Redskins naysayers - did you know this

[russ1945]

This excerpt from an article points out some things about the origins of the Redskins name that is not convenient to liberal wingnuts. It simply does not fit their agenda and shows why political correctness is not a positive thing and is simply change for the sake of change to fit an agenda.

Washington Redskins owner Daniel Snyder told ESPN's "Outside the Lines" that he is adamant he doesn't have to bow to pressure to change his team's nickname because it's not disparaging to Native Americans but instead a term of honor and respect.
Snyder mentioned William Henry "Lone Star" Dietz, the team's first coach whom the Redskins were named after to honor his "Native American heritage," and Walter "Blackie" Wetzel, a former president of the National Congress of American Indians and chairman of the Blackfeet Nation, who helped design and approve the team's logo as examples of the positive history of the nickname.

 

[Acebb]

Russ,

these zealots don't care. What I find funny is that all of these people telling us what a horrific slur the word 'Redskins' is, are white.

Anyway, I thought this column was pretty balanced:

"I've talked to our students, our parents and our community about this and nobody finds any offense at all in it," says Tim Ames, the superintendent of Wellpinit schools. "'Redskins' is not an insult to our kids. 'Wagon burners' is an insult. 'Prairie n-----s' is an insult. Those are very upsetting to our kids. But 'Redskins' is an honorable name we wear with pride. … In fact, I'd like to see somebody come up here and try to change it."
Boy, you try to help some people …

And it's not going to be easy telling the Kingston (Okla.) High School (57.7 percent Native American) Redskins that the name they've worn on their uniforms for 104 years has been a joke on them this whole time. Because they wear it with honor.

"We have two great tribes here," says Kingston assistant school superintendent Ron Whipkey, "the Chicasaw and the Choctaw. And not one member of those tribes has ever come to me or our school with a complaint. It is a prideful thing to them."
"It's a name that honors the people," says Kingston English teacher Brett Hayes, who is Choctaw. "The word 'Oklahoma' itself is Choctaw for 'red people.' The students here don't want it changed. To them, it seems like it's just people who have no connection with the Native American culture, people out there trying to draw attention to themselves.

"My kids are really afraid we're going to lose the Redskin name. They say to me, 'They're not going to take it from us, are they, Dad?'"

Too late. White America has spoken. You aren't offended, so we'll be offended for you.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9689220/redskins-name-change-not-easy-sounds

These 'progressives' have a silly, bizarre obsession with race.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Once again we find ourselves giving useless people with way too much time on their hands, a platform to be heard.

And what’s worse is we are listening.

 

[russ1945]

Being from Oklahoma (and having been to several casinos run by Native American Tribes, I have never heard any Native Americans speak negatively about the name "Redskins." It is not even a topic of discussion quite frankly. That is a topic thrown around by the far left progressive pseudo racists. There is nothing offensive in the name, never was, never will be despite the far left. How come the far right never asks for name changes LOL.

 

[akphidelt]

Redskins can be used in a negative context but also a positive one. I love the Redskins and hope Daniel Snyder never budges off of it because of the whiny media and PC police. There is nothing wrong with the name.

 

[Albatross]

^^^Agree

 

[Well-Seasoned]

Anybody can cherry-pick any group or country and be offended if they go back far enough in time which is lame at best...........

The #1 issue is Immigration Reform and amazingly the government (Republicans and Democrats) still have not come to a reasonable compromise or solution on this issue as it affects other areas as well (including Healthcare obviously).........

 

[The Guesser]

I sure hope that evil Liberal Charlie Krauthammer doesn't get his way with the rest of the PC Police and kill a great name with a great tradition. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b11eee-374f-11e3-ae46-e4248e75c8ea_story.html

 

[Ttratter]

I sure hope that evil Liberal Charlie Krauthammer doesn't get his way with the rest of the PC Police and kill a great name with a great tradition. http://www.washingtonpost.com/opini...b11eee-374f-11e3-ae46-e4248e75c8ea_story.html

Liberal Rag

 

[The Guesser]

Liberal Rag

Yep, Charlie Krauthammer is just a raging Liberal. face)(*^%

 

[BleedingPurple]

Redskins can be used in a negative context but also a positive one. I love the Redskins and hope Daniel Snyder never budges off of it because of the whiny media and PC police. There is nothing wrong with the name.

