Prediction: Obama Introduces Evan Bayh as VP Choice on Wednesday

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Bayh is the only logical choice.

With some negative press lately and the calendar quickly shrinking, the time is right to strike with Obama in Indiana on Tuesday and Wednesday. He pretty much has to do it this week or wait until the convention, with the Olympics coming right up. Think it's better to have the VP in place so all the talk isn't just about the guessing game.

We shall see.
 

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lot of signs point towards it

i'll be glad it's not kaine if so
 

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Boring, snoring campaigner.

Won't be able to deflect the coming shit storm against Mr. "Community Organizer."

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I think there was a real split in the campaign so they kinda tossed Kaine's name out there as a trial balloon and it was widely panned. McCain team would tag Kaine as the only person who could have less experience and less accomplishments than Obama. Only reason to do it would be to snag VA and he's not even that popular there. Just would not be a good choice. Bayh is rock solid, if unexciting, which is fine, Obama has enough buzz himself. Bayh has a lot of positives:
- experienced campaigner
- helps unite Hillary voters
- has some foreign affairs credentials
- has a moderate profile
- is tested and shouldn't make many mistakes
- looks good in a photo op
- puts Indiana and its 11 votes squarely in play as he is very popular there
- should help appeal to rural and middle class voters
- should help in other midwestern battlegrounds like Ohio, Iowa, Mich, maybe Penn.
 

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We got about 12 weeks until GE?

Obama needs to select Evan NOW for the boost and ace the debates and it's a done deal.

Need a strong ground game in Ohio.
 

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Evan Bayh won't bring Indiana with him. His father would have. Evan Bayh is no Birch Bayh.
 

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Evan Bayh won't bring Indiana with him. His father would have. Evan Bayh is no Birch Bayh.

He may not bring Indiana in the end, but it certainly puts it in play and makes McCain defend where he otherwise wouldn't have. Obama (with Hillary) already have a pretty good ground game ready in Indiana and with what Bayh would bring, McCain would need to get his act together there fast. Obama would likely be able to bring out new Indiana voters particularly in the northwest and minorities that have never voted before. Could really make a huge difference in a fairly small state.
 

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Bayh is the only logical choice.

With some negative press lately and the calendar quickly shrinking, the time is right to strike with Obama in Indiana on Tuesday and Wednesday. He pretty much has to do it this week or wait until the convention, with the Olympics coming right up. Think it's better to have the VP in place so all the talk isn't just about the guessing game.

We shall see.

Agree!

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It also is a possibility even if Bayh is ultimately selected that Obama may just wait even longer and do it just before the convention. One reason being is McCain for some reason so far has decided not to have any organization or open any offices in Indiana. If Obama announces Bayh sooner rather than later then it maybe gives McCain more time to get his act together there.

See this surprising note...

McCain Camp Has No Plans To Compete In Indiana
Posted by Ashish on 08.03.2008

Obama will have the entire state to himself...

In a pretty surprising move, the Indianapolis Star has an article up on how McCain plans to not compete at all in Indiana. When asked if the campaign had plans to open ANY offices in Indiana, a McCain campaign spokeswoman responded with one word: "No."

The Obama campaign has already opened 6 offices with plans to open up to 30 offices. Obama is also running ads in the state.

Keep in mind that the latest poll of Indiana had Obama ahead by 1%. As Nate points out, it's a pretty risky move by McCain to say the least, and surprising because McCain is taking Obama seriously in a state like Virginia. Indiana is not somewhat insignificant in terms of the electoral college as, say, North Dakota might be. Indiana has 11 electoral votes which makes it one of the larger swing states (if you classify it as such). To ignore it is pretty dangerous. For example, if Obama holds on to the Kerry states as most expect him to do, all he would have to do to get to 270 is win Iowa and Indiana (252+7+11=270). And let's not forget that Obama may pick popular Indiana Senator Evan Bayh as his VP and that would further strengthen him in the state.

I understand McCain's view on states like Montana and North Dakota. They aren't big enough to really change the outcome of the election. Plus, if he loses a state like Montana, he is probably losing the entire election anyway, so no real reason to compete there. But Indiana isn't like that. With such a huge organizational advantage there, he could probably win Indiana without overperforming by any significant margin in other red states, not to mention if he picks Bayh as his VP.

We now have a situation where Obama has Montana, North Dakota, South Dakota, and Indiana, four red states that are all looking like swing states this year, to himself. In the primaries, Obama won huge in states Hillary Clinton ignored, and ignoring so many states ultimately ended up costing Clinton the nomination. MT, ND, SD, and IN combine for 20 electoral votes, more than Michigan, Wisconsin, Missouri, Virginia, New Mexico, Colorado, Nevada, and the same as Ohio. It's a big chunk of states to ignore and could come back to bite McCain.
 

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If it's Bayh

won't be announced today

guess we're going into the olympics without a VP from either side
 

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McCain is going to announce after Obama, because he can.
 

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yeah obama will have a 10 day window it looks like after the olympics
 

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y probably not happening till after olympics bayh still only 30% at intrade

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Boring is good. Much better than being terrified, like for the last 7 1/2 years.
 

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Boring is good. Much better than being terrified, like for the last 7 1/2 years.

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Yeah, I think he's decided to wait and probably a good idea. Obama doesn't need the buzz now and why give your opponent more information before you really need to. If he's going to name Bayh, wait as long as possible because McCain has 0 organization in Indiana and the longer he waits the harder it becomes to get that started. If he picks Bayh now, McCain knows he would have to start working there. If he waits until the convention then McCain has basically only 2 months to get his act together.

You can say what you want about Obama, but he proved in the primaries that he is surrounded by some damn fine advisors and a good organization and ground game that put together a tremendous strategic primary strategy and they will work to do the same in the general. McCain on the other hand had many stumbles and won almost more by default than anything else.

Don't underestimate behind the scenes manuevering and strategy (and I don't mean anything illegal or anything like that).
 

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You can say what you want about Obama, but he proved in the primaries that he is surrounded by some damn fine advisors and a good organization and ground game that put together a tremendous strategic primary strategy and they will work to do the same in the general.

Don't underestimate behind the scenes manuevering and strategy.


agree 100%
 

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