Ron Paul on Rumsfeld, the US military, and standing armies

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Policy Is More Important Than Personnel

by Ron Paul

President Bush has been under pressure to fire Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, whom many view as the architect of a failed approach in Iraq. Even many ardent war hawks are unhappy with the Secretary for not having more troops on the ground in Iraq, and for conducting the war less aggressively than they would like.

But the issue is not who serves as Secretary of Defense, the issue is how, when, and why the United States uses military force. It makes no sense simply to replace Mr. Rumsfeld with someone else who holds the same view, namely that it’s the job of American soldiers and U.S. taxpayers to police the world. We should be debating the proper foreign policy for our country – utopian nation building vs. the noninterventionism counseled by our founding fathers – rather than which individual is best suited to carry it out.

I happen to agree with Mr. Rumsfeld on the matter of downsizing the military as a whole and remaking it to reflect modern realities of warfare. A swifter, nimbler military would be better suited to tracking individuals like bin Laden who do not operate under the flag of any particular nation or army. The war in Iraq shows that we’re trying to adapt our military to fit our foreign policy, rather than the other way around. For all our high-tech advantages, we are mired in a simmering urban civil war that does not play to the true strengths of our troops.

The old model of warfare, based on invading and occupying whole nations, is unsustainable. Both financially and in terms of manpower, America simply cannot afford any more Koreas, Vietnams, or Iraqs. Many people in the Pentagon understand that America’s armed forces are not trained in occupation, policing, and nation building. The best way to support the troops is through a sensible foreign policy that does not place them in harm’s way unnecessarily or force them into uncomfortable, dangerous roles as occupiers.

It’s interesting to note that our founders warned against maintaining standing armies at all, both because of the taxes required to do so and the threats to liberty posed by a permanent military.

Consider the words of James Madison, often considered the father of the Constitution:

“A standing military force, with an overgrown Executive will not long be safe companions to liberty. The means of defence against foreign danger, have been always the instruments of tyranny at home…”
Madison continues:

“Of all the enemies to public liberty war is, perhaps, the most to be dreaded, because it comprises and develops the germ of every other. War is the parent of armies; from these proceed debts and taxes; and armies, and debts, and taxes are the known instruments for bringing the many under the domination of the few.... No nation could preserve its freedom in the midst of continual warfare.”

In other words, Madison understood that large military forces can become the tools of tyrants, and can bankrupt the nations that support them. Instead of debating who should be Secretary of Defense, we should be studying the writing of our own founding fathers. Perhaps then we will question the wisdom of an open-ended, vague “war on terror” and the realities of trying to remake whole societies in our image.

April 26, 2006

Dr. Ron Paul is a Republican member of Congress from Texas.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/paul/paul318.html
 

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It sure seems to be that the Founding Fathers are some of the greatest minds ever assembled
 

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If men like Ron Paul had their way, Jews, as well as anyone else unlucky enough to lose “the perfect race” gene pool lottery, would have become archeological artifacts in museums, while eugenics would still be an accepted ‘science’ as part of man's 'evolution.' If men like Ron Paul had their way, the expansionist movement of communism would still be enslaving billions behind the inpenetrable Iron Curtain. The world collectively to this day, still carries many scars our ignorant, isolationist sins since WW I, straight through the 20th century. (Communist China as we know it today, is only one example.)

Even if one were to make the argument, isolationism would have made America a more powerful, prosperous country (as Ron Paul seems to be doing – which I would most certainly take issue with) America would have ended up surrounded by tyranny, with virtually no free market trading partners left to do business with. (Canadians would be speaking Russian or German.)

The 20th century became the bloodiest in human history because the forces of evil were taught that the price of aggression was cheap. The lessons learned, and the new doctrine which followed WW II, shared among peaceful, freedom loving nations, has been fairly straightforward:

Never again! (Or, as Ron Paul sneers: “the realities of trying to remake whole societies in our image.”)

Freedom is a natural, alienable right. It makes no distinction between race, culture or creed. God doesn’t employ border guards, and the greatest philosopher and thinker of our time - Karl Marx - answered only to his own ego.
 
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Smalll ....

and now we have some of the LEAST BRILLIANT MINDS behind the wheel of the USA BUSH TITANTIC TOUR
 

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Careful Joe, your stepping on the toes of those Peace Democrats, the Copperheads, who like to hide now and call themselves libertarians and are such vehement supporters of the RINO, Copperhead Ron Paul. These 21st century Copperheads hate Bush as Much as the 19th century Peace Democrats hated Lincoln. LOL

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A strong and active minority of Peace Democrats asserted that the Republicans had provoked the South into secession; that the Republicans were waging the war in order to establish their own domination, suppress civil and states rights, and impose "racial equality"; and that military means had failed and would never restore the Union.
Peace Democrats were most numerous in the Midwest, a region that had traditionally distrusted the Northeast, where the Republican party was strongest, and that had economic and cultural ties with the South. The Lincoln administration's arbitrary treatment of dissenters caused great bitterness there. Above all, anti-abolitionist Midwesterners feared that emancipation would result in a great migration of blacks into their states.
As was true of the Democratic party as a whole, the influence of Peace Democrats varied with the fortunes of war. When things were going badly for the Union on the battlefield, larger numbers of people were willing to entertain the notion of making peace with the Confederacy. When things were going well, Peace Democrats could more easily be dismissed as defeatists. But no matter how the war progressed, Peace Democrats constantly had to defend themselves against charges of disloyalty. Revelations that a few had ties with secret organizations such as the Knights of the Golden Circle helped smear the rest.
The most prominent Copperhead leader was Clement L. Valladigham of Ohio, who headed the secret antiwar organization known as the Sons of Liberty. At the Democratic convention of 1864, where the influence of Peace Democrats reached its high point, Vallandigham persuaded the party to adopt a platform branding the war a failure, and some extreme Copperheads plotted armed uprisings. However, the Democratic presidential candidate, George B. McClellan, repudiated the Vallandigham platform, victories by Maj. Gen. William T. Sherman and Phillip H. Sheridan assured Lincoln's reelection, and the plots came to nothing.
With the conclusion of the war in 1865 the Peace Democrats were thoroughly discredited. Most Northerners believed, not without reason, that Peace Democrats had prolonged war by encouraging the South to continue fighting in the hope thatthe North would abandon the struggle.
 
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The "hatred" for Bush deals with the obvious lies this CIC used to invade and occupy a country with no ties to 9-11 .. a CIC who blew off advice from Generals because of his "connection to God" and he left our kids in a shithole Civil War with no flappin strategy to get their asses out

The "hatred" is for a chickenshit MF who went AWOL over coke useage and sits behind his desk and shouts "Bring it On" ... a chickenshit MF who strolled onto a carrier and touted "Mission Accomplished" and that is basically when the fighting took off ... a chickenshit MF who laughs about not finding WMDs ... a chickenshit MF who has not ATTENDED ONE FUNERAL of dead soldiers from Iraq

The BIG MOUTHS on this forum and in this country ... why are their COURAGEOUS asses not over in Iraq???? WHY IS THAT SINCE THEY MOCK AND NAME CALL ANYONE THAT DOES NOT BACK A WAR THAT THE MAJORITY IN THIS COUNTRY ARE AGAINST ... WHY IS THAT?????
 

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Copperdoc,

Were not at war against a nation. Wake up little man, it's the 21st century now.
 

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