Stop with the college football playoff whining...

[Boxslayer]

At what f*ckin point is anyone going to understand that there are contracts in place to have the current BCS System for AT LEAST a few more years.

You can't go a day without someone talking about a playoff system, like the concept hasn't been beaten dead already.

Whether you like the BCS System or not, enough is enough. IT'S NOT GOING TO HAPPEN ANYTIME SOON. GET OVER IT.

It's like saying, "Crap, I married this fat hoe. If Angelina Jolie was in the picture, I'd be doing doggie style without even asking. I gotta take this chick to dinner just to get some missionary in the dark." YOU AIN'T BANGIN JOLIE UNTIL AT LEAST 2012, if ever, and there will NOT be a Playoff System until at least 2012, if ever. So stop thinking about what outfits Jolie will wear for you, and stop thinking about cliched, unimaginative playoff brackets.

Speaking of which, you would finally get Jolie and your playoff system in 2012, you would blow your load over both in the first 5 mins, and the regular dates and the regular season would both become meaningless and boring - just like this shitty NFL regular season, shitty NBA regular season, shitty MLB regular season that is completely unexciting unless you have money on every game or fantasy football going.

Had to get that off my chest.arty:

 

[bigtendominator]

Let me ask you a question, what do you think the real reason behind not creating a playoff is?

IMO, it is because there isn't much more money in a playoff. I think the networks aren't going to pay too much more, so there won't be the economic windfall that most think.

Travel, school and logistics are just excuses.

 

[Boxslayer]

Let me ask you a question, what do you think the real reason behind not creating a playoff is?

IMO, it is because there isn't much more money in a playoff. I think the networks aren't going to pay too much more, so there won't be the economic windfall that most think.

Travel, school and logistics are just excuses.

#1 - More money in the bowl system.

#2 - More controversy, more interest, more excitement in the BCS System. A perfect example is my GF is also a huge Gator fan, and she knows how the BCS System works now because she asked 100 questions. She understands which polls count, and which ones don't (AP Poll). In what other sport do you create fanatical interest like this from very casual fans?

#3 - The bowl system is one of the single greatest experiences for college athletes in sports. Period. As a degenerate gambler, they are nothing more than exhibition games to us. But to these kids, the freebies they get for participating, the excitement of qualifiying, playing 1 final game, etc. In every sport on the planet, every single team but 1 ends their season on a sour note (like a team getting eliminated from the playoffs)> The Bowl Season allows a lot of teams to finish their college careers and seasons on high notes, play an out of conference foe that is of equal talent level, and end as winners in a "bowl game" on National TV. No other sports allows this many teams to end their seasons on high notes and feeling good about what was accomplished in that season.

#4 - Final Exams, School, etc. These are student-athletes. Not athletic-students. Extending a playoff system out over 3-4 weeks throughout December can ruin final exams for these kids. This is reason #4, not reason #1.

It's pretty obvious that some kind of a playoff system would be the best way of determining a champion. This has been beaten dead.

But for me, I love knowing how important every game is on Saturday. Every play, every game is a potential do or die. It creates passion, excitement, etc. A playoff system would RUIN IT. Just sneak into the tournament as the last seed and anything can happen if you get hot. Many teams with 2 losses, maybe even 3 losses will begin making their case for that last slot. The season would become watered down and a joke.

Not everything has to be the same. I am not debating that a playoff wouldn't be a more fair way of determining a true champion. I just don't understand why every freakin sport has to be played out the exact same way. The BCS isn't the best system, but it maintains excitement, offers a bit of variety from other sports, makes the regular season very enjoyable and it generally works. A few tweaks can be made, but we dont need an unoriginal, cliched, mindless, unimaginative playoff system to ruin the college regular season the way the NFL sucks.

 

[EveryGamblersDream]

Complete & utter bullshit that the regular season would mean nothing. I am so sick of people saying a playoff would cheapen the season. The comparisons between two different levels & sometimes sports is ridiculous enough.

Ask the teams, fans, etc.. of I-AA/FCS teams who have to fight all season to try & qualify for a playoff spot. If you don't win your conference, it has to come down to getting at-large bids. The season is always exciting & it would be exactly the same for I-A. If one can't get that, they truly need to get a clue as they are way off base.

Talk about meaningless regular season, look no further than the I-A/FBS regular season which eliminates a majority of teams from title chances before spring ball!

If anything a playoff might open the door for better scheduling so teams can have quality wins to help boost their chances at at-large bids.

