Tell me why, in your opinion, USA has an obligation to be The Dumping Ground for the World's Problems

[ML Dog]

Is it because our own ancestors were Immigrants? That removes any Option on the part of The American People to not be the dumping ground for the World's Problems?

Is it bcuz of our religious books? Stuff that is written in those?

Is it bcuz we are genuinely naive enough to believe that Mass Immigration of people who follow an Ideology that says if you don't worship the same god as they do you must be enslaved or die is going to somehow magically work out "OK"?

Does stuff Our Founding Fathers wrote Obligate us to be the dumping ground of the world's problems?

What is at the root of this Obligation of USA? Where does it stem from?

 

[HacheMan]

We should have no obligation period & need to start handling the immigration & Muslim issues the exact same way Japan & China do (and other countries are starting).

They dont put up with any BS.

Time to stop being Mr nice guy.

Start using treason as a way to begin making examples out of all these trouble-makers

 

[ML Dog]

We should have no obligation period & need to start handling the immigration & Muslim issues the exact same way Japan & China do (and other countries are starting).

They dont put up with any BS.

Time to stop being Mr nice guy.

Start using treason as a way to begin making examples out of all these trouble-makers

Trump has come out the gate Hard, scaring the hell outta people and pissing more people off than maybe any one single man has accomplished pissing off within such a short period of time.

calculating the number of people completely pissed off at Donald Trump right now, it would have to be somewhere around 716,000,000 or Seven Hundred and Sixteen Million people.

The entire country of Mexico is pissed off at him, Many of the Muslims on Earth are mad at Trump (and there are almost 2 Billion Muslims on Earth), Liberals all over the world are mad at him along with many Women. Feminists are across the board pissed, 100% of Feminists mad at him and yesterday he yelled at the President of Australia, told him "Koala Bears are a very Low Energy Animal" and that he did not think "Crocodile Dundee" was a very good movie

then slammed the phone down on him.

Pissing circa 700 Million people off in just 10 days or so. Phenomenal Accomplishment.

 

[Enfuego]

People around the world hate us but all want to be us.

A shit ton of people view us as arrogant assholes so we bring it upon ourselves. Constantly sticking our nose in shit where it doesn't belong.

 

[slapshot]

No reason at all

Just look what the immigrants did to the Indians

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Is it because our own ancestors were Immigrants? That removes any Option on the part of The American People to not be the dumping ground for the World's Problems?

Is it bcuz of our religious books? Stuff that is written in those?

Is it bcuz we are genuinely naive enough to believe that Mass Immigration of people who follow an Ideology that says if you don't worship the same god as they do you must be enslaved or die is going to somehow magically work out "OK"?

Does stuff Our Founding Fathers wrote Obligate us to be the dumping ground of the world's problems?

What is at the root of this Obligation of USA? Where does it stem from?

It's called brainwashing. Our politicians and the media have
convinced us it's "who we are." I'm convinced we're just
suckers for believing them.

 

[ML Dog]

No reason at all

Just look what the immigrants did to the Indians

BOOM. I think what you said will go right over some guy's heads tho

We didn't do it tho. My People bailed where they lived bcuz they ran out of Potatoes there.

Apparently my ancestors really really liked Potatoes. Which I understand, Potatoes are good and can be cooked many different ways.

Not sure I personally would go thru the hassle of picking up and leaving a place, sailing on rickety ass boats in 1849 across freezing ass waters thru the pitch black of icy cold nights just because I couldn't get a plate of French Fries though.

Main Man in Our Krewe that led to me being here accomplished that by having sex with a Cherokee Indian girl so my own people wound up getting chased all over the place by those Immigrants you describe.

That Cherokee Girl, her people had to walk The Cherokee Trail of Tears so my own people have been the receivers of The Wrath you talk about, rather than Givers.

 

[ML Dog]

People around the world hate us but all want to be us.

Thats how I feel about Justin Bieber.

 

[Betallsports]

It's the Land of the FREE

and it's a whole other story now a days from when our Grandparents came here ...

Not that I'm that Old, but stories from them were told that if you even had Pink-Eye they wouldn't let you into the U.S
they were worried that you would bring something in, so they didn't let you in...

I've always had a problem with Helping other Countries over helping our Own.
They send Billions of $$$ to help others. When we have a Huge Homeless problem here and our Vets too.
Let's spend Billions here ! in the U.S

 

[thecentaur]

Seems like USA has tried to be Rome without the tributes and citizenship laws.

 

[ML Dog]

It's the Land of the FREE

and it's a whole other story now a days from when our Grandparents came here ...

Not that I'm that Old, but stories from them were told that if you even had Pink-Eye they wouldn't let you into the U.S
they were worried that you would bring something in, so they didn't let you in...

I've always had a problem with Helping other Countries over helping our Own.
They send Billions of $$$ to help others. When we have a Huge Homeless problem here and our Vets too.
Let's spend Billions here ! in the U.S

Great Post.

Cuz Two Things:

In addition to your point about how we should Help Our Vets as priority #1 and certainly way way WAY the bloody hell above sending $221 Million to Terrorist Palestine.

1.) Totally Different, this than when Our Ancestors migrated. This is an Ideology that binds people to enslaving or killing those who do not agree to bow down and worship that god. To not do that, for that god is to betray that god. Its true that not all Muslims want to adhere to that part of Islam. And Millions of Muslims do not want to have to follow other Brutal aspects of Islam regarding Women. Many Muslims do NOT folllow these parts of the Ideology. We do have to find a way to get some of those types of people to Freedom, and especially younger ones those under 18 cuz their Generation will be much much less amenable to remaining 624 A.D. Primitive Savages.

Muslim Young, given the chance to have Freedom and Western-style lifestyles, thats what they want.

