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Hey guys , I'm looking for some knowledge on Pedigree . When a Horse for Example Ride on Curlin has a 6th Generation horse name Princequillo in it's breeding compared to the fact that Ride on Curlin also has a 4th Generation Raise a Native in it's breeding as well . The question .. Do you guys look at the 4th Generation in Breeding more than the 6 th Generation in breeding as far as importance to the Pedigree ?? I know , guys , just trying to learn a bit more .. Thx !!!! (
 
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Kaboom,

Don't know if you ever looked at this site www.chef-de-race.com , but it offers some interesting reading on pedigrees.

Take a look at the articles titled " Breeding Theories and Statistics" and " Does Pedigree Matter in the Kentucky Derby".

Also has some wonderful stats concerning the pedigree, dosage and such.....................Hope this points you at least in some direction.
 

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Kaboom,

Don't know if you ever looked at this site www.chef-de-race.com , but it offers some interesting reading on pedigrees.

Take a look at the articles titled " Breeding Theories and Statistics" and " Does Pedigree Matter in the Kentucky Derby".

Also has some wonderful stats concerning the pedigree, dosage and such.....................Hope this points you at least in some direction.
Thx 11 !!! Derby Time again !!! Last year I hit the Triple crown !! Amazing and very lucky year for me betting those races !! Really enjoyed your inside on the game and appreciate anything stat wise wise you can share !! Did you know that Wicked Strong's Parents did real well at CD .. Hard Spun finished secong in the Derby and Charasmatic won it .. You probably knew that , but had to share ..

Looking into Large Heart Traits this year , which I'm sure your familiar with , pretty cool read .. Thankyou)(&
 
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Thx 11 !!! Derby Time again !!! Last year I hit the Triple crown !! Amazing and very lucky year for me betting those races !! Really enjoyed your inside on the game and appreciate anything stat wise wise you can share !! Did you know that Wicked Strong's Parents did real well at CD .. Hard Spun finished secong in the Derby and Charasmatic won it .. You probably knew that , but had to share ..

Looking into Large Heart Traits this year , which I'm sure your familiar with , pretty cool read .. Thankyou)(&


Kaboom,

Yep, it's that time of the year again..................LOVE IT...... and congrats on your success last year................

Funny you mention Wicked Strong, as he is one of the horses which I really like this year................think he is going to 'eat' that stretch run up.....and I do remember Charismatic well, went off at 32-1 .......................very good payday and big exacta , of course................

That Large Heart Gene is something to look at, yes it is................Orb had the " X Factor " last year ..................when you get some more info on it and which horses have it let me know...............last year I think I found the X Factor stuff about 3 days before the race.............would like to have it earlier if possible.......................

..........On a historical note, the average size of a horse's heart is around 8.5 pounds.....................Secretariat's heart was over 22 pounds...............

Looking forward to your plays again this year.................be well
 

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The dosage index stuff is a great tool eliminating the contender from pretender Kaboom touched on the RAN line which is also a must if you want to be draped in roses
 

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The dosage index stuff is a great tool eliminating the contender from pretender Kaboom touched on the RAN line which is also a must if you want to be draped in roses
Yes bro I will take a long look at dosage , most KD winners have a dosage under 4.00 , but some have had over 4.00 and I think those were long shots .. Mine that Bird being one !!
 

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Kaboom,

Yep, it's that time of the year again..................LOVE IT...... and congrats on your success last year................

Funny you mention Wicked Strong, as he is one of the horses which I really like this year................think he is going to 'eat' that stretch run up.....and I do remember Charismatic well, went off at 32-1 .......................very good payday and big exacta , of course................

That Large Heart Gene is something to look at, yes it is................Orb had the " X Factor " last year ..................when you get some more info on it and which horses have it let me know...............last year I think I found the X Factor stuff about 3 days before the race.............would like to have it earlier if possible.......................

..........On a historical note, the average size of a horse's heart is around 8.5 pounds.....................Secretariat's heart was over 22 pounds...............

Looking forward to your plays again this year.................be well

Thx Eleven !! I'm already looking into possible entries that have the Genes passes on and have found many which have good pedigree and the X Factor .. I like looking at how the Parents of the entries have raced at Churchill Downs .. Just a small angle i look at . Ride on Curlin is interesting .. His dad won at CD Kentucky Derby / Mom .. is Storm Cat .. did not race much but raced and finished 1st and 2nd in G1 races .. ROC has a 6th Gen Princequillo ( known for the Big Heart factor ) and Nasrullah who is a very good Pedigree as well .. ROC also has 4th Gen Raise a Native and 5th gen Buckpasser in his genes .. Raise a native horses have done great in the Kentucky Derby .. I feel at 12-1 this horse might make my exotics .. will dig deeper ..
 

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Kaboom,

Yep, it's that time of the year again..................LOVE IT...... and congrats on your success last year................

Funny you mention Wicked Strong, as he is one of the horses which I really like this year................think he is going to 'eat' that stretch run up.....and I do remember Charismatic well, went off at 32-1 .......................very good payday and big exacta , of course................

That Large Heart Gene is something to look at, yes it is................Orb had the " X Factor " last year ..................when you get some more info on it and which horses have it let me know...............last year I think I found the X Factor stuff about 3 days before the race.............would like to have it earlier if possible.......................

..........On a historical note, the average size of a horse's heart is around 8.5 pounds.....................Secretariat's heart was over 22 pounds...............

Looking forward to your plays again this year.................be well

No shit! almost 3x average, very interesting stat
 

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