 

[OTK]

I agree 100% with boxslayer here. I personally love the bowls and do like the bcs system. Obviously you have the argument that a playoff would create a more fair way of determining a champion, but they get it right more often than not.

 

[Boxslayer]

Complete & utter bullshit that the regular season would mean nothing. I am so sick of people saying a playoff would cheapen the season. The comparisons between two different levels & sometimes sports is ridiculous enough.

Ask the teams, fans, etc.. of I-AA/FCS teams who have to fight all season to try & qualify for a playoff spot. If you don't win your conference, it has to come down to getting at-large bids. The season is always exciting & it would be exactly the same for I-A. If one can't get that, they truly need to get a clue as they are way off base.

Talk about meaningless regular season, look no further than the I-A/FBS regular season which eliminates a majority of teams from title chances before spring ball!

If anything a playoff might open the door for better scheduling so teams can have quality wins to help boost their chances at at-large bids.

I disagree with you 100%. Playoffs would cheapen the regular season as we know it. I have no doubt in my mind. We will agree to disagree. The I-AA teams never had a taste of a regular season this exciting and intense. They have nothing to compare to.

I never said the BCS was perfect. Tweaks need to be made, specifically some kind of a Final Four, or Final 3 with #1 getting a bye is all that is needed. You dont need 8 freakin teams making the "playoffs". Scheduling the 1 vs. 4 and 2vs. 3 semi-finals in mid-December would eliminate another issue which is 4-5 week layoffs before the big games. 2 weeks to prepare for semi-final, 2 weeks to prepare for national title. No major layoffs. Allowing teams from smaller non BCS conferences to compete for national titles should be allowed. Some kind of mandatory scheduling would need to go into effect to force these teams to schedule at least 2 major conference opponents in their OOC scheduling. Eliminate teams being allowed to play I-AA teams. Etc.

You make these changes, maintain the current BCS for excitement/controversy, and create a Final 3/Final 4, and you will legitimize the national title a little more while still maintaining the best regular season in sports.

 

[Rude]

The playoff system will determine who the best team is.

Take the top 10 teams (based on the current way teams ranking are determined) in the playoff system, and the rest can play the Bowl Games.

I don't see how people say the reg season will mean nothing.
This year a perfect example, so many 1 lose teams, that you can make the argument to alot of them.

A playoff system ould have solved that issue real quick, as the top 10 teams will be playing vs the best.

Ad the end of the day ... money will decide it all. What people want will never be considered.

 

[Rude]

maintaining the best regular season in sports.

That would be North American Sport only sir. Sports where No Playoff System exists, are still the best example of "regular season matters"

 

[Addict101]

While it might not be fair for everyone, you can't deny that the BCS system makes for the most exciting regular season in sports, whether it be collegiate or professional.

 

[Rude]

While it might not be fair for everyone, you can't deny that the BCS system makes for the most exciting regular season in sports, whether it be collegiate or professional.

Problem is too many bullshit games vs weak schools.
And " We beat them already, but we played at home" talk. Who's to say the game wouldnt go the other way if they played on the road?

Keep the BCS ranking, then have a playoff with top 4 or 6 or 10 to decide true champ.

 

[Boxslayer]

The playoff system will determine who the best team is.

Take the top 10 teams (based on the current way teams ranking are determined) in the playoff system, and the rest can play the Bowl Games.

I don't see how people say the reg season will mean nothing.
This year a perfect example, so many 1 lose teams, that you can make the argument to alot of them.

A playoff system ould have solved that issue real quick, as the top 10 teams will be playing vs the best.

Ad the end of the day ... money will decide it all. What people want will never be considered.

10 teams now? Yeah that doesnt water anything down. Letting anyone and everyone into the playoffs. It would KILL the regular season.

You will see these polls change so quick because they are done by HUMANS. If there are 10 teams, you will start seeing 2-loss Michigan, and 3-loss Ohio State teams getting voted at #9 and #10 so they get into the playoffs. You will see the whole poll system change with human bias in it.

You saw the polls being manipulated already this year. We saw coaches vote Texas up so they can get into the title game and it just barely didnt work. But the principle of the matter was disturbing.

10 teams by the way increases the season by 5 weeks, it will never happen.

8 teams increases the season by 4 weeks. It will never happen.

This isnt the NFL, this isnt these guys jobs. The vast majority of these kids will NOT play in the NFL. You are forgetting that this is college football.

