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Who did it better? Millionaire room full of experts or arm chair GM armed with just a note pad, memory and couple cans of Copenhagen. Breakdown of My Detroit vs Their Draft.

I pick 3 teams each year to draft for. This year 4 because I took SF and LAR since they had no picks except a ton of low rounds. Be fun seeing what you can dig up on garbage picks and one team good vs other team horrible.

It’s hard because you lock on to certain guys which may not make it possible in real life. if you do x what y and z do then. But I stay true and draft as players are available. It’s cool because sometimes you reach for a guy you see would have been there RD 4 instead of 2 lol. Shit is kind of tricky not knowing who will be there later when targeting players. It’s kinda weird not knowing, you get a trigger finger and sometimes you are way too early. Sometimes guys you like keep sliding and it’s beneficial. Plus it’s tricky because all the trading up and back you have no control of. Not too mention paying attention to 4 teams not 1 you get very little time unlike just one team.

Lions Draft.....

12 Van Ness DE Iowa 6’5 275 4.5 40
(Lions took Gibbs RB)

A 3 5 7 technique guy Versatility with a bull rush. Young but Raw. Kills two birds one stone. Getting inside help but a 3 down inside rush or outside rush. Just see too much Versatility and great partner for Hutchinson. I’d considered him at 6 tbh. Defense can really get creative with him. Gives help inside vs run and inside rush. Also gives wide rush and pass help. Not JJ Watt but same Versatility aspect. Just bit raw but freaky traits to mature.

18 Campbell LB Iowa 6’5 250. 4.6 40
(Lions took Campbell)

I was in the minority. I’d done the same pick. I’m way higher on Campbell than probably anyone. #9 overall player. Based off I just see a 8 year high quality pro bowl player. Shades of Luke Kuechely. I know Projection was mid RD 2. And passing would have been tempting to trade back up RD 1. May not be there may not find a dance partner. Drafted the player Over need at LB.


34 Mingo WR Ole Miss 6’2. 220. 4.4 40
(Lions took Laporte TE)

I can’t pass up what I think is the best all around WR in the draft. Deebo meets Brown just jet sweep, bubble, slot him or send him deep. Too good of a weapon to pass on. If ya can’t stop em on defense then out score em. This was a tuff pick. Lions should have taken Arizona 33 not 34. I’d probably gone Levis off the value. Or traded just as Arizona did. Passing on Mingo meant I’d target AT Perry RD 3-4.


45 Mauch OT N Dakota 6’5. 302. 5.0 40
(Lions took Branch DB)

Screams a lion. Versatility can play anywhere even center if need be. Great Guard piece. Can’t have too many hogs. Plug n play guard yet a great piece swing fill n play guy if needed off the bench. O line is loaded but injuries or they do have a guard wants big $ next year. Future piece also. Who doesn’t like nasty tuff blue collar guys. With no front teeth either! It was Mauch or Martin S/CB Illinois


68 Washington TE Georgia 6’7. 260. 4.6. 40
(Lions took Hooker QB)

Huge TE that is a 6th Offense lineman. Bit stiff but fast as fuck for 6’7 and has good hands. For team big on running it’s a great Two TE set piece or single in line guy. Good red zone threat also. It was hard passing on Sanders LB Arkansas. Such a freak athlete.

96 Ika DT Baylor. 6’3. 355. 5.4. 40
(Lions Took Martin DT)

huge two down Samoan Beef eater run stuffer! Eats up blocks and allows backers to free up. Has good little pash rush and motor. You gotta take the big fella off the field for oxygen though. But have we not seen what these agile massive samoans do? Sign me up fuck it!

152 Jones S/CB Texas AM 6’3 200 4.5 40
(Lions took Sordsal C William Mary)

No idea why he fell maybe injury. Had him rd 2-3 grade with Martin from Illinois. More versatility can play slot and has outside CB experience. Playing more in box safety last year. Super fast and big dude. Bit wreckless but can cover the slot and his size can matchup well with the bigger slot TE guys. Was tuff passing up several guys but wanted depth pieces on D and secondary wasn’t used yet

219 Trice CB/S. 6’3. 200. 4.5. 40
(Lions took Green WR UNC)

Had to add another secondary piece. Some good options at OL Broeker and Hayes good Detroit fits imo. CB Valentine and QB Duggan were tuff to pass up. I’d probably gone Duggan if had better feel of the team secondary. Maybe they have pieces they like and don’t need depth. Duggan been fun due to running abilities and screams a Dan Campbell type guy.


End of the day I walked away with big big dudes. And fast big dudes. Wasn’t a fan of Lions Draft. They shouldn’t have traded 81 instead two 150’s to Arizona. Should have made them pay a premium from 12 to 6 after that haul from Texas. It’s obvious they were dying to get Johnson ahead of Raiders or Bears etc.


