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If this has already been posted, my apologies. If it hasn't, I can't believe none of us have read this already ... effectively, speaking publicly against the gov't, for their employees, is no longer protected by the Constitution.

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Supreme Court Rules against Government Whistleblowers

May 30, 2006

Garcetti v. Ceballos Ruling Undermines Public Employees’ First Amendment Rights

Washington, DC – Today, the Supreme Court severely limited the rights of government employee whistleblowers to protect the public interest. Through its ruling in Garcetti v. Ceballos, the Court holds that government employees’ job-related speech is not protected by the first amendment, a significant departure from prior law.

“The Supreme Court's ruling strikes a shameful blow against free speech rights and a vigorous democracy – public employees' ability to serve as guardians of good government are severely restricted by this opinion,” stated Joanne Royce, GAP General Counsel. “A deeply divided, but majority court, today upheld the values of “employer control” over the traditional American values of freedom and protection of public discourse and professional dissent. This ruling will have a serious chilling effect on the willingness of public employees to risk their livelihood to expose government fraud and waste. Our democratic traditions and the American taxpayer are sacrificed to the alter of “employer control.”

GAP’s amicus curie brief to the Court regarding the case, written by Royce and GAP Legal Director Tom Devine, can be found at: http://www.whistleblower.org/doc/Ceballos amicus GAP NELA ATLA.pdf)

The case before the court was that of Richard Ceballos, a deputy district attorney in Los Angeles County, California who learned that a deputy sheriff lied to obtain a search warrant, Ceballos advised his superiors of the wrongdoing, and recommended that the county drop its case. His recommendation was ignored, and his superiors demanded that he continue with the prosecution. Ceballos then informed the defense of his findings, as required by law. Despite the fact that he had acted in a lawful fashion, Ceballos was removed from the case, demoted, and transferred to a different office. Ceballos’ ordeal is a shining example of how ethical government workers are supposed to act – he exposed misconduct that was in gross violation of the underpinnings of the American justice system. It is a tragedy that the Supreme Court allowed the government to penalize such principled behavior.

The ramifications of the Supreme Court’s decision are devastating to public employees who choose to speak out in the interest of the American people. By restricting the speech of whistleblowers, the Supreme Court has made government more susceptible to fraud and corruption. Public employee truth-tellers are essential to the safety and welfare of our country – they expose corruption, fraud, and national security shortcomings. The muzzling of such vital contributors to the nation’s well-being will certainly have grave consequences. Without whistleblowers, government will no longer be compelled to act in an accountable and ethical fashion.

Tom Devine, GAP Legal Director, commented “This decision is outrageous. Canceling the doctrine of “duty speech” means that government employees only have an on-the-job right to be “yes people,” parroting false information and enabling illegality. The Court alludes to the Whistleblower Protection Act, but it has been weakened by a series of limiting court decisions. House and Senate Leaders must schedule a vote on legislation to strengthen the Whistleblower Protection Act, so that government employees are not punished for speaking in the public interest. This bill has been unanimously approved by Congressional committees for the last two Congresses, but the leadership has refused to schedule an up-or-down vote. It is time for Congress to act. The decision also puts government workers in a Catch 22. Increasingly the bureaucracy has imposed a mandatory “duty to disclose” on its employees. If they stumble across misconduct, they have no choice but to report it or be guilty for silence. The law requires them to be involuntary whistleblowers, or they are guilty of wrongdoing. That was the setting in this dispute. Now government employees obey this duty at their own risk. They’re damned if they remain silent, and defenseless if they bear witness."

GAP has been an outspoken advocate of Ceballos’ cause, because we see it as a vital stop-gap in the protection of employees who speak out, to protect the public interest, about wrong-doing. In this case, Ceballos’ speech protects the integrity of the criminal investigation process, and that is vital. (See our October 2005 New York Times Op-Ed by GAP Communications Director Dylan Blaylock and FBI whistleblower Coleen Rowley, available at http://www.whistleblower.org/content/press_detail.cfm?press_id=322).


http://www.whistleblower.org/content/press_detail.cfm?press_id=482
 

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A handy thing that constitution, but it has its weaknesses, particularly where political expediency is concerned.
 

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Trea·son Audio pronunciation of "treason" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trzn)
n.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.
 

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Fits right in with a Hitlerite society.

The flip side of capitalism.
 

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Joe Contrarian said:
Trea·son Audio pronunciation of "treason" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trzn)
n.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Does this apply to the public employees who rallied against Clinton, Joe?
 

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Joe Contrarian said:
Trea·son Audio pronunciation of "treason" ( P ) Pronunciation Key (trzn)
n.

1. Violation of allegiance toward one's country or sovereign, especially the betrayal of one's country by waging war against it or by consciously and purposely acting to aid its enemies.

