One of the most interesting things about Robert Kiyosaki is that he wrote a book in 1992 called "If You Want to Be Rich and Happy, Don’t Go To School." It is “dedicated to Ralph H. Kiyosaki, former Superintendant of Education, State of Hawaii, the best teacher I ever had.” This would be the "Poor Dad" character in his Rich Dad Poor Dad book.
But Rich Dad Poor Dad, which came out in 1997, says pretty clearly that Rich Dad was the best teacher he ever had.
So maybe “Rich Dad” was the second best teacher he ever had. No. Actually, the 1992 book also identifies the second best teacher Kiyosaki ever had as F. Marshall Thurber. F. Marshall Thurber He certainly doesn't fit Kiyosaki's 1997 description of "Rich Dad".
Maybe “Rich Dad” was his third best teacher. No. Kiyosaki’s 1992 book has an unusually long acknowledgment section. It lists 111 people, none of whom appears to be “Rich Dad.” That is, none are singled out except for his “Poor Dad” parents, in-laws, business partner, and editors.
Kiyosaki is a marketing master with some very expensive courses. They will be offered after you purchase his books and other front end products.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad contains much wrong advice, much bad advice, some dangerous advice, and virtually no good advice. It does say things people want to hear and believe, hence the sales success.
But Rich Dad Poor Dad, which came out in 1997, says pretty clearly that Rich Dad was the best teacher he ever had.
So maybe “Rich Dad” was the second best teacher he ever had. No. Actually, the 1992 book also identifies the second best teacher Kiyosaki ever had as F. Marshall Thurber. F. Marshall Thurber He certainly doesn't fit Kiyosaki's 1997 description of "Rich Dad".
Maybe “Rich Dad” was his third best teacher. No. Kiyosaki’s 1992 book has an unusually long acknowledgment section. It lists 111 people, none of whom appears to be “Rich Dad.” That is, none are singled out except for his “Poor Dad” parents, in-laws, business partner, and editors.
Kiyosaki is a marketing master with some very expensive courses. They will be offered after you purchase his books and other front end products.
Rich Dad, Poor Dad contains much wrong advice, much bad advice, some dangerous advice, and virtually no good advice. It does say things people want to hear and believe, hence the sales success.
CardFather's plagiarism brought to you courtesy of John T. Reed. An excellent site for looking into not only the hypocrite and liar Kiyosaki, but many other self-styled "gurus" of get-rich-quick.
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billdozer, i was thinking about your comment about being too lazy to read. I don't know if my problem is laziness, but my mind wanders so much as i get older, that it is almost impossible to sit down and read a book. I start thinking about who owes me money, why i lost that game by a half a point, etc. etc. In the old days i could sit down and read a book no problem. Now that is really an exercise in futility.
Aloha All, I just like to say that one thing that most people are not accepting or understanding in these books or courses are the simple idea which states several times that the only difference between rich people and poor people , or unsuccessful people vs successful people , is in the way they THINK. Yes , sound simple right. Well , it looks to be obvious , because it is. If you just believe it and use it , it can work, but all this success, starts in first changing the way you THINK.
Just for simplicity purposes, I will give you two examples of the differences in thought and let you decide from there. First example, is that Poor people see risk as a way to not do something, they fear it, and thus they avoid taking advantage of what it could lead to. Rich people on the other hand, see risk as a way to rewards. They believe that without taking risk, one cannot be able to take that leap to success or greatness. Just imagine if we all believed that we could not put a man on the moon, or if our ancestors all bought in to the idea that the world is flat, and the if you sail to the horizon, you just fall off the end of the earth. Just imagine where we would be if they bought in to this way of thinking.