For shits n giggles this is the other 3 teams I did. Lots of crossover same guys. Some way earlier than originally drafted)


SF Team Draft
85 Morris OT Oklahoma
99 Herbrig LB/ED Wisconsin
101 Jones OT Ohio st
155 Johnson S/CB Texas AM
173 Perry WR WFU
216 Kunitz TE ODU
247 Ricks CB Alabama
253 Bainivalu G Washington
255 Merriweather S Iowa

LAR Team Draft
36 Mingo WR Ole Miss
77 Simpson LB Clemson
89 Herbrig LB/ED Wisconsin
128 Duncan OT Maryland
161 Brown RB Illinois
174 Broeker G Ole Miss
175 Perry WR WFU
177 Jones CB Texas AM
182 Skinner S. Boise St
185 Duggan QB TCU
215 Kunitz TE ODU
223 Hayes OT/G Michigan
234 Trice S/CB Purdue
259 Ricks CB Alabama

*** This was fun drafting all these garbage picks trying to hit a gem and fill needs****

Texans Team Draft (Fuck that Trade stayed at original)
2 Anderson ED Alabama
12 Van Ness DE Iowa
33 Levis QB Kentucky
62 Sanders LB Arkansas
69 Downs WR UNC
109 Jones OT Ohio st
167 Perry WR WFU
201 Jones CB Texas AM
205 Kunitz TE ODU
248 Forsyth C Oregon

*** If not for Levis at 33 which I never expected it was going to be heavy Defensive. Didn’t think Levis at all at 33 a possible option. So had to pivot original game plan. Plucked a couple WR and OL because of Levis ****
 

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Thanks for posting all this info,you certainly know the college talent pool,I would really have No clue who most of the players in the draft are.Don t watch a lot of college Football.Which teams do you think overall had the best drafts?I know realistically it cannot be graded till years later, but with your in depth following of college players, just curious? Thank you
 

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Thanks for posting all this info,you certainly know the college talent pool,I would really have No clue who most of the players in the draft are.Don t watch a lot of college Football.Which teams do you think overall had the best drafts?I know realistically it cannot be graded till years later, but with your in depth following of college players, just curious? Thank you
No problem. Thanks for enjoying the chatter I spew out on the draft. Any team in particular you want me to check out lmk. Hard to cover all of them. Toss out 1-2 if want more information deeper look.

Based off teams having many to few picks and on need vs just taking good player


Steelers did very well imo
Bengals really well
Browns really well
Broncos
Bucs

Not a fan
Packers loaded with picks expected more
Niners loaded picks dropped the ball
Patriots never draft well yet tons of picks
Bears dropped the ball
Jaguars too many picks to many idk guys


Eagles crushed on limited picks! Forget the first two picks. After that value wise of draft position. They did well

Panthers toss out young. Not much to work with but did well

Miami no picks added 4 nice pieces

Lions I expected way more but still did good. Lions should have never surrendered pick 81 to Cards. Pick 150ish and Swift or Swift and future 3rd (they have 2 next year). Going to 12 if Gibbs was the play all along they could have picked up pick 112 or 120 going back to 15 or 17 with Jets or Steelers. Nobody was taking Gibbs before 17 and Pit and NYJ were desperate to get one of 4 OL guys. I mentioned several times before draft look for either to trade up to 8-9 range. Pitt eventually moved to 14 for the last premier OL guys. Jets got shut out.

Titans outside pick 81 did good. Love Spears but guy has no cartilage in a knee. Plus not a need. Like to have seen small jump up 4-5 spots for Hyatt or Tillman at WR. Or fucking AT Perry even if later. I’ll die in the hil this guy is good. I’d pulled the trigger rounds 2-3 late to early pending my team. He went round 6.

Tons of good to elite WR talent comes from round 5-7

Top head few guys
Diggs
Colston
Ty Hill
Gauge
Brown
Wilson
MVS
Slayton
Renfrow

Seattle did well late

Colts overall not to shabby
 

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I give you the Liions gm job. I'll give the Lions a D since they kinda saved face with Campbell. When these teams are close the draft can make the difference in a playoff run. A rb with the 12th selection that probably can't beat Montgomery out of a job and give away Swift to the team that could very well knock your wild card ass out
 

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You won't know the results of this draft until after the 2025 season has concluded.
 

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I give you the Liions gm job. I'll give the Lions a D since they kinda saved face with Campbell. When these teams are close the draft can make the difference in a playoff run. A rb with the 12th selection that probably can't beat Montgomery out of a job and give away Swift to the team that could very well knock your wild card ass out
Been saying that Swift Trade was dumb. To the eagles really? Send him anywhere but there for that cheap.

