SCOTT- YES OR NO DO YOU HAVE THE MONEY

[dimeplayersonly]

reminds me of that guy who was stalling a few months ago................

1. everyone will be paid
2. we hope to pay everybody
3. we wish we could pay everybody
4. we will pay somebody
5. maybe
6. maybe not....and so on........


i hope everyone does get paid...........especially since many people deposited money with this book........because of SHRINK'S accolades only........


i may be dead ass wrong when i say this.......but imo they are just using stalling tactics...to try to figure out whats in BETPANAMS INTEREST NOT THE PLAYERS...............why do i say this or how can i say this???????

because they arent acting like a shop that will pay........

i have been in thier shoes..(amount owed is a relative figure, meaning what i owed was significant for the number of players i had and vice versa)

no matter what they tell you........THEY KNEW THEY WERE IN TROUBLE WAY BEFORE THIS........i did and did something about it BEFORE my people couldnt get paid.......THEY DIDNT (betpanam)......that is a solid sign of deception......i knew my current situation wasnt working.......so i

1. informed players that no more action would be taken untill further notice......
2. informed them that they would be payed in full
3. other shops and players on a settle up figure, were told the same thing.....and were settled with at the current figure..

i was fortunate enough to have assistance, and everyone was settled with on time and in full......but unlike some shops who are able to get a loan to get out of a jam.........i knew i had to restructure otherwise the same shit would happen down the road........

i regrouped and learned some hard, humble lessons...

 

[dogball]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> may be dead ass wrong when i say this.......but imo they are just using stalling tactics...to try to figure out whats in BETPANAMS INTEREST NOT THE PLAYERS...............why do i say this or how can i say this???????

because they arent acting like a shop that will pay........ <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

Well said dpo

 

[SunDevil]

What will piss me off as much as getting stiffed will be when people come in here and defend Scotty (as they did "Fred").

You lie down with thieves, you lie for & defend thieves, you are a thief....especially if your lies led anybody to deposit a dime.

This is all prefaced with a big "IF" of course, but it seems more likely by the second...

 

[dimeplayersonly]

SUNDEVIL...........imo i think its safe to say EVERYONE hopes Scotty does the right thing.........so in the meantime they do defend him to a degree......ie. thanks for keeping us updated, you seem like an honest guy, ect....

 

[SubZaero]

Simple question?/?

I have a question for you DeNiro.... What do you do ih he says NO???
I bet you you will do the same thing if he answers YES...
WAIT TILL YOU GET PAID, right??
So i don't see the point of this thread...

 

[SunDevil]

DPO,

I hear where you're coming from, but I've always been a firm believer in an Eastwood quote from The Outlaw Josey Wales:

"Don't piss on my back and tell me it's rainin'."

My back is starting to feel damp and I think it's Scotty behind me...

 

[crazyivan24]

I just phoned PANAM...

And the lady said neither Bill and/or Scott is in the off (Definitely does not look good here).

And the lady said the payouts will be processed Friday LOL.

And the waiting game begins....why aree they lying to me all the time!

 

[SunDevil]

Ivan you have to understand, Bill & Scotty are very busy men these days. They have to get fake IDs, get plane tickets, etc...

I'd imagine your good buddy Marty is doing the same...

 

[G.MONEY]

IVAN

LET ME HELP YOU OUT HERE WE ARE ALL F*CKED AND THAT IS ALL THERE IS TO IT. IT REALLY SUCKS, BUT I SEE NO WAY OUT OF THIS..

 

[scott]

This Scott or Scotty are NOT me.....ScottyS

 

[jwunderdog]

We might just get paid yet, just be patient. You might as well be patient nothing else you can do to help the situation.

 

[Seymour]

What about the bond they posted up? This was just a lie?

 

[Moon88]

dime with all due respect i am not meaning to get into your business nor do you have to answer this question, but what do you mean with restructure? .....just want to learn more of this business thanks!

 

[BillDozer]

Its up to the players to decide who they want to blame. Scotty is the guy PanAm put at the gates so as much as it sucks for him he is their representative.

I'm guessing he is doing a lot on his own time becasue he wants to.

I would be more pissed at those who told the players these guys were behind PanAm when in reality they are marketing.

 

[go2guy]

"Standup guys with deep pockets!"

Yeah deep enough pockets to line theirs and take a long vacation....for good! Sorry to be bleak players but when you look at it besides being "standup guys", what incentive do they have to stay open after this fiasco? They must have a large "uninformed" base if they do. By the way, have you guys thought of the people that probably have been calling for the past week who don't use or have net access (more than likely have no idea what's going on) to get a payout. You think we've heard some excuses!? Boy I bet they've got so much $hit dumped on them, they probably could start a manure farm. I dare to say BetPanam has not been straight forward with those players when they are contacted.

 

[red007]

i hope we all get paid, but i have a bad feeling that the panAm website won't be up on monday feb 2nd and their phone numbers will be disconnected a la Aces Gold.

 

[natick48]

I'll repeat this warning one more time. In the Fall you'll be hearing about some new sportsbook with great lines, reduced vig, fast payouts etc. IGNORE THE SIREN'S CALL!

 

[bartybet]

unfortunatly it looks like you lost your dough. now if you actually do get something back it will be like a bonus.

 

[Boston1]

Red 007 et al.
I really do hope that you all get paid. I can't still really believe this is really happening to a book we really trusted. The reason I had a problem is because nobody came to our aid when we were stiffed by Little Nasa. Shrink made things worse in our case when his signature was forged on a contact that we were forced to sign. If we didn't sign we would have got nothing back from these crooks. Shrink did nothing to help us.