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looking hard at this play boys. if i pull the trigger, it will be for big money. i think the rams are done. mike martz is the dumbest guy in the nfl. faulk, bruce and holt are all a year older. the divsion isnt great but, arizona is improved and seattle is decent.

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I'm looking for a few good UNDERS to bet for the season. The same thoughts were running through my mind about SL.
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Looks good Blue; I think I could see them with 8 wins max.
 
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Butler is out for the season, huge loss.
 

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I'd be hesitant to go under on the Rams. I think they get 2 wins against the Niners and then probably split against the other 2 teams in that division. If they go 4-2 in division, they only need to go 5-5 to win 9, which is exactly what I expect them to win. 8 wouldn't shock me either, but I think its a risky pick either way.
 
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The Rams win this Division. They have the best offense, and the other defenses in the division are horrible.
 
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...and the other defenses in the division are horrible.


Arizona and Seattle both have a good defense. I say 7-9 or 8-8 for the Rams.

Martz is most likely the worst coach in NFL history. Rams are a team on the decline.
 
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I like it, Blue. This defense is still terrible, especially without Butler. Still got an explosive passing game, but it won't matter if the O-line continues to look like crap in pass protection. :103631605

If Bulger gets hurt early on, this season is done
 
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im glad martz is there....i love to fade them...people actually seem to think they are good or even still a super bowl team.
 
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got down today at pinnacle...had to pay -115 but, i feel good about the play. this team has:

- a bad defense
- the worst coach in professional sports (he's worse than dusty baker)
- very old players at key skill positions
- a proven inability to win on the road

<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1><TD class=yspdetailttl colSpan=3 height=18>Regular Season</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/11</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at San Francisco</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>4:15 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/18</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Arizona</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>4:05 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/25</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Tennessee</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/2</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at NY Giants</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/9</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Seattle</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Mon 10/17</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Indianapolis</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>9:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/23</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>New Orleans</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/30</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Jacksonville</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap></TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>bye</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/13</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Seattle</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>4:15 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/20</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Arizona</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/27</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Houston</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/4</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Washington</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>4:05 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/11</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Minnesota</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/18</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Philadelphia</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>4:15 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sat 12/24</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>San Francisco</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>1:00 pm</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 1/1</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Dallas</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>8:30 pm</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>

they will lose 3 of the last 4 games so, if they go 6-6 or even 7-5 during the first twelve games, i'm golden.
 
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i see 9+ wins here.


But thanks for the write up as I will at a minimum pass on the over based on your info and thoughts. sometimes the best wager is the one not made.
 

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Here's how I see the Rams season shaking out

<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1><TD class=yspdetailttl colSpan=3 height=18>Regular Season</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/11</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at San Francisco</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/18</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Arizona</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/25</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Tennessee</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/2</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at NY Giants</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/9</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Seattle</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Mon 10/17</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Indianapolis</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>UGLY LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/23</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>New Orleans</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/30</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Jacksonville</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap></TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>bye</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/13</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Seattle</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/20</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Arizona</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/27</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Houston</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/4</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Washington</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/11</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Minnesota</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/18</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Philadelphia</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sat 12/24</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>San Francisco</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 1/1</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Dallas</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS

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That would put them at 9-7. They could easily lose the Houston game. But they could beat Dallas if the game has meaning for them and not Dallas.

I still say Under 8.5 is risky but I hope you're right (since I have no $$$ invested in it).
 

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Ram Problems

Poor coach
Poor on grass (beware, can be good on road turf)
Secondary beat up and will be exposed
New kicker this year?
Still turnover prone

I'll say 8-8.
 
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call me crazy but, i think the 9ers get 'em in week one. that will start the tailspin...
 

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I was looking at SD over 8' and Wash under 7', new orl over 7' a poss and cle over 4' seems like a decent shot....most look pretty much where I'd put them though....
 

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One man's opinion:

Jackson and Curtis are destined to become stars; offensive line
is improved and commited to protect Bulger; Wilkins will regain
form.

Easiest schedule in NFL -

Nine wins minimum and probably good play against in playoffs.

Best of luck whatever you do
MP
 

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kbhirsch said:
Here's how I see the Rams season shaking out

<TABLE class=yspwhitebg cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=0 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR class=ysptblthbody1><TD class=yspdetailttl colSpan=3 height=18>Regular Season</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/11</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at San Francisco</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/18</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Arizona</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 9/25</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Tennessee</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/2</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at NY Giants</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/9</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Seattle</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Mon 10/17</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Indianapolis</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>UGLY LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/23</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>New Orleans</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 10/30</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Jacksonville</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap></TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>bye</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap></TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/13</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Seattle</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/20</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Arizona</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 11/27</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Houston</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/4</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Washington</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/11</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Minnesota</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 12/18</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Philadelphia</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow1><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sat 12/24</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>San Francisco</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>WIN</TD></TR><TR class=ysprow2><TD class=yspscores noWrap>Sun 1/1</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>at Dallas</TD><TD class=yspscores noWrap>LOSS



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That would put them at 9-7. They could easily lose the Houston game. But they could beat Dallas if the game has meaning for them and not Dallas.

I still say Under 8.5 is risky but I hope you're right (since I have no $$$ invested in it).
I think Houston is better than STL, I amn not so sure if they can beat NYG on the road or New Orleans at home.
 
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thanks for the comments boys. i'm glad there are differing opinions...if everyone agreed, i would be worried.
 
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looks like i should have waited...the under is now +119. steamed the other way. hopefully it was because of the lions/rams monday night game.

stuck with it at 8.5 -115.
 
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I think this is a very shaky bet. Rams have the easiest schedule of anyone in the NFL for starters. There are several up and coming teams like the Giants,Jags, and Cards on their but until they prove themselves they look like wins for the Rams. Rams have also been money in division games for awhile. Here is how it breaks down for me:


Wins:
49ers twice
Seahawks split
Cardinals split
(My guess it they will win 5 division games though I forecast 4 )
Minnesota win (Rams own this team)
Saints win
Redskins win
Giants win
Eagles loss
Cowboys loss
Indy loss
Jags win
Titans win
Texans loss
I predict a 9-7 or 10-6 year with a lean more towards this record being stronger than weaker.
 

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