Stairway to Seven

[CityChicken]

The Pittsburgh Steelers 2009 schedule is out and it looks like the Steelers have a great chance at repeating as SuperBowl Champions and bringing a 7th Lombardi trophy to the Steel City.. Gotta love it! <><>


Pittsburgh Steelers 2009 schedule:

Thursday, Sept. 10
TENNESSEE, 8:30 p.m.

Sunday, Sept. 20
at Chicago, 4:15 p.m.

Sunday, Sept. 27
at Cincinnati, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 4
SAN DIEGO, 8:20 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 11
at Detroit, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 18
CLEVELAND, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 25
MINNESOTA, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 1
Bye Week

Monday, Nov. 9
at Denver, 8:30 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 15
CINCINNATI, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 22*
at Kansas City, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 29*
at Baltimore, 8:20 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 6*
OAKLAND, 1 p.m.

Thursday, Dec. 10
at Cleveland, 8:20 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 20*
GREEN BAY, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 27*
BALTIMORE, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Jan. 3*
at Miami, 1 p.m.


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[RunLeeRun]

I see 7 difficult games for the Steelers. Titans, Bears, Vikings, Packers, Chargers, Ravens (2) and Dolphins. They should make the playoffs again easy enough. But they didn't exactly throttle any of the good teams (exception of Patriots) last year. The defense will have to be just as steller as last year. I will catch backlash for saying this, but Roethlisberger is just an average QB. Look at his stats. He is Kyle Orton-ish (bad at reading coverage) with good mobility and a gutsy receiver who would make any QB better. Orton had very average receivers and the same stats. 75% of the QB's starting last year with THAT Steelers D, could do as well or better. If Tom Brady is back to old form, I would see the Patriots as the clear favorite...with the Steelers probably the 4th best team in the AFC (but anywhere from 3rd to 5th).

 

[ZJP6050]

I see 7 difficult games for the Steelers. Titans, Bears, Vikings, Packers, Chargers, Ravens (2) and Dolphins. They should make the playoffs again easy enough. But they didn't exactly throttle any of the good teams (exception of Patriots) last year. The defense will have to be just as steller as last year. I will catch backlash for saying this, but Roethlisberger is just an average QB. Look at his stats. He is Kyle Orton-ish (bad at reading coverage) with good mobility and a gutsy receiver who would make any QB better. Orton had very average receivers and the same stats. 75% of the QB's starting last year with THAT Steelers D, could do as well or better. If Tom Brady is back to old form, I would see the Patriots as the clear favorite...with the Steelers probably the 4th best team in the AFC (but anywhere from 3rd to 5th).

kyle orton-ish...let's get serious. the guy makes things happen. please lay off the mushroomshno:

 

[RunLeeRun]

kyle orton-ish...let's get serious. the guy makes things happen. please lay off the mushroomshno:

Take your black and gold shades off long enough to be a little objective, then go look at his stats and see where they rank...right next to Orton. I already said he is mobile, so he keeps some plays alive. But lets get ahold of reality for just a sec, the Steelers win with Defense. Put in Kyle Orton and they still go to the playoffs...I mean how hard is it to throw 7-10 wr, te and rb screens per game and the occasional long throw? And if I had any mushrooms, I wouldn't be doing them, I'd just sell them to you.

 

[Pauleboman]

The Pittsburgh Steelers 2009 schedule is out and it looks like the Steelers have a great chance at repeating as SuperBowl Champions and bringing a 7th Lombardi trophy to the Steel City.. Gotta love it! <><>


Pittsburgh Steelers 2009 schedule:

Thursday, Sept. 10
TENNESSEE, 8:30 p.m.

Sunday, Sept. 20
at Chicago, 4:15 p.m. Loss

Sunday, Sept. 27
at Cincinnati, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 4
SAN DIEGO, 8:20 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 11
at Detroit, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 18
CLEVELAND, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Oct. 25
MINNESOTA, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 1
Bye Week

Monday, Nov. 9
at Denver, 8:30 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 15
CINCINNATI, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 22*
at Kansas City, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Nov. 29*
at Baltimore, 8:20 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 6*
OAKLAND, 1 p.m.

Thursday, Dec. 10
at Cleveland, 8:20 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 20*
GREEN BAY, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Dec. 27*
BALTIMORE, 1 p.m.

Sunday, Jan. 3*
at Miami, 1 p.m.


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You mean Navy Blue and Orange Right?
I think the Bears go all the way..

 

[CityChicken]

Your forgetting 1 thing there brother,Those teams you just named have to play @ Pickle Park, Tennessee, GBay, Minny, San Diego are all home games for Pittsburgh, Steelers are real tough to play against @ home where they dont lose very often... And as far as Roethlisbergers stats, It doesnt mean shit, Pittsburgh wins as a team as loses as a team, Ben is their leader and he makes plays happen.. The players around him understand that the name on the back of the jersey isnt as important as the name on the front.. Thats why this team is successful.. GO STEELERS!

