize the disproportionate rate of attrition.Why is that do you suppose?

Base,

General Spiese told me personally that the Marines were kicking ass and taking names in Iraq.

SF,

Lt. Dan

 

[Lt.Dan]

Stating that the war is being won in the trenches while losing it in the newspapers is quite misleading in that just like VN, regardless what the newspapers printed, the war strategy was flawed, jungle warfare was NOT to the advantage of the US forces, and VN simply could not have been won choosing a war of attrition fought in the jungles. We left after 10 years of war, fighting a war that could have went on for decades more had we stuck to that same losing strategy and stubbornly stayed just to put off admitting defeat.

Attrition and the numbers on paper mean little if the fighting force keeps replenishing thier losses and dragging out the fight for decades.

The only real differences between VN and this bullshit going on in the middle east is oil, religion, and trading jungle for urban and sand. There's enough diehard religious lunatics in the middle east to guarantee all the war we want to fight over there for as long as we choose to be there and foolishly try to convert Muslims into democracy loving people.

So the newspapers can print whatever they want, the outcome in the middle east won't change because the gameplan is seriously flawed and has been from the start. When we come back home to lick our wounds of defeat the middle east will still be a shithole.

Call it doom and gloom or negativity.....whatever you want to call it.....the US bit off more than it can chew, went in blind from the gate, the only thing left is how much time passes before smarter people pull the plug on this insanity.

There were no American ground troops fighting in the RVN after 1973. The ARVN's couldn't or wouldn't fend off the NVA and Saigon fell in 1975. The same thing will happen in Iraq when the Iraqi's take over without US intervention.

SF,

Lt. Dan