The Problem lies in how to know which ones those are.

Islam has within it a thing called "Taquiyya" might be "Taqiyya" I have trouble spelling their words right

From Mohammed Taquiyya is encouragement to Muslims to Lie & Represent themselves as wanting Western Life Style and being Tolerant, Non-Radical Muslim so as to get enough Muslims into a place to take over and institute Sharia Law.

Trojan Horse-type deal.

2.) Yes, Harsh as Hell: Ellis Island to get admitted thru do to fears of Infectious Diseases. There are many many sad stories. Best IMO one does not research these as it is -EV to heap misery un-necessarily upon one's self. We have plenty enough already.

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[metro]

This country is divided into two groups , those that contribute to social programs (ebt cards, free healthcare , public housing or eection 8 vouchers and maybe monthly welfare cash stipend)..and those that are recipients of these programs.

Most of the people that pay taxes into these programs donot know anyone that are on these programs personally and so thats where the resentment festers and creates animosity between both groups.. a step in the right direction would be to allow each tax paying family to designate one person they choose , could be family or friend, to be there designated recipient under them.. by cutting back on funding foreign social programs the money should be repurposed here at home, beefed up vertically for those already grandfathered in but who need more and the horizontally for those contributing whete they can protect a family member or friend they choose to recieve the same benefit package... in my opinion this would be massive for bringing people together unfortunately the powers that be would rather divide us.

 

[metro]

Imagine paying taxes for years and years and you donot know anyone personally that is benefitting from these programs, by protecting a family member or designating one to recieve welfare , public housing etc it should put an end to the resentment about those on welfare that is peaking with the working class and bridge the chasm that is dividing us currently.. in my opinion that is the start of turning things around for the better. I wish i had a better platform to present this or some type of other strategy to build this around because its something ive been saying for awhile and people ive spoken to have said they will gladly accept an ebt card.

 

[HacheMan]

This country is divided into two groups , those that contribute to social programs (ebt cards, free healthcare , public housing or eection 8 vouchers and maybe monthly welfare cash stipend)..and those that are recipients of these programs.

You are correct & let me give you an example as i did in another recent thread.

Around where i live, i can drive you down the street & point out the illegals walking.

Theres a huge difference in appearance between Americans & illegals & very easy to differentiate.

Anyhow, these illegals come here as families.

But of course there are no records on file of them here in the states.

So the female goes to apply for cash & food assistance, claiming to be a single mother of her kids.

Meanwhile, the husband/father is working, usually for cash.

So you will then see these same families in the grocery stores with 2 buggies full of food, that they proceed to pay for with an ebt card (free).

Then you see them outside loading all of the groceries into their nice 2016-17 trucks or suv's that that they can easily afford with the cash money that he makes.

It's such BS & nonsense but it's a common known thing by everyone, or at least everyone in this area...

 

[michael777]

So true,the Lib's like V who want them here should pay for them,don't by force take my tax money to pay for them when i am against this nonsense

 

[Betallsports]

You are correct & let me give you an example as i did in another recent thread.

Around where i live, i can drive you down the street & point out the illegals walking.

Theres a huge difference in appearance between Americans & illegals & very easy to differentiate.

Anyhow, these illegals come here as families.

But of course there are no records on file of them here in the states.

So the female goes to apply for cash & food assistance, claiming to be a single mother of her kids.

Meanwhile, the husband/father is working, usually for cash.

So you will then see these same families in the grocery stores with 2 buggies full of food, that they proceed to pay for with an ebt card (free).

Then you see them outside loading all of the groceries into their nice 2016-17 trucks or suv's that that they can easily afford with the cash money that he makes.

It's such BS & nonsense but it's a common known thing by everyone, or at least everyone in this area...

Don't worry they do it in NY as well.
Always see people paying with EBT cards and loading the bags into their Benz

 

[metro]

True hache.. under my proposal every household that pays taxes can "protect " a family member or friend , like a franchise tag in the nfl if you will, except this would be better because itd behelping you not hurting you.. maybe hache you could assign a grown child of your own for example maybe you decline the public housing for safety reasons but accept the free health care and ebt card. It would certainly soften the blow for you when you see these people you describe loading up the back of their suv with groceries.. at least someone you know is able to participate and you would hesitate to label that person u see using ebt card with a michael kors purse and iphone, it could be your bosses daughter for all you know or some hotshot money mangers nanny.

 

[HacheMan]

Don't worry they do it in NY as well.
Always see people paying with EBT cards and loading the bags into their Benz

We all need to take the big dogs in Washington for a ride because apparently they never get out in the real world to see what the hell is really going on & how they get played for fools regularly by these ppl...

 

[thecentaur]

This country is divided into two groups , those that contribute to social programs (ebt cards, free healthcare , public housing or eection 8 vouchers and maybe monthly welfare cash stipend)..and those that are recipients of these programs.

Most of the people that pay taxes into these programs donot know anyone that are on these programs personally and so thats where the resentment festers and creates animosity between both groups.. a step in the right direction would be to allow each tax paying family to designate one person they choose , could be family or friend, to be there designated recipient under them.. by cutting back on funding foreign social programs the money should be repurposed here at home, beefed up vertically for those already grandfathered in but who need more and the horizontally for those contributing whete they can protect a family member or friend they choose to recieve the same benefit package... in my opinion this would be massive for bringing people together unfortunately the powers that be would rather divide us.

The idea is nice but impractical

Families tend to be around the same income levels

Unless NBA players and Carlos Slim have really really big families

 

[bobbyjones2]

I work without of illegal aliens. They have the see a fool, use a fool mentality. Got nothing against them personally but how the f can you be in a country for 7 years and still make no attempt to learn the language? Even when offered free class, no one signed up for it.