Another example, which I feel impitimizes the difference in the way people think, is how people see and think about failure. Poor people see failure as a bad mark against themselves. To fail means to them, pain, embarassment, risk, danger, a waste of time, something that is not good at all. Successful people, see failure not as bad, but as good. Why, because they see it as a stepping stone one needs to take in order to reach success. You ever heard the phrase that the road to success goes first to failure. You need to fail in order to understand what you need to do next time in order not to fail. I like the ex, of when we first tried to drive a car that was standard. I think everyone can atest to the fact that they all burned out on the hill when they first start driving a stick shift. We were failing , but be went on , we learned how to not burn rubber. Now we can drive a stick shift with one hand on the stick, our knee stering and a cold drink in the other. If we just gave up on our first try, we might be still walking today. So you see, it may seem obvious, and easy , but to believe it and apply it is not. Change the way you THINK, and this could change the heights you reach in life. Remember, ALTITUDE IS DETERMINED BY ATTITUDE. Good Luck and Aloha CC
Just for simplicity purposes, I will give you two examples of the differences in thought and let you decide from there. First example, is that Poor people see risk as a way to not do something, they fear it, and thus they avoid taking advantage of what it could lead to. Rich people on the other hand, see risk as a way to rewards. They believe that without taking risk, one cannot be able to take that leap to success or greatness. Just imagine if we all believed that we could not put a man on the moon, or if our ancestors all bought in to the idea that the world is flat, and the if you sail to the horizon, you just fall off the end of the earth. Just imagine where we would be if they bought in to this way of thinking.
Another example, which I feel impitimizes the difference in the way people think, is how people see and think about failure. Poor people see failure as a bad mark against themselves. To fail means to them, pain, embarassment, risk, danger, a waste of time, something that is not good at all. Successful people, see failure not as bad, but as good. Why, because they see it as a stepping stone one needs to take in order to reach success. You ever heard the phrase that the road to success goes first to failure. You need to fail in order to understand what you need to do next time in order not to fail. I like the ex, of when we first tried to drive a car that was standard. I think everyone can atest to the fact that they all burned out on the hill when they first start driving a stick shift. We were failing , but be went on , we learned how to not burn rubber. Now we can drive a stick shift with one hand on the stick, our knee stering and a cold drink in the other. If we just gave up on our first try, we might be still walking today. So you see, it may seem obvious, and easy , but to believe it and apply it is not. Change the way you THINK, and this could change the heights you reach in life. Remember, ALTITUDE IS DETERMINED BY ATTITUDE. Good Luck and Aloha CC
A lot of people who NEVER read one of Robert Kiyosaki's books in the Rich Dad series seemed to somehow have an opinion on them or have adopted someone else's opinion, again without reading it.
I've read seven of his books, so I feel I'm qualified to weigh in. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone. I've recommended Rich Dad, Poor Dad to many friends and acquaintances and they've all gotten excited about the message he conveys. IDENTITY, you asked about richdad.com. Check it out for YOURSELF....form your OWN opinion. Phaedrus has provided a website that has a negative take on the guy. There are other sites and people that love his message. Which one is right? Read Rich DAD, Poor DAD, and find out for yourself. I'll make a mind bet with you that it will be well worth the effort.
Robert's message is one of hope...that people CAN reach their dreams and goals...and it all starts between the ears. It's not a by-the-numbers formula for financial success. What it does is give people the confidence to get off their asses and DO something...to start thinking.
People who haven't read any of his works,but yet comment on them is like someone who read a movie review and they think they're qualified to comment on the movie, even though they've never seen it.
As far as John T. Reed's McCarthy-like investigation (he even publishes records of proberty Kiyosaki owns), that was laughable. I'll take Robert's meassage of confidence and action over Reed's message of what a long, tough road it is to financial freedom. Reed's over-zealous personal attacks on Kiyosaki's character and integrity are IRRELEVANT. Christ could come off the cross and there would be someone to dig up something to cast him in a bad light. I wouldn't care if it was written by some asshole on death row. The important thing is his message. His message has helped me and several people who I know. I'll be giving out Rich Dad, Poor Dad as a stocking stuffer for Christmas.
