Seriously, one question for the liberals.

[GasMan]

Please do not turn this into your a fraud, purple lilac, 0-7, poker loser thread.

I want a serious answer to this simple question.

Why do you oppose Trump's stance on halting immigration of people from Muslim countries who are known for terror, and/or why do you support the fact that Hillary wants to bring tens to hundreds of thousands more to our country?

Very simple, complicated answers welcome.

Might as well get some conservatives answers to this question to, albeit the opposite frame.

 

[vitterd]

I don't oppose the temporary ban and have said so already. I know it doesn't represent the liberal view.....but the world is a crazy place right now. A temp ban is probably the right move at this point.

 

[ShotgunPete]

My biggest issue is the fact we have veterans that are homeless while bringing in people from other countries and giving them everything.
We are 20 Trillion dollars in debt and cannot afford anymore.
The biggest issue is the fact we have no idea who some of these people are and what their ultimate goal is.

 

[SheriffJoe]

My biggest issue is the fact we have veterans that are homeless while bringing in people from other countries and giving them everything.
We are 20 Trillion dollars in debt and cannot afford anymore.
The biggest issue is the fact we have no idea who some of these people are and what their ultimate goal is.

It is absolutely insane and I can't believe people aren't rioting over this.

 

[ScottL]

Went back and forth on this one for a bit but definitely want restrictions on immigration until our screening processes improve substantially. And not just for islamic extremists. I don't want anyone allowed to enter this country from here on out who is not coming with the specific aim of becoming an American. That means you don't get to come here and sponge off the rest of us while you start your own little welfare enclave and refuse to assimilate to our American way of life. If you want No Go Zones then you No Come Here!

 

[wabashwonders]

Went back and forth on this one for a bit but definitely want restrictions on immigration until our screening processes improve substantially. And not just for islamic extremists. I don't want anyone allowed to enter this country from here on out who is not coming with the specific aim of becoming an American. That means you don't get to come here and sponge off the rest of us while you start your own little welfare enclave and refuse to assimilate to our American way of life. If you want No Go Zones then you No Come Here!

Agree with this 100%.

 

[MantisToboggan]

Went back and forth on this one for a bit but definitely want restrictions on immigration until our screening processes improve substantially. And not just for islamic extremists. I don't want anyone allowed to enter this country from here on out who is not coming with the specific aim of becoming an American. That means you don't get to come here and sponge off the rest of us while you start your own little welfare enclave and refuse to assimilate to our American way of life. If you want No Go Zones then you No Come Here!

This is a good post.

 

[Willie99]

there's a legal process for entering our country, I suggest we enforce the law of the land and we not make decisions in haste that can adversely impact us

we give more to the world than any other nation, maybe more than everyone else combined

we don't have to open borders to be a compassionate country, we need to think and act responsibly

immigration, like everything else under Obama, becomes a wedge issue he uses to mold minds, it's just wrong



we were a great and compassionate and successful nation long before his great great great great great great grandparents even met, we don't need for him to force anymore of his "fundamental changes" down our throats, especially since he's simply not worthy of such responsibility

 

[hehateme82]

Went back and forth on this one for a bit but definitely want restrictions on immigration until our screening processes improve substantially. And not just for islamic extremists. I don't want anyone allowed to enter this country from here on out who is not coming with the specific aim of becoming an American. That means you don't get to come here and sponge off the rest of us while you start your own little welfare enclave and refuse to assimilate to our American way of life. If you want No Go Zones then you No Come Here!

I'd say this post is strong to quite strong.

 

[russ1945]

What is the reasoning for bringing all these immigrants in at this point and time? It damned sure is not to make this a better country and to protect it's citizens. Shotgun Pete is right, we even treat illegals as good or better than we do our veterans. There should be no such thing as a homeless veteran.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

What is the reasoning for bringing all these immigrants in at this point and time? It damned sure is not to make this a better country and to protect it's citizens. Shotgun Pete is right, we even treat illegals as good or better than we do our veterans. There should be no such thing as a homeless veteran.

C’mon Russ you know the answer. To increase the Democratic voting base. There is no other reason.

 

[russ1945]

C’mon Russ you know the answer. To increase the Democratic voting base. There is no other reason.

Of course I know that and that is why I am pointing it out. Everything he does hurts this country though...big time. Everything Obama does has a reason and it is all about bringing this country down. The increase in our national debt tells it all and they are wasting money all over the place and on immigrants to boot. Politics is ruining our country and there is no such thing as political correctness.

 

[GasMan]

I'd say this post is strong to quite strong.

Hows your portfolio Focker?

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Of course I know that and that is why I am pointing it out. Everything he does hurts this country though...big time. Everything Obama does has a reason and it is all about bringing this country down. The increase in our national debt tells it all and they are wasting money all over the place and on immigrants to boot. Politics is ruining our country and there is no such thing as political correctness.

After his kids finish school Obama will go into a state of deep depression because he no longer will be useful to the Democratic party. I can see him leaving the country to become King of Kenya at that point.

 

[SheriffJoe]

After his kids finish school Obama will go into a state of deep depression because he no longer will be useful to the Democratic party. I can see him leaving the country to become King of Kenya at that point.

Homecoming party?

 

[vitterd]

Hows your portfolio Focker?

Lmao

love that movie. Fucking cracks me up

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Homecoming party?

That’s one way to look at it. Another would be he could put his community organizing skills to use bettering the living conditions there. Kind of like habitat for humanity Obama style. I mean he can’t possibly do any worse than Altgeld Gardens.


He could build a mansion in Nairobi and commute to the villages every day.

 

[TomGshotput]

One problem with his position is that it allows him to hide from the question about what to do with American born Muslims, like the shooter in Florida.

Another issue is that last year he says he wants "total and complete shutdown" now this year he turns around and says he only wants it "temporary." He's playing both sides.

Any references about Hillary saying she wants 100,000 terrorists to come here?

 

[Albatross]

Decent discussion in the cellar. Looks like everyone can get along. Cheers!

 

[ScottL]

Went back and forth on this one for a bit but definitely want restrictions on immigration until our screening processes improve substantially. And not just for islamic extremists. I don't want anyone allowed to enter this country from here on out who is not coming with the specific aim of becoming an American. That means you don't get to come here and sponge off the rest of us while you start your own little welfare enclave and refuse to assimilate to our American way of life. If you want No Go Zones then you No Come Here!