 

[RunLeeRun]

Your forgetting 1 thing there brother,Those teams you just named have to play @ Pickle Park, Tennessee, GBay, Minny, San Diego are all home games for Pittsburgh, Steelers are real tough to play against @ home where they dont lose very often... And as far as Roethlisbergers stats, It doesnt mean shit, Pittsburgh wins as a team as loses as a team, Ben is their leader and he makes plays happen.. The players around him understand that the name on the back of the jersey isnt as important as the name on the front.. Thats why this team is successful.. GO STEELERS!

First off if stats don't mean anything, then why do we even keep them? Fact is if you look at the stats more often than not the worst teams have the worst stats. Of all 8 qbs with a rating below Roethlesberger only one made the playoffs and he was benched and didn't play. I agree it is a team game, and stats aren't black and white. But teams don't often win more than they lose when the qb can't do better than an 80 pass rating. Bro, my point is they play a lot of close games. And being a game of inches, the margin of error is much less when you only win by one score or less. Last year they were 6-2 in those types of games. This is the NFL, that record can easily flip in close games. And then we have 2006 again when they were 8-8 with Roethlessberger pitching a 75 ppr. BRO, the D won game after game for this team. Put Batch in and see how they do. I bet they'd do better with him.

 

[RunLeeRun]

Pualeboman- the Bears got better with the QB upgrade, but the d is starting to look old. The secondary seemed injured a lot and with new pieces, they are up in the air. Right now, they are just an above average D until they can get the corners back to 2005 form and Bullocks and Payne gel. They'll need the extra help offensively that Cutler should bring.

 

[jerbeek]

I would say that it is very difficult to repeat. Also, an easy schedule only means you will get to the playoffs not an easy walk thru the playoffs. And, there seems to be someone coming back to the Patriots who may make a difference.

 

[ZJP6050]

Pualeboman- the Bears got better with the QB upgrade, but the d is starting to look old. The secondary seemed injured a lot and with new pieces, they are up in the air. Right now, they are just an above average D until they can get the corners back to 2005 form and Bullocks and Payne gel. They'll need the extra help offensively that Cutler should bring.

are you telling me that the chicago bears didn't have a great defense? things such as leadership and IQ rank right up there with statistics. please, try to use your brain before you compare ben roethlisberger to kyle orton. i'd never buy the shrooms you're offering, far too dilusional.

 

[jjlollipops]

i've always said that ben is an average QB, usually only having to throw 15 to 20 passes a game, but thats all he has to do in that offense. He is mobile and keeps plays alive, but i would be very interested to see how he would do in an offense where he HAD to throw the ball. Also, saying that charlie batch would do just as well as ben is insane. he did have a good game last year, but again, its CHARLIE BATCH!!! What the hell do i know, I'm a Bengals fan. LOL

 

[RunLeeRun]

are you telling me that the chicago bears didn't have a great defense? things such as leadership and IQ rank right up there with statistics. please, try to use your brain before you compare ben roethlisberger to kyle orton. i'd never buy the shrooms you're offering, far too dilusional.

Which year are you refering to? If we are talking 2008, then I ask you "did the Browns have a great defense? Cause the gave up 21.9 pts a game, just like the Bears. Put all the Poindexters you want on the D, giving up almost 22 pts a game doesn't sound great to me. Now if you read what I wrote, I said they "are" average and are looking old and missing pieces from their 2005 when they were a great D, allow less points than your beloved 2008 Steeler D. So when you come down from your trip re-read what I wrote, you might actually understand what is says.

 

[RunLeeRun]

please, try to use your brain before you compare ben roethlisberger to kyle orton.

How is it that by me comparing Orton (who led his team to score 23.4 pts a game) to Roethlisberger (team scored 21.7/game), I'm not using my brain? Dude, we all have different opinions. I'm a Bears fan, and I see them for what their D is "right now". You need to get off your knees and let Big Ben get back to practice, cause he needs it. If the Steelers D isn't steller last year, with that average offense and qb play, they are 9-7. Lucky for Ben they play D. And since the D was so good that means the offense was on the field more (31:41/GAME) and still couldn't score more than the Bears (28:36/game). Roethlisberger=average

 

[woodypaige]

How is it that by me comparing Orton (who led his team to score 23.4 pts a game) to Roethlisberger (team scored 21.7/game), I'm not using my brain? Dude, we all have different opinions. I'm a Bears fan, and I see them for what their D is "right now". You need to get off your knees and let Big Ben get back to practice, cause he needs it. If the Steelers D isn't steller last year, with that average offense and qb play, they are 9-7. Lucky for Ben they play D. And since the D was so good that means the offense was on the field more (31:41/GAME) and still couldn't score more than the Bears (28:36/game). Roethlisberger=average

Roethlisberger=average
Put down your crack pipe!!!