I agree with this

 

[BleedingPurple]

Being from Oklahoma (and having been to several casinos run by Native American Tribes, I have never heard any Native Americans speak negatively about the name "Redskins." It is not even a topic of discussion quite frankly. That is a topic thrown around by the far left progressive pseudo racists. There is nothing offensive in the name, never was, never will be despite the far left. How come the far right never asks for name changes LOL.

Seriously this would come up for a topic of discussion? I don't know who would even bring it up at a casino but the casino's there maybe different than the one's here.

As for people saying the people upset are white is a little misleading. Go outside the Metrodome before and after the Redskins play the Vikes and the protesters are not white.

 

[russ1945]

Seriously this would come up for a topic of discussion? I don't know who would even bring it up at a casino but the casino's there maybe different than the one's here.

As for people saying the people upset are white is a little misleading. Go outside the Metrodome before and after the Redskins play the Vikes and the protesters are not white.

Well dumbass it is almost football season. This has been a topic of discussion for quite some time now. The main reason I brought it up is because of little known involvement some leading native Americans had in impliementing the name Redskins and that they obviously had no problem with it. Are you saying you already knew that? As far as casino's go obviously you have never been to one in Oklahoma. People here are friendly and conversive to include many of the Native American employees there. Many people are interested to hear how actual Native Americans feel about the topic, a topic which would not even be on the table if it were not for the far left political corrects.

Seriously you question why this would come up for a topic of discussion and then you mention protesters at the Redskins games. If it is not a worthy topic why did you respond. Duh Yes there is life without Obama.

 

[carlspackler]

I am offended by the word Vikings being used in the name of a pro football team. Are we really going to glorify a group of people who raped and pillaged their way across Europe?

 

[russ1945]

What is hilarious is the BP doesn't think this topic deserves a thread. Meanwhile check out how deep Obama got into this whole thing. Hilarious.

Patrick Howley
Political Reporter

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President Obama’s 2008 presidential campaign featured the word “Redskins” in a campaign video, despite his government’s recent decision that the name is too divisive to even be trademarked on T-shirts.
BarackObama.com posted a September 2008 video on its Youtube channelentitled “Lorenzo Alexander and Leigh Torrence for Obama.” The video, featuring players Alexander and Torrence offering their support for the Democrat at a voter-registration event, identified the players in on-screen text as being affiliated with the “Washington Redskins” and featured footage of the “Redskins” name on Alexander’s jersey.
Alexander explained that, “We got everybody on the teamto get together and sign up and register got all of the players in the Redskins locker room to register to vote for Obama.”
The question emerges: Why was Barack Obama’s campaign using such hateful, despicable rhetoric in a campaign advertisement? Why was the future president proud of the fact that men were wearing such a racist word on their shirts as they helped register potential Obama voters? Was that the point? Was Obama using the symbology of racism to inculcate anti-Indian sentiment among voters, creating a jingoistic effect that would galvanize footballfans to the polls in a frothing wave of cowboys-vs.-Indians vigor?
Sound plausible? No? Well, that’s what you would have heard from the left if McCain had done it.
P.S.: In 2004, the year Obama was first elected to the Senate, a poll directed by a former New York Times reporter found that 90 percent of American Indians were not offended by the Redskins name.