Identity, you seem to have an interest in expanding your horizens. Start by forming your own opinions based on your own research. Don't go around assuming other people's opinions.
I've read seven of his books, so I feel I'm qualified to weigh in. I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them to anyone. I've recommended Rich Dad, Poor Dad to many friends and acquaintances and they've all gotten excited about the message he conveys. IDENTITY, you asked about richdad.com. Check it out for YOURSELF....form your OWN opinion. Phaedrus has provided a website that has a negative take on the guy. There are other sites and people that love his message. Which one is right? Read Rich DAD, Poor DAD, and find out for yourself. I'll make a mind bet with you that it will be well worth the effort.
Robert's message is one of hope...that people CAN reach their dreams and goals...and it all starts between the ears. It's not a by-the-numbers formula for financial success. What it does is give people the confidence to get off their asses and DO something...to start thinking.
People who haven't read any of his works,but yet comment on them is like someone who read a movie review and they think they're qualified to comment on the movie, even though they've never seen it.
As far as John T. Reed's McCarthy-like investigation (he even publishes records of proberty Kiyosaki owns), that was laughable. I'll take Robert's meassage of confidence and action over Reed's message of what a long, tough road it is to financial freedom. Reed's over-zealous personal attacks on Kiyosaki's character and integrity are IRRELEVANT. Christ could come off the cross and there would be someone to dig up something to cast him in a bad light. I wouldn't care if it was written by some asshole on death row. The important thing is his message. His message has helped me and several people who I know. I'll be giving out Rich Dad, Poor Dad as a stocking stuffer for Christmas.
Identity, you seem to have an interest in expanding your horizens. Start by forming your own opinions based on your own research. Don't go around assuming other people's opinions.
identity. i imagine you work for someone else, eh? making someone else rich? that is also what he speaks about, working to for you and making you rich.
i went to one of his seminars about a year ago, it wasn't the 5K one, but the $300 8 hour seminar. it was well worth the price of admission. it gives and over view of business, stocks and real estate.
basically what he is saying is, if you have the desire, will to do something, give it a try, dont be afraid of failure. failure is what most americans are afraid of today.
without risk, there is no success
i went to one of his seminars about a year ago, it wasn't the 5K one, but the $300 8 hour seminar. it was well worth the price of admission. it gives and over view of business, stocks and real estate.
basically what he is saying is, if you have the desire, will to do something, give it a try, dont be afraid of failure. failure is what most americans are afraid of today.
without risk, there is no success
Identity....That's great that you have a good job and make good money. Keep at it, especially if you enjoy your work. But in your free time, you can be aquiring assets that will take care of your and your family for generations. Start picking up rentals with a positive cash flow (if you haven't already), for instance.
Robert's message isn't to quit your job. It's merely an eye-opener to all the opportunities that we see everyday, if we only knew how to recognize them.
Start off with Rich Dad, Poor Dad. It's a quick read, not too technical, and it will open your eyes to some new things. Good luck.
Btw, didn't mean to come off as lecturing you. Just so you know, I lost a shitload of money in my first business venture primary because I wrongfully assumed that my partner knew more than me about how to run it. Letting someone else do you thinking for you is a wreckless way of doing things, as I found out.
[This message was edited by American on November 29, 2003 at 10:28 AM.]
Robert's message isn't to quit your job. It's merely an eye-opener to all the opportunities that we see everyday, if we only knew how to recognize them.
Start off with Rich Dad, Poor Dad. It's a quick read, not too technical, and it will open your eyes to some new things. Good luck.
Btw, didn't mean to come off as lecturing you. Just so you know, I lost a shitload of money in my first business venture primary because I wrongfully assumed that my partner knew more than me about how to run it. Letting someone else do you thinking for you is a wreckless way of doing things, as I found out.
[This message was edited by American on November 29, 2003 at 10:28 AM.]