On a team like Florida or Oklahoma, loaded with talent, maybe 7 or 8 guys of the roster of 60 have a legit chance of playing in the NFL and get drafted. Other than that, these guys need to focus on their academics. You cant just add 4 weeks to the season during final exams. On teams like Utah, Boise State, etc maybe 3 of their guys have a chance to play in the NFL. The other 57 need to focus on school.

 

[FairWarning]

#1 - More money in the bowl system.

#2 - More controversy, more interest, more excitement in the BCS System. A perfect example is my GF is also a huge Gator fan, and she knows how the BCS System works now because she asked 100 questions. She understands which polls count, and which ones don't (AP Poll). In what other sport do you create fanatical interest like this from very casual fans?

#3 - The bowl system is one of the single greatest experiences for college athletes in sports. Period. As a degenerate gambler, they are nothing more than exhibition games to us. But to these kids, the freebies they get for participating, the excitement of qualifiying, playing 1 final game, etc. In every sport on the planet, every single team but 1 ends their season on a sour note (like a team getting eliminated from the playoffs)> The Bowl Season allows a lot of teams to finish their college careers and seasons on high notes, play an out of conference foe that is of equal talent level, and end as winners in a "bowl game" on National TV. No other sports allows this many teams to end their seasons on high notes and feeling good about what was accomplished in that season.

#4 - Final Exams, School, etc. These are student-athletes. Not athletic-students. Extending a playoff system out over 3-4 weeks throughout December can ruin final exams for these kids. This is reason #4, not reason #1.

It's pretty obvious that some kind of a playoff system would be the best way of determining a champion. This has been beaten dead.

But for me, I love knowing how important every game is on Saturday. Every play, every game is a potential do or die. It creates passion, excitement, etc. A playoff system would RUIN IT. Just sneak into the tournament as the last seed and anything can happen if you get hot. Many teams with 2 losses, maybe even 3 losses will begin making their case for that last slot. The season would become watered down and a joke.

Not everything has to be the same. I am not debating that a playoff wouldn't be a more fair way of determining a true champion. I just don't understand why every freakin sport has to be played out the exact same way. The BCS isn't the best system, but it maintains excitement, offers a bit of variety from other sports, makes the regular season very enjoyable and it generally works. A few tweaks can be made, but we dont need an unoriginal, cliched, mindless, unimaginative playoff system to ruin the college regular season the way the NFL sucks.

How do the kids go to class in FCS schools? How about basketball players and the endless travel to Alaska, Hawaii, Puerto Rico, etc?

The season is a joke now. It is a combination of teams playing 7-8 home games, and politics/debate. Texas not making the championship game shows the joke this system is. Boise not getting a chance also shows the hypocracy of the system.

 

[mofome]

What i think is funny is the fact that people really think Texas is more deserving than Oklahoma.

 

[mofome]

On a team like Florida or Oklahoma, loaded with talent, maybe 7 or 8 guys of the roster of 60 have a legit chance of playing in the NFL and get drafted.

perhaps the most ridiculously inaccurate thing ever authored on any message board. stick to the funnies.

 

[FairWarning]

What i think is funny is the fact that people really think Texas is more deserving than Oklahoma.

There has to be some reward for beating them, right?

 

[mofome]

There has to be some reward for beating them, right?

For beating Oklahoma? What reward does TT get for beating Texas? Unclear.

 

[FairWarning]

For beating Oklahoma? What reward does TT get for beating Texas? Unclear.

My stance on TT is they played two FCS teams, so their schedule is easier than OU and Texas.

 

[mofome]

My stance on TT is they played two FCS teams, so their schedule is easier than OU and Texas.

My stance on OU: There was one blow out in the games played b/w these teams and OU was the blower-outter. OU showed the ability to dominate a great team on a level that is almost unbelievable. OU could have won this game by 80, literally, 80, if they wanted to. TT is a great team who was leading texas for about 59 minutes. OU beat them like they were a high school team, late in the season, when they needed to show up.

Not to mention the pummeling OU put on two other very good out of conference teams. One of which is a BCS representative. Slightly more impressive than taking it to the likes of UTEP, Fla At, Ark, and Rice.

 

[Boxslayer]

perhaps the most ridiculously inaccurate thing ever authored on any message board. stick to the funnies.

First of all, it was just an off the top of my head guess at 3 in the morning.

2nd of all, go ahead and name me the players on Florida's roster that will get drafted and have serious NFL careers that dont include a couple appearances and practice squad duty. I mean playing, everyday, and making a career out of it.

 

[bellyputter]

I honestly wouldn't care if the college season was over for 2008, and I graduated from OU.