"Same" we can believe in

[pubguy]

ISLAMABAD, Pakistan – Suspected U.S. missiles killed 18 people on the Pakistan side of the Afghan border Friday, security officials said, the first attacks on the al-Qaida stronghold since President Barack Obama took office. At least five foreign militants were among those killed in the strikes by unmanned aircraft in two parts of the frontier region, an intelligence official said without naming them. There was no information on the identities of the others.
Pakistan's leaders had expressed hope Obama might halt the strikes, but few observers expected he would end a tactic that U.S. officials say has killed several top al-Qaida operatives and is denying the terrorist network a long-held safe haven.


http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090123/ap_on_re_as/as_pakistan_34

 

[Willie99]

"Same" we can believe in


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:lolBIG:

never mind Bush lite, we're talking about a double shot of those "failed economic policies"

but the believers actually think something is different

 

[punter]

Willie he said that he was going to turn up the heat in Afghanistan. Were you not listening?

 

[Willie99]

"Same we can believe in"

what don't you understand?

 

[fletchisrhsm]

Willie he said that he was going to turn up the heat in Afghanistan. Were you not listening?

Draw down in Iraq and put them all over in Afghanistan, sounds like the same to me. One less country, same amount of troops. Change is a bumper sticker.

 

[punter]

Going after the people who attack us on 9/11 rather than chaseing down a 1/2 trillion dollar rabbit trail is a relief to me.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Going after the people who attack us on 9/11 rather than chaseing down a 1/2 trillion dollar rabbit trail is a relief to me.

Taking a shit also works. :grandmais

 

[fletchisrhsm]

Going after the people who attack us on 9/11 rather than chaseing down a 1/2 trillion dollar rabbit trail is a relief to me.

:missingte

Right, because it was the Taliban who attacked us on 9-11, right?

 

[punter]

When last heard from OBL was running with them, yes.

 

[Willie99]

Going after the people who attack us on 9/11 rather than chaseing down a 1/2 trillion dollar rabbit trail is a relief to me.

seems to me al'q has been suffering some big time losses. I doubt Obama is going to me nearly as effective as Bush in shutting them down. That hear no evil, see no evil and be kind to your violent hate filled irrational enemies system hasn't be to effective in the history of mankind.

I'm guessing 0 for forever

I hope he can keep us safe from a domestic attack for another 2,500+ days, we shall see.

 

[punter]

5000+ days.

Oh wait you had already conceded 8 years. Thanks!

 

[betedgeonly]

"Same" we can believe in



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:lolBIG:

never mind Bush lite, we're talking about a double shot of those "failed economic policies"

but the believers actually think something is different

What are you doing to help out to help make change? beside's bitchin and offering NO SOLUTIONS OR POLOCIES TO HELP, IS there anything you can teach the govt. to do so we can all be as happy as you?????


edge

 

[Willie99]

What are you doing to help out to help make change? beside's bitchin and offering NO SOLUTIONS OR POLOCIES TO HELP, IS there anything you can teach the govt. to do so we can all be as happy as you?????


edge

WTF

:lol:

I'm living my life, not hiding in a cave waiting for a savior

PS: since I'm not a proponent of government solutions, I'm not a believer in the premise that government programs are the solution

 

[fletchisrhsm]

When last heard from OBL was running with them, yes.

:lolBIG:

So the Taliban was responsible for 9-11???

I don't think I've ever heard that before and I've heard some pretty absurd explanations for Sept. 11. I would ask Punter to withdraw that comment and tell us that he didn't really mean that.

It wasnt until weeks after denying any involvement in those attacks that BL finally said he did have something to do with them. Now lets rewind.... when did Osama's name come up after the attacks? Within hours, the media had its fingers pointed at the man. And getting back to my original point... the Taliban had NOTHING to do with the attacks, NOTHING. And we attack them? For the sake of argument and say he did what he was he now confesses to and did fund/plan 9-11 why did we attack Afghanistan? He isnt an Afghan? The Taliban isnt behind it, so it only leaves one other reason... they were a weak opponent we could be made an example of. And if they were harboring BL, with that rational... why not do Pakistan? We knew he was hiding out in Pakistan, why did we NOT go preemptive on them? Of course history is 20/20 but the truth of the matter is Obama is going to be following the same failed FP policys that we have endured over the last 8 years.

 

[ScottL]

I could refute the above post but it would take me an hour. Then you would yell at me and tell me I am naive and have a lot of growing up to do. Hah, joke's on you. I just saved 59 minutes!

 

[fletchisrhsm]

I could refute the above post but it would take me an hour. Then you would yell at me and tell me I am naive and have a lot of growing up to do. Hah, joke's on you. I just saved 59 minutes!

Real simple Scotty. Did the Taliban have anything to do with 9-11? Yes or no would be suffice.

A Bonus question...

Did the King of Saud or Saudi Arabia have anything to do with the attacks on 9-11?

 

[ScottL]

No it wouldn't. I said an hour! You ARE going to get that hour out of me now somehow, aren't you? LOL

 

[fletchisrhsm]

No it wouldn't. I said an hour! You ARE going to get that hour out of me now somehow, aren't you? LOL

Im backed up, so yhea...i will!

:hump:

 

[ScottL]

I'll say one thing about the Taliban and 9/11. 9/11 was planned and executed by a religious fanatic named OBL and his followers. Their stated goal is [their belief that] if they can murder 4,000,000 Americans it would be sufficient to cause the US to submit to [their radical version of] Islam.

The Taliban and al Queda share the same views. The world should be ruled by the caliphate, divided into sections where people live under strict religious rule. These regimes are brutal and the methods they use to rule their subjects are the same methods they employ to conquer the world -- murder!

The Taliban was asked to surrender the planners of 9/11. They refused. So we removed them. At the time Pakistan was viewed by our government as a country that could go either way. It still is. Unfortunately, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto has been assassinated by someone who lives under the same ideology as the Taliban.

 

[fletchisrhsm]

I'll say one thing about the Taliban and 9/11. 9/11 was planned and executed by a religious fanatic named OBL and his followers. Their stated goal is [their belief that] if they can murder 4,000,000 Americans it would be sufficient to cause the US to submit to [their radical version of] Islam.

The Taliban and al Queda share the same views. The world should be ruled by the caliphate, divided into sections where people live under strict religious rule. These regimes are brutal and the methods they use to rule their subjects are the same methods they employ to conquer the world -- murder!

The Taliban was asked to surrender the planners of 9/11. They refused. So we removed them. At the time Pakistan was viewed by our government as a country that could go either way. It still is. Unfortunately, former Prime Minister Benazir Bhutto has been assassinated by someone who lives under the same ideology as the Taliban.

So guilt by association is what did the Taliban in, because clearly your not advocating they had any involvement. And as far as Pakistan goes... they were harboring him as well and refused to "get him or bring him to us" yet we sat on the sidelines and did NOTHING. This makes my point and that point is consistency. Because we are not consistent in the geopolitical world, (this can be applied to foreign aide, to torture to wars etc etc) people automatically assume we have alternate agendas and that makes us no different then some slobs from Europe in the eyes of the world, not the beacon of hope set ourselves up to be.