2. A betrayal of trust or confidence.

Yes and that would be most correct in describing the Neocon led assault on our Constitution.

Most observant there Joe-Anne Coulterian :103631605
 

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Richard Ceballos, an employee of the Los Angeles District Attorney's office, found that a sheriff misrepresented facts in a search warrant affidavit. Ceballos notified the attorneys prosecuting the case stemming from that arrest and all agreed that the affidavit was questionable, but the D.A.'s office refused to dismiss the case. Ceballos then told the defense he believed the affidavit contained false statements, and defense counsel subpoenaed him to testify. Seeking damages in federal district court, Ceballos alleged that D.A.s in the office retaliated against him for his cooperation with the defense, which he argued was protected by the First Amendment.

This has nothing to do with free speech and has nothing to do with detrmining the finer points between right and wrong! It's about doing what the boss tells you to do!

The guy decided to go against the wishes of his superiors with an "in your face". His superiors determined that he couldn't be trusted prosecuting a case to their satisfaction and demoted him.

There was no question about the validity of the evidence, only the method used to get approval to gather some of the evidence.

I'm not sure about some of the more ardent left wingers on the forum, but I think most of us agree that a prosecutors duty is to make sure the defendant is prosecuted and put away, not to help free him.

This guy forgot who he was working for - he's lucky - I would have fired him!
 

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BB, how about if I know my boss is stealing form the company? Should I say nothing?
 

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Judge Wapner said:
BB, how about if I know my boss is stealing form the company? Should I say nothing?

Come off of it Judge - what utter crap! That reasoning is Clintonian; "that depends on what "is" is!"

He was demoted for not carrying out policy!

He decided on his own to ignore direct instructions from his superiors and to define his own duties.

He was not instructed to break any laws or commit any crimes.

His superiors did not break any laws or commit any crimes!

This guy disagreed with his instructions and did an "in your face" to his superiors - they demoted him for his actions - end subject.

An organization can't function if ther hierarchy doesn't work - the tail can't wag the head! It's that simple!

What if the person on the phone in the book decided he wanted to help the customer by changing the odds in the customers favor - should he be allowed to continue doing so, or should he be stopped and disciplined?
 

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BB, they lied to obtain a search warrent. This is policy??????? You don't think what they did was wrong and should have been brought to light? Don't know if what they did was illegal, but it should be.They were abusing the justice system.
 

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Judge Wapner said:
BB, they lied to obtain a search warrent. This is policy??????? You don't think what they did was wrong and should have been brought to light? Don't know if what they did was illegal, but it should be.They were abusing the justice system.

Judge - one of the affidavits used to gain a search warrant contained supposed, but unproven falsehoods. Ceballos brought it to his superiors attention.

They decided to ignore it and use the evidence. Their decision was not illegal and was expedient to their goal to gain a conviction.

Remember, the evidence was not in question, only ONE of the documents used to get a warrant to gather the evidence was "questionable".

Ceballos forgot what his job was and what his position was in the hierarchy. He went against his bosses decision and is paying the price for his poor judgement!

Like I said before, if he worked for me, I would have fired him!
 

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I'm pretty sure the norms of full disclosure would apply in this case, but would like D2's thoughts on that.

In any case, if public officials who blow the whistle on their superiors do not have first amendment speech protection, what does this mean for the Whistleblower Protection Act?

This ruling, it seems to me, is designed to protect gov't from public statements of dissent by their employees. I cannot understand how anyone can believe this doesn't pose a serious long-term problem.
 

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xpanda said:
In any case, if public officials who blow the whistle on their superiors do not have first amendment speech protection.

This ruling, it seems to me, is designed to protect gov't from public statements of dissent by their employees. I cannot understand how anyone can believe this doesn't pose a serious long-term problem.

There's no dissent here! Only a disobedient employee.

This guy did't blow the whistle on his superiors - he disobeyed their instructions and the tried to hide behind the whistleblower rule.

Nothing happened to this guys superiors because of his actions - the only thing that happened is that he gave information to a defense in defiance of his superiors orders - and a criminal may have gone free.

There's no long or short term damage caused by this ruling - The prerogative of management to make decisions without being overruled by the rank and file has been reenforced by the courts - we'd have work place anarchy without such a ruling

As I noted before, He should have been fired!
 

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Judge Wapner said:
Why, because he notified the defense?

Because he disobeyed his superiors instructions!

Look, his superiors didn't do anything illegal! Some people might say there's a degree of ethics involved, we've all seen how District Attorneys twist the rules in persuit of a conviction, but this guy took it upon himself to decide his bosses were wrong and go against their instructions.