I was a bit disappointed in lions. I thought they could have really crushed the draft. Maybe they did who knows.

They gifted cards the 6th pick. Never should have included pick 81 to cards.

At 12 they could have easily gone to 15 or 17. Only one OL guy was left and Jets Steelers wanted him. Picking up a 4th rd pick. Nobody was talking Gibbs before pick 17.

I’d liked to have seen a young team on the rise load up. Really add the pieces to be a real player this year.
 

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Been saying that Swift Trade was dumb. To the eagles really? Send him anywhere but there for that cheap.

I was a bit disappointed in lions. I thought they could have really crushed the draft. Maybe they did who knows.

They gifted cards the 6th pick. Never should have included pick 81 to cards.

At 12 they could have easily gone to 15 or 17. Only one OL guy was left and Jets Steelers wanted him. Picking up a 4th rd pick. Nobody was talking Gibbs before pick 17.

I’d liked to have seen a young team on the rise load up. Really add the pieces to be a real player this year.
Youve got me convinced i should be betting on this stuff. Why not? It's a by-product of all that time we spend watching college football. Apparently books know theyre going to get beat that day.

A class that's not top heavy doesnt mean it's a bad class just that it's not top heavy. So maybe some gems were picked up later rounds, and that is to be determined.
 

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Youve got me convinced i should be betting on this stuff. Why not? It's a by-product of all that time we spend watching college football. Apparently books know theyre going to get beat that day.

A class that's not top heavy doesnt mean it's a bad class just that it's not top heavy. So maybe some gems were picked up later rounds, and that is to be determined.
Too many great odds on too much stuff. That move too much not to toss darts on stuff. The media and talking heads and rumor mills move the market way too much

It’s definitely worth betting on. There were silly long shots like Wright pick 8 79-1 or Richardson to Bucs 100-1. All stuff I threw bologna on the wall out never know. Johnson goes 6 Wright could have gone 8 then if Atlanta trades. Pit or NYJ probably tried moving up. If I’m Atlanta I may have moved back thinking it’s possible Robinson is there at 16. Nobody saw Detroit taking Gibbs 12 but I think Detroit thought Atlanta May move back or Robinson be there at 12.

Either way lots of stuff to bet great odds even $10 flyers. Believe 18-1 Johnson to Chargers 18-1 Jsn to Seahawks and 16-1 bills take TE 30-1 Johnson goes 6th were couple the bigger ones I got right. Just 1-2 hit all ya need if playing a bunch of props
 

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Youve got me convinced i should be betting on this stuff. Why not? It's a by-product of all that time we spend watching college football. Apparently books know theyre going to get beat that day.

A class that's not top heavy doesnt mean it's a bad class just that it's not top heavy. So maybe some gems were picked up later rounds, and that is to be determined.
Take Gibbs for example. He was +600 go round 1 and +465 I mentioned him. I get the RB angle rd 1 stuff. But he made too much sense for teams later rd 1 like KC Buff Dal Cin that you know Robinson goes too early to get and would bring these teams in the mix for Gibbs . Value was just way to good. Not to take advantage of something like that.

Wish they had odds not a RD 1 pick. I mentioned Mayer and Branch weeks ago not round 1 guys. They were chalked up rd 1 entire time. Mayer is a good player but not elite. Good at everything not great at one thing. Branch is a mystery position and slow for his hype. He was mocking up to 16 and I just saw media guys going off what they hear not what they see.

Mingo had good odds to be RD1 pick and I really thought he would be. He was ranking in the 60-80 overall player nowhere near rd 1. Ended up pick 41
 

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Take Gibbs for example. He was +600 go round 1 and +465 I mentioned him. I get the RB angle rd 1 stuff. But he made too much sense for teams later rd 1 like KC Buff Dal Cin that you know Robinson goes too early to get and would bring these teams in the mix for Gibbs . Value was just way to good. Not to take advantage of something like that.

Wish they had odds not a RD 1 pick. I mentioned Mayer and Branch weeks ago not round 1 guys. They were chalked up rd 1 entire time. Mayer is a good player but not elite. Good at everything not great at one thing. Branch is a mystery position and slow for his hype. He was mocking up to 16 and I just saw media guys going off what they hear not what they see.

Mingo had good odds to be RD1 pick and I really thought he would be. He was ranking in the 60-80 overall player nowhere near rd 1. Ended up pick 41
i agree Gibbs could easily go rd 1 just not to that team at that spot.
 

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i agree Gibbs could easily go rd 1 just not to that team at that spot.
Didn’t expect that either lol. I thought 21 at max highest

McDonald going 15 was just a big of a shock to me though.

I found almost no over under props on players. Past few years have had a ton.

Still great value out there ppl who bet draft
 

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