Rachel Maddow slams Obama for his Unconstitutional power Grab

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Its about time. MSNBC needs a Glen Beck type to pound Obama for his Anti-Constitutionalism.

People are slowly beginning to realize he's not a Liberal at all.
 

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Glenn Beck has definitely been impressive since has transition to foxnews. The only talking head worth listening to there.

Anyway, great to see someone in the controlled corporate press who doesn't play the game of pandering and blindly supporting one political party and their corrupt/criminal politicans.


Obama is another traitor piece of trash.
 

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Glenn Beck is a sensible guy. Somebody that just makes sense... Maybe a modern day Thomas Payne?
 

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Glenn Beck is a sensible guy. Somebody that just makes sense... Maybe a modern day Thomas Payne?

Do you realize that Thomas Paine was a secular progressive liberal? Probably the first great american liberal, radical at the time.
 

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He helped spur the American Revolution for far less crap than we have going on now...
 

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He helped spur the American Revolution for far less crap than we have going on now...

Sure, because he was against a religious elitist monarchy.

Thomas Paine was probably the original redistribution-of-wealther. He was ostracized as a radical liberal during his time. Believed in highly progressive tax, estate tax, welfare, minimum guaranteed income, free universal public education, on and on. If he were around today he'd make even radical liberals blush.

For example, Thomas Paine on (taxes and social security?):
"Separate an individual from society, and give him an island or a continent to possess, and he cannot acquire personal property. He cannot be rich. So inseparably are the means connected with the end, in all cases, that where the former do not exist the latter cannot be obtained. All accumulation, therefore, of personal property, beyond what a man's own hands produce, is derived to him by living in society; and he owes on every principle of justice, of gratitude, and of civilization, a part of that accumulation back again to society from whence the whole came.
This is putting the matter on a general principle, and perhaps it is best to do so; for if we examine the case minutely it will be found that the accumulation of personal property is, in many instances, the effect of paying too little for the labor that produced it; the consequence of which is that the working hand perishes in old age, and the employer abounds in affluence.
It is, perhaps, impossible to proportion exactly the price of labor to the profits it produces; and it will also be said, as an apology for the injustice, that were a workman to receive an increase of wages daily he would not save it against old age, nor be much better for it in the interim. Make, then, society the treasurer to guard it for him in a common fund; for it is no reason that, because he might not make a good use of it for himself, another should take it."

The Rights of Man is probably more leftist radical for the time than The Communist Manifesto was.
 

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He was anti-brittish crown too though.

Yes, of course, what's your point? That was a liberal value. He was for revolution by the common man against power, big supporter of the French Revolution.

Didn't Glenn Beck say we were a "Christian Nation"? I don't think he'd point to Thomas Paine as Exhibit A.

“Of all the systems of religion that ever were invented, there is no more derogatory to the Almighty, more unedifying to man, more repugnant to reason, and more contradictory to itself than this thing called Christianity”

-- Thomas Paine
 

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ok bad comparison, you win...

I'll admit I don't know a lot about Paine.
 

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Sounds like Obozo shit his pants after some real national security briefings. Not as easy talking liberal crap about how to keep our Country safe when you actually are THE MAN
 

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Liberal crap? So not jailing people without charges, representation, evidence, etc. is just a liberal position?

You morons make sick! You are certainly not a libertarian.


Sounds like Obozo shit his pants after some real national security briefings. Not as easy talking liberal crap about how to keep our Country safe when you actually are THE MAN
 

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