Seattle vs NE..... interesting angle

[PeePee]

Copied elsewhere... thought it's interesting

[FONT=&quot]Gamblers are always looking for hidden angles that will give them an edge. When I used to gamble, I always looked for a psychological one (and one the public was not aware, or using to decide which side to bet on, because those often factor into a line). This Sunday night, the Seahawks look to avenge their loss against the team that stole the SB from them. That game was one of the final nails in my gambling coffin. Despite what my friend Summa will say, Seattle was the correct bet in that game, they are up by 10 in the 2nd half and had they handed the ball to Lynch on the goal line they would have won (no ifs, ands, or buts about it). But the the tried and true “revenge angle” is not the most important psychological angle for this game (though it is certainly a factor); instead, it is the political one.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]One of the things coaches hate most before a big game (or any game) is a distraction. The other thing they hate most is a distraction that is also divisive (or pits teammates against each other and/or even a coach). Well, in the irony of ironies, the coach who handles distractions and divisiveness probably better than anybody (by keeping it out of his locker room), has contribute to creating a potentially distracting, divisive situation for his team by backing Donald Trump for president. And why is his support of Donald Trump distracting and divisive for his team? Well, unless you’ve had your head in the sand, you should know that this election has racially divided the nation, and that division also exists in every NFL locker room (and has even spilled onto the field, with some black players refusing to stand for the anthem):[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Several black players with whom B/R spoke saved some of their anger for Patriots coach Bill Belichick, who wrote a letter of support to Trump, who then read the letter at a rally on the eve of the election. Belichick defended writing the note, saying it wasn't politically motivated and was penned because Trump was a friend.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]But some of the black players I spoke with said they didn't understand how black players on the Patriots weren't enraged with Belichick. Or with Tom Brady, who Trump said supported his candidacy.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]"Very disappointed in [Belichick]," one player said. "I thought he was better than that."[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot](One aside: In my time covering the league, Belichick has been one of the most open-minded men I've ever known. Yet in various front offices around the league, there was surprise he so publicly endorsed Trump.)[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]What’s more, Trump read Bill’s letter to the public (which I’m sure did not make Bill happy). In other words, Bill can say what he wants, but everyone, including his black players, know he supported a candidate that is a racist and/or has made racist remarks (not the least of which was the racist undertone of the birther movement):[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]‘Congratulations on a tremendous campaign,'” Trump quoted Belichick as writing, adding:[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]“You have dealt with an unbelievable slanted and negative media and have come out beautifully. You proved to be the ultimate competitor and fighter. Your leadership is amazing. I have always had tremendous respect for you, but the toughness and perseverance you have displayed over the last year is remarkable. Hopefully tomorrow’s election results will give the opportunity to make America great again. Best wishes for great results tomorrow, Bill Belichick.” [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Even worse, Tom Brady’s also openly endorsed Trump:[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]“Great friend of mine, great champion, unbelievable winner,” Trump said of Brady at the late-night rally, the second-to-last of his campaign. “He called today and he said, ‘Donald, I support you, you’re my friend, and I voted for you.”[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Compare what Belichick (and Brady) did this past week to what another great coach did. Nick Saban pretended that he did not even know an election was going on (LOL). He also said that even if he supported one of the candidates, he would never be foolish enough to pick a side because half the people (including people he works with, players, fans, alumni) would be pissed at him. Or take what Jim Harbaugh did shortly after he tweeted that he did not approve of Kap not standing up for the anthem or his motives for not standing. He deleted the tweet and replaced it with something more innocuous like, “I approve of Kap’s motives and intentions but not the manner of protest.” And why did Harbaugh do this? Because he is a football coach and can’t afford to alienate an of his players and/or any future recruiting prospects. [/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Has Belichick’s hubris finally caught up to him? Does he think he can “publicly” back the most controversial, divisive candidate to run for the presidency without bringing controversy and divisiveness into his locker room? I don’t think so. To bet on the Patriots this week would be to bet against human nature. And would not bet against that. Of course, we’ve said nothing of the Seahawks, the team to back that this week. Well, let’s just say that I think they will be the more focused, cohesive unit this week, which should make a big difference. Last week was a huge look ahead spot for them: the defense sleepwalked though that game, making just enough plays to seal the victory. Knowing the Seattle players and team well, they might not just get revenge for their SB loss this week, but also get a small measure of revenge for losing their country to a man with racist tendencies, by taking it out on the coach (Belichick) and player (Brady) who backed him.[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]The Plays (though I’m not playing, as I am retired)[/FONT]
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[FONT=&quot]Seattle +7.5[/FONT]
[FONT=&quot]Seattle ML +275[/FONT]

 

[TomandJerry]

read and see nothing relate to the game, NE got this game done

 

[PeePee]

Not picking who wins tonight... but Capping NFL games are more than X and O... thus "any given Sunday"

 

[NYG4lifeNYK]

Thanks for the info haha although I doubt this plays any effect whatsoever in this game. Gotta love all the info an angles people come up with lol

 

[BillBillo]

Thanks for the info and it is indeed an interesting angle.

