Republican or Democrat Convert

[Bitterlittleman]

How often do you hear of conservative supporters converting to a liberal supporter or the other way around?

Are people predisposed to one or the other point of view?

And which point of view is more likely to foster zealots?

 

[JinnRikki]

And which point of view is more likely to foster zealots?

Just look up zealot in the dictionary, you'll find a picture of a bible toting, flag waving Repunklican.

 

[PatPatriot]

Or you can go the short way and look up repubs to dems in the senate and house vs, 20 years ago.

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Michael Moore? Ward Churchill? Ted Kennedy? Nancy Pelosi?

 

[DarrylParsons]

Once a person reaches full maturity his values are pretty much determined and will remain basically the same for the rest of his life. Supporting one party or the other is about values so it stands to reason that would remain fixed as well.

Maybe the exception is a mid-life crisis when there could be a major values change, but that usually only happens once per person per lifetime.

If you were spoiled as a kid, you were probably liberal up to young adulthood.

If you were raised in a strict way, you were probably conservative.

If you looked back on your childhood and thought your upbringing sucked, you will have a mid-life crisis and switch. If OTOH you are cool with your upbringing, then you will have the same party preference for life.

 

[JinnRikki]

If you were spoiled as a kid, you were probably liberal up to young adulthood.

What a generalized pack of horse apples.

 

[lander]

Parsons,
What's the childhood experience that leads one to make ridiculous blanket statements?

I know what Freud would say

 

[DarrylParsons]

Oh, and if you don't like generalizations, misread "if-then" statements and take negative stuff upon yourself that isn't there, then you're probably liberal.

 

[WildBill]

My personal belief is changes come from the minority. Gridlock works best because both sides get heard and only good bi-partisan legislation comes to happen. When you have one side or another in charge the frustration factor drives people to the minority. It happened in 1994, people who were conservative leaning turned out the Dems who won just about everything in site in 1992. People were asking Rush what did he think, wasn't that a vindication that his views weren't in touch with the people. Rush said of course not, much easier to be on the minority side because you can blame the other side for everything they do wrong and you also get to see how when they all think they have power they all fight over which faction really should call the shots.

Rush hit it right on the spot back in 1994. Its going to go the other way soon. It is quite clear the best thing for the Dems was this loss in 2002. Look at all the harping the GOP does on its "mandate", yet the infighting has already begun. Some want tax cuts. Some want balanced budgets. Some want radical conservatism. It will cause them all to implode. With the country so clearly divided all it takes is 3% of those on the right to swing at least temporarily to the left and its a different ballgame. The best thing for the Dems to do is just stand back and pick their spots. Let the GOP bring itself down much of the time by getting out of their way. They can't blame anything on the Dems for at least the next two years.

 

[lander]

And if you pawn whatever random gibberish-of-the-moment spews out of your mouth off as fact, then you're most likely a conservative.

On the bright side, much of that same group can most certainly falsely convice themselves that their own ignorance is the will of God. If fact, He knew if would happen, but that doesn't mean we don't have free will ... just that we're created by a Creator with a future pre-determined by .. poop .. see, I was free to say poop ...
oh, poop .. did He know I would say?

My head hurts ... brb ... getting the ol' check book out and turning on 700 club for a few minutes.

 

[TheRightWing]

My personal belief is changes come from the minority. Gridlock works best because both sides get heard and only good bi-partisan legislation comes to happen. When you have one side or another in charge the frustration factor drives people to the minority. It happened in 1994, people who were conservative leaning turned out the Dems who won just about everything in site in 1992. People were asking Rush what did he think, wasn't that a vindication that his views weren't in touch with the people. Rush said of course not, much easier to be on the minority side because you can blame the other side for everything they do wrong and you also get to see how when they all think they have power they all fight over which faction really should call the shots.

Rush hit it right on the spot back in 1994. Its going to go the other way soon. It is quite clear the best thing for the Dems was this loss in 2002. Look at all the harping the GOP does on its "mandate", yet the infighting has already begun. Some want tax cuts. Some want balanced budgets. Some want radical conservatism. It will cause them all to implode. With the country so clearly divided all it takes is 3% of those on the right to swing at least temporarily to the left and its a different ballgame. The best thing for the Dems to do is just stand back and pick their spots. Let the GOP bring itself down much of the time by getting out of their way. They can't blame anything on the Dems for at least the next two years.

Repubs don't put any blame on the democrats but just want ideas which today are very few and far between for that party. I have said it a million times....instead of just saying NO,NO,NO come up with a suggestion or idea so we can get our crap done!

 

[JinnRikki]

Let's see;

Allow inspections more time to conclude existence of WMDs-Dem Idea
If you must go to war engage as many allies as possible-Dem Idea
Don't give away the farm(tax cuts) during a time of war and run up huge deficit-Dem Idea
Negotiate with the pharmaceutical industry to lower drug prices-Dem Idea
Do Medicare for 350 billion-Dem Idea... not oops its 500 billion then oops its 700 billion.
Don't let outsourcing weaken our economy and our future.-Dem Idea
Repair Social Security but don't send the only life support system some retirees have on the road to it's demise-Dem Idea
Find Bin Laden-Dem Idea
There are more but you know that.

 

[TheRightWing]

Outsourse economy?
Bin Laden is as quiet as he'll ever be.....he's nothing now...
Medicare and healthcare....are you saying conservatives are against this?
SS is up for debate other than the left says that the problem is down the road and conservs want to address it now?

What else do you have to say...I'm puzzled?

 

[919]

conservatives don't want to "address" the social security problem...they want to get rid of it....

 

[TheRightWing]

little strong on the "get rid of it" part but would rather have an option or addage to it cause were down to the cost of 2 /1 and the return is pathetic at best...
SS is ok for now but needs to at least be addressed on both parties, so the lame excuse I hear from the LEFT is until you stop talking about privatizing SS we won't talk about is a lame in my opinon!

 

[JinnRikki]

I'm puzzled?

You would have to be wouldn't you?