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WASHINGTON -- President Barack Obama says he would "think about changing" the Washington Redskins' name if he owned the football team as he waded into the controversy involving a word many consider offensive to Native Americans.
Obama, in an interview with The Associated Press, said team names such as the Redskins offend "a sizable group of people." He said that while fans get attached to the names, nostalgia may not be a good enough reason to keep them in place.
"I don't know whether our attachment to a particular name should override the real legitimate concerns that people have about these things," he said in the interview, which was conducted Friday at the White House.
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President Obama is Stripping Washington Redskins Trademarks After Owner Refused to Give Up Team Name

This is how the Obama administration rolls. Get in a confrontation with the president, and some IRS branch patent office makes trouble for you. That’s how “community organizers” do business. That’s the Chicago Way.
The latest example? After Washington Redskins owner Dan Snyder made it painfully, abundantly clear that he believes their team name is a tribute to their historic legacy and an honorable reflection of the spirit they aim to incorporate, a lowly patent office clerk just went ahead and cancelled their trademarks.
Mashable reports on this strange, politically vindictive, and probably illegal turn-of-events:
The decision from the U.S. administrator read, “…these registrations must be cancelled because they were disparaging to Native Americans at the respective times they were registered…”
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The move affects six registrations and was brought about by a petition from five Native Americans. The office found that “a substantial composite of Native Americans found the term REDSKINS to be disparaging in connection with respondent’s services during the relevant time frame of 1967-1990.”
As for radical activists feigning to speak for all Native Americans (check out this photo essay response to a recent anti-Redskins ad) as well as for the American people, Dan Snyder’s attorney Lanny J. Davis put it well:
“As a supporter of President Obama, I am sure the president is not aware that in the highly respected Annenberg Institute poll (taken 2004) with a national sample of Native Americans, 9 out of 10 Native Americans said they were not bothered by the name the ‘Washington Redskins.’
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“The president made these comments to the Associated Press, but he was apparently unaware that an April 2013 AP poll showed that eight out of ten of all Americans in a national sample don’t think the Washington Redskins name should be changed.
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“We at the Redskins respect everyone. But like devoted fans of the Atlanta Braves, the Cleveland Indians and the Chicago Blackhawks (from President Obama’s hometown ), we love our team and its name and, like those fans, we do not intend to disparage or disrespect a racial or ethnic group.
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“The name ‘Washington Redskins’ is 80 years old – it’s our history and legacy and tradition. We Redskins fans sing ‘hail to the Redskins’ every Sunday as a word of honor not disparagement.”
The timing of this move is pretty convenient for the president and is a classic example of both the distraction politics this administration is good for and the lack of seriousness of his administration.
This is clearly petty revenge served up by a president who has little regard for the law or respect for free speech. Just because you are “offended” by something, doesn’t mean you get to violate other people’s rights. This move is obviously less about the Redskins than it is about the president’s thin skin.

 

[russ1945]

Correction, there is not life without Obama. For him everything is politcal. My bad. LOL

Topics like this and his college professor and Trayvon are much more important than our border problems, Israel-Hamas, Benghazi (yes Benghazi), and all the scandals. He has his priorities don't you know.

 

[russ1945]

[h=2]Football[/h][h=1]UMinn president wants Redskins name banned from stadium at Vikings game[/h]Published August 07, 2014 Associated Press


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MINNEAPOLIS – The University of Minnesota says it is working with the Minnesota Vikings to keep the Washington Redskins' nickname from being used when the two teams play on campus in November.
University President Eric Kaler gave the assurances in a letter to U.S. Rep. Betty McCollum, a Democrat who has said use of the name would violate school policies on equity and diversity.





The Vikings are playing home games at TCF Bank Stadium the next two seasons while their new stadium is being built.
Vikings spokesman Lester Bagley didn't immediately return a call from The Associated Press. Bagley told the Washington Post the team hasn't made any decision on the issue.

 

[russ1945]

How nobody ever complains about the Cleveland "Browns" as a team name. Just wondering.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

How nobody ever complains about the Cleveland "Browns" as a team name. Just wondering.

It could be worse. They could be the Cleveland “Spics”

 

[rolltide]

How nobody ever complains about the Cleveland "Browns" as a team name. Just wondering.

well if you've been to the city it's just about the most relevant name you could come up with ... cleveland disasters, cleveland smog, cleveland burning rivers were the next choices