Question for experienced poker players

[bigbet1234]

As some of you know, who were at the bash last year, I am not the best poker player in the world.

I have been reading a few books, and playing some small stakes NL with Bodog.

Today, I ran into a hand where I was dealt K, 10 suited, the flop came 7H,7C,KD. giving me top 2 pair, but someone with a possible three 7's. One guy raises to 20, and the other call's as so do I.

The turn comes and it is a 3H, the guy that DID NOT raise went all in with $111.00. Beings he did not raise, and was reluctant to call on the flop, I put him on a desparate flush draw. They guy who intially raised folded his cards. I called the all in, and they guy turned a A, 8H.....in the end my 2 pair held up, and the guy that initially raised had the other 7 he said, but threw it away.

I was assuming he may have had the other 7, but called. Was I right to assume my top two pair was a decent call given the two 7's that came on the flop?

thanks,

BB

 

[Noreaga+]

need more info.. what was in the pot

 

[Jpasco]

Tough call, alot of hands beat yours any 7 beats u, kj kq ak beat u not to mention jj qq aa. The more i think about it that was a very tough call. A terrible fold by the guy with the 7.

 

[bigbet1234]

I was already in with about $24.

BB

need more info.. what was in the pot

 

[Noreaga+]

thats a tweener... what is unbelievable is the guy folding trip 7's...either he was lying, or he is a moron.

 

[bigbet1234]

he seemed pretty upset, I still cant believe he tossed them

i guess the answer would be, if i feel i got a read on someone, trust what i feel, and get rid of it??

*the overall pot size was a few hundred

BB

thats a tweener... what is unbelievable is the guy folding trip 7's...either he was lying, or he is a moron.

 

[Anonymous1]

think the guy was bs'ing you with three 7's...to me stupid play to raise into the original raise...i.e., going nl all in...what was his reasons for this...other than to make you think he was laying low to the flop...looks like he was trying to buy the pot or get you out at the very least...i think you were correct in the call with few in the hand although the risk reward on pot size was iffish...nevertheless nice win and nobody can ***** about that...

 

[bigbet1234]

the guy that went all in had the flush draw

think the guy was bs'ing you with three 7's...to me stupid play to raise into the original raise...i.e., going nl all in...what was his reasons for this...other than to make you think he was laying low to the flop...looks like he was trying to buy the pot or get you out at the very least...i think you were correct in the call with few in the hand although the risk reward on pot size was iffish...nevertheless nice win and nobody can ***** about that...

 

[pokerpills]

It's a tough call. First your kicker was a mid and if someone else was sticking around, they most likely got Kings also with a better kicker, at the least. You were fortunate on this pot or playing at a good table. You can correctly call a small bet but not a bet that was 5 times with what you invested according to the hand you had. That's my opinion.

 

[Dante]

thats a tweener... what is unbelievable is the guy folding trip 7's...either he was lying, or he is a moron.

agree....you have to respect the guy that raises but no one raised preflop..... maybe you should have raised a bit preflop got some of those suck outs out of the hand....you did get lucky no one had the 7, real lucky BB IMO

 

[pokerpills]

Whenever you call or make in all-bet for your whole stack, you should either be bluffing or have a strong hand. The hand that you had, with that flop, is mediocre. And you dont want to lose your whole stack calling with a mediocre hand. You will get thrashed in the long run. The guy that made the bluff actually made the best play in my opinion. You were fortunate.

 

[BowlMeOne]

Tourney, or ring game? What position were you in..as were they? Chip positions? All things that need to be taken into account. I probably reraise the flop. If someone comes over the top your done, but you need to find out where you are at. Just calling kind of leaves you in limbo. But the other factors are important, not too mention your opinion of the other players...and how they view you.

 

[JohnnyDetroit+]

1) the guy did not have a 7. if he did we would called someone on a draw in a heartbeat. if he did have a 7 is pretty stupid to put it nicely.

before you finally saw the cards, i would of put the guy who folded on a flush. unless he had serious money involved or the pot was worth it, fold the draw and live to fight another day.

the guy who went all in i would of put on the 7 because he would of wanted the person who might now be on a flush draw to pay for that final card.


i play about 4 sessions a week at the casinos here and gave up playing NL online a long time ago. pot odds, %s, etc is doesn't win in NL if that is all you do (which online is the main portion of what you can do). playing limit you might call something on pot odds knowing there is only X more they can bet. if you know a player and assume they might go all in on the next card, calling the turn makes sense but the river doesn't so you fold at that point because you know regardless of the river he is going all in. my opinion is reading and knowing the players at the table in NL is more important than %s because who cares what the odds are if you know what someone has for the most part. you lose that playing NL online. for example, 2 hearts on flop, heart on turn and someone looks at their cards. many times it means they have one heart and can't remember what card it is. if they do not look and are betting, good shot they hit the flush. if not, make them pay for that card. or if they look at their chips when the turn hits. you lose all of that playing online.

congrats on the win, but with everything that was out there i would of folded.

 

[Woody0]

Whenever you call or make in all-bet for your whole stack, you should either be bluffing or have a strong hand. The hand that you had, with that flop, is mediocre. And you dont want to lose your whole stack calling with a mediocre hand. You will get thrashed in the long run. The guy that made the bluff actually made the best play in my opinion. You were fortunate.

Sharp post.

 

[lostitall]

A good rule of thumb for NL- Don't call big bets with weak hands.

 

[pokerpills]

Sharp post.

Poker is my addiction. Hence my user name!

 

[Kiss1]

and the guy that initially raised had the other 7 he said, but threw it away.


BB

He lied