once again - i stop banging my head against the wall long enough to post this
College Football + Teasers = STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
whatever book you played this at - trust me - they are thanking you for making such a dumb bet!
if you want us to congratulate you i will - congrats on making a DUMB BET!
hope you are happy you cost yourself a lot of money once all is said and done!
College Football + Teasers = STOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOPID!
whatever book you played this at - trust me - they are thanking you for making such a dumb bet!
if you want us to congratulate you i will - congrats on making a DUMB BET!
hope you are happy you cost yourself a lot of money once all is said and done!
thanks for your stuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuupid input but i don't need your advice.
i know they ae sucker bet, what isn't.
in teaser number two are three teams from a system that is over 90%, and the other two teams are in a undefeated system for the year, so to add points in the number ten seem pretty damn easy.
if it loses you are more than welcome to hit this thread as hard as you want.
ok
i know they ae sucker bet, what isn't.
in teaser number two are three teams from a system that is over 90%, and the other two teams are in a undefeated system for the year, so to add points in the number ten seem pretty damn easy.
if it loses you are more than welcome to hit this thread as hard as you want.
ok
I highly recommend road dogs with the favs either coming off a big game or going into a big game. You don't see too many 40+ victories in conference play.
I would recommend Central Michigan, Wyoming, Arizona for starters. Don't tease down if possible and don't cross from a fav to a dog.
My 4-teamer from Oly (12 points/pro, 14 points/college):
Rams/49ers over 32
Toledo pk over Western Mich (They own Broncs)
Minnesota + 20 at Michigan
Tenn + 27 at Georgia
Nice thing is, the Toledo game is a later starting game so I can hedge some if I have to.
I am literally hitting 75% this year on these.
I would recommend Central Michigan, Wyoming, Arizona for starters. Don't tease down if possible and don't cross from a fav to a dog.
My 4-teamer from Oly (12 points/pro, 14 points/college):
Rams/49ers over 32
Toledo pk over Western Mich (They own Broncs)
Minnesota + 20 at Michigan
Tenn + 27 at Georgia
Nice thing is, the Toledo game is a later starting game so I can hedge some if I have to.
I am literally hitting 75% this year on these.
Teasers Are $$ If Done Right!!
2 yrs ago I found myself betting more & more teasers. I KNOW these are sucker bets for the most part. So started betting mostly 2 tm 6pt w/a bk that is 1 to 1. The best way to use them is with the NFL as these lines are more precise and more likely to be skewed w/a + or - of 6. Also KEY is how you use them NEVER cross the line i.e. going from - 3.5 to + 2.5, use the prime #`s of 3, 4, 6, & 7 if possible. Ideally taking a dog from +2.5 to + 8.5, conversly a chalk from -7.5 to - 1.5. So far this yr I`m 11-3 in the NFL. And NO JUICE!! The problem w/using larger # of tms especially in CFB is one I ran into 2 wks ago. Just for fun I bet a small amount 23 bucks I think on a 5 teamer, well I won about 250 I think. The down side ALL 5 won SU for about 1300. That`s one of the things I have to guard against i.e betting too many teasers and ignoring straight bets! There are just times when for whatever reason you don`t get the best # when it first comes out this wk Pur is a good example also UAB. If you like em take