The most important stat that Big Ben had over Orton, is that he led the winning drive to his 2nd Super Bowl win.
Wins and loses are more important than QB stats.

Orton had a better and healthier offensive line last year than Pitt, which was deceiving as far as stats go. Pitt lost 2 of their best OL early in the season, and Ben had a lot of pressure while these rookies developed.
The NFC North was the weakest conference in all of football, yet Orton couldn't step up to win on the road.

Ben basically took the team on his back throughout the playoffs and in the Super Bowl.

 

[RunLeeRun]

Roethlisberger=average
Put down your crack pipe!!!

The most important stat that Big Ben had over Orton, is that he led the winning drive to his 2nd Super Bowl win.
Wins and loses are more important than QB stats.

Orton had a better and healthier offensive line last year than Pitt, which was deceiving as far as stats go. Pitt lost 2 of their best OL early in the season, and Ben had a lot of pressure while these rookies developed.
The NFC North was the weakest conference in all of football, yet Orton couldn't step up to win on the road.

Ben basically took the team on his back throughout the playoffs and in the Super Bowl.

Oh we got ourselves a Coloranian here! What a pathetic journalist. Woody made his living hanging off of Nebraska's nuts. Weak. Let me help you since you seem light headed from lack of oxygen. I agree the most important thing is wins, but if my team doesn't have the kind of D that keeps opponents under 14 pts, I want somebody that can actually read coverage. ANY OTHER average QB with a defense that gave up less than 14 pts a game, can win 12 games (see Trent Dilfer 2000). Switch Orton for Roethlisberger and the only things you lose are 23 lbs and they occasion ability to keep a play alive long enough for a coverage breakdown or a sack. Oh, and Roethlisberger had 3 touchdowns in the playoffs. The D carried that team. But I will concede you one thing. I was wrong about calling him average...he's fat and average.

 

[BigDon]

people get a clue... Big Ben is 9-2 all time in the playoffs which= a winner ! Montana and Bradshaw did not have those kind of numbers in the playoffs. throw the stats out... game winning superbowl drive + 9-2 all time in the playoffs = money. He is a money QB

:money8:

 

[RunLeeRun]

people get a clue... Big Ben is 9-2 all time in the playoffs which= a winner ! Montana and Bradshaw did not have those kind of numbers in the playoffs. throw the stats out... game winning superbowl drive + 9-2 all time in the playoffs = money. He is a money QB

:money8:

that must be all the cash you won on the Steelers Superbowl laying the points.

Montana and Bradshaw both have 4 Superbowls. 32-12 combined in the playoffs. Dan Marino could win, today, with the Steelers D. You're not going to tell me that Roethlisberger is better than Marino just because never had the D to back him up? Roethlisberger is the recipient of a great Defense. Over his career the D has given up 16.4 points a game. Name me one qb that had that kind of D over 5 years and doesn't have a great win-loss ratio.

 

[woodypaige]

that must be all the cash you won on the Steelers Superbowl laying the points.

Montana and Bradshaw both have 4 Superbowls. 32-12 combined in the playoffs. Dan Marino could win, today, with the Steelers D. You're not going to tell me that Roethlisberger is better than Marino just because never had the D to back him up? Roethlisberger is the recipient of a great Defense. Over his career the D has given up 16.4 points a game. Name me one qb that had that kind of D over 5 years and doesn't have a great win-loss ratio.

Orton:grandmais

 

[woodypaige]

Oh we got ourselves a Coloranian here! What a pathetic journalist. Woody made his living hanging off of Nebraska's nuts. Weak. Let me help you since you seem light headed from lack of oxygen. I agree the most important thing is wins, but if my team doesn't have the kind of D that keeps opponents under 14 pts, I want somebody that can actually read coverage. ANY OTHER average QB with a defense that gave up less than 14 pts a game, can win 12 games (see Trent Dilfer 2000). Switch Orton for Roethlisberger and the only things you lose are 23 lbs and they occasion ability to keep a play alive long enough for a coverage breakdown or a sack. Oh, and Roethlisberger had 3 touchdowns in the playoffs. The D carried that team. But I will concede you one thing. I was wrong about calling him average...he's fat and average.

Looks like you've contradicted yourself
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?p=6580063#post6580063

Like I said above, winning % is all that matters.:grandmais

 

[ZJP6050]

Looks like you've contradicted yourself
http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?p=6580063#post6580063

Like I said above, winning % is all that matters.:grandmais

and i'll take a leader, over kyle orton.