People do this in the work place every day - and get fired for their stupidity. This guy is lucky that he was demoted and not fired!
 

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The case before the court was that of Richard Ceballos, a deputy district attorney in Los Angeles County, California who learned that a deputy sheriff lied to obtain a search warrant, Ceballos advised his superiors of the wrongdoing, and recommended that the county drop its case. His recommendation was ignored, and his superiors demanded that he continue with the prosecution. Ceballos then informed the defense of his findings, as required by law. Despite the fact that he had acted in a lawful fashion, Ceballos was removed from the case, demoted, and transferred to a different office.
You really have comprehension problem blight. What part of sheriff lied to obtain a search warrant don't you understand?
 

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bblight said:
There's no dissent here! Only a disobedient employee.

This guy did't blow the whistle on his superiors - he disobeyed their instructions and the tried to hide behind the whistleblower rule.

Nothing happened to this guys superiors because of his actions - the only thing that happened is that he gave information to a defense in defiance of his superiors orders - and a criminal may have gone free.

There's no long or short term damage caused by this ruling - The prerogative of management to make decisions without being overruled by the rank and file has been reenforced by the courts - we'd have work place anarchy without such a ruling

As I noted before, He should have been fired!

Boy where to start here with you. I feel certain you have little grasp as to the legal issues raised or the actual scope of it.
Let's try a good, well-written background on the case, which I have included an excerpt below.

The critical thing you seem to be missing here is this concerns a "public" employee/and genuine public concern. There is legal precedent here that has been challenged. The trial court decision was overturned at the state appelate level, which then was appealed to the high court of Neocons....

Ceballos took the matter to the 9th Circuit Court of Appeals. The central issues before the court were: did Ceballos’ speech warrant constitutional protection and should the county be liable if officials violated that right?

The 9th Circuit reversed, holding that Ceballos’ speech was protected under the 1st Amendment and the court erred by granting immunity to the defendants.*(his superiors, one of which was that hack Gil Garceti)*
Writing for a unanimous panel, Judge Stephen Reinhardt explained that Ceballos’ speech warranted constitutional protection because “the law was clearly established (in the 1983 Supreme Court case of Connick v. Myers) that Ceballos’ speech addressed a matter of public concern” and “his interest in the speech outweighed the public employer’s interest in avoiding efficiency and disruption,” as was set out in 1968 in Pickering v. Board of Education.
In defining the scope of 1st Amendment protection given to public officials, the Supreme Court distinguished between speech as “a citizen upon matters of public concern” and speech “as an employee upon matters only of personal interest."

The Supreme Court ruled that a government employee’s speech loses 1st Amendment protection only if that speech has absolutely no relevance to the public’s evaluation of the performance of governmental agencies.

“We have held that when government employees speak out about corruption, wrongdoing, misconduct, wastefulness, or inefficiency by other government employees, including law enforcement officers, their speech is inherently a matter of public concern,” Reinhardt wrote. “The right of public employees to speak freely on matters of public concern is important to the orderly functioning of the democratic process.”

How hard is that to grasp, Fascist-Blight?? A gov't employee acting for the common benefit of the populous. You can't tell us that dirty warrants should be upheld in court? If so then you really are a police-state muppet.

Now of course Garcetti, et. al pursue this to the next level, the Supreme Court and hence we have the nature of this thread regarding their reversal.
Interesting to note that the case was assigned for re-argument after the initial presentation, and guess who took his seat on the bench in O'Conner's place??? Sam the neocon man Alito:

On Feb. 17, 2006, the Court restored the case to the calendar for reargument. It was reargued a month later, on March 21, with Samuel Alito on the bench.

On May 30, the Court, divided 5-4, found against Ceballos, holding that when public employees make statements pursuant to their official duties, they are not speaking as citizens for 1st Amendment purposes, and therefore, the Constitution does not insulate their communications from employer discipline.

In the first 5-4 decision since both Chief Justice John Roberts and Justice Alito joined the Court, they joined Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas in constituting a majority with Justice Kennedy, who wrote the majority opinion.

entire text of the case summary for those who are interested (blight just forget it, you not only won't read it, you'll find some way to dismiss it)

http://docket.medill.northwestern.edu/archives/002197.php
 

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xpanda said:
I'm pretty sure the norms of full disclosure would apply in this case, but would like D2's thoughts on that.

In any case, if public officials who blow the whistle on their superiors do not have first amendment speech protection, what does this mean for the Whistleblower Protection Act?

This ruling, it seems to me, is designed to protect gov't from public statements of dissent by their employees. I cannot understand how anyone can believe this doesn't pose a serious long-term problem.

It makes you wonder if some people actually care what is going on, or whether they would just prefer to stay blind and pretend nothing is wrong, all is well.
 

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