However I completely disagree this angle will have any weighting on the games outcome whatsoever regardless of who wins. Belichick has already sent a clear message to players who aren't performing, especially those with attitude/effort problems with the Collins trade. The player would have to be a real moron who is not motivated to continue playing with the Patriots to suddenly stop 'playing as hard' because of some completely external factor. This point is only exaggerated with Kapernicks moronic behaviour along with his subsequent further spiral down the toilet.

Honestly I don't believe this election outcome is as decisive as the mainstream media and a bunch of punk kids who don't respect any american values/democratic process are making it out to be. In fact, players and people in general don't have to agree but should respect others right to their own views and opinions. To suggest some individuals would change their own behavior because someone else doesn't agree with them is the cornerstone of brat children.

This will have no bearing on the outcome, the players will play hard.

 

[BillBillo]

double post

 

[BillBillo]

Thanks for the info and it is indeed an interesting angle.

However I completely disagree this angle will have any weighting on the games outcome whatsoever regardless of who wins. Belichick has already sent a clear message to players who aren't performing, especially those with attitude/effort problems with the Collins trade. The player would have to be a real moron who is not motivated to continue playing with the Patriots to suddenly stop 'playing as hard' because of some completely external factor. This point is only exaggerated with Kapernicks moronic behaviour along with his subsequent further spiral down the toilet.

Honestly I don't believe this election outcome is as decisive as the mainstream media and a bunch of punk kids who don't respect any american values/democratic process are making it out to be. In fact, players and people in general should respect others right to their own views and opinions. To suggest some individuals would change their own behavior because someone else doesn't agree with them is the cornerstone of what brat children would do.

The players will play hard, this angle will have no bearing on the outcome.

 

[ThaDude]

Thanks for the info and it is indeed an interesting angle.

However I completely disagree this angle will have any weighting on the games outcome whatsoever regardless of who wins. Belichick has already sent a clear message to players who aren't performing, especially those with attitude/effort problems with the Collins trade. The player would have to be a real moron who is not motivated to continue playing with the Patriots to suddenly stop 'playing as hard' because of some completely external factor. This point is only exaggerated with Kapernicks moronic behaviour along with his subsequent further spiral down the toilet.

Honestly I don't believe this election outcome is as decisive as the mainstream media and a bunch of punk kids who don't respect any american values/democratic process are making it out to be. In fact, players and people in general should respect others right to their own views and opinions. To suggest some individuals would change their own behavior because someone else doesn't agree with them is the cornerstone of what brat children would do.

The players will play hard, this angle will have no bearing on the outcome.

You clearly voted for Orange Hitler, so apparently you don't get it. Also calling people names for protesting then speaking of American values is hilariously ironic. The right to protest is as American as it gets.

I'm on Seattle +8. This election sure as hell affected my work week. You're awful naive to think it didn't affect theirs.

 

[BillBillo]

You clearly voted for Orange Hitler, so apparently you don't get it. Also calling people names for protesting then speaking of American values is hilariously ironic. The right to protest is as American as it gets.

I'm on Seattle +8. This election sure as hell affected my work week. You're awful naive to think it didn't affect theirs.

There is so much ignorance littered throughout your post I would need to spend 3 hours educating you.

First of all, I live in Australia and hence did not vote.

Second, You have been sucked in to the idea that Hitler was aligned with the conservative/HARD right when he is a product of the hard LEFT, he was a nationalistic SOCIALIST who believed in BIG government. Trump is a polar opposite on many avenues.

Third, the right to protest is fine however my point was about the hypocrisy and way they've gone about it. The very same groups who told republicans to 'respect the democratic process' throughout the last 8 years are the same ones who do not respect the majority vote in a manner that entails them rioting and protesting violently.

Fourth, clearly you need to find a new workplace because it sounds like you work with a bunch of immature children who are butt-hurt by a number of fantasy driven ideas such as Trump being a 'racist'.

Anyway, goodluck with your bet. Since this isn't the political forum if you would like to chat further feel free to pm me.

 

[ThaDude]

Donald, is that you?

 

[memphis]

Donald, is that you?

Shush()*

 

[varkeyboy]

Great stuff here!

 

[ThaDude]

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Patriots post-Trump election: 0-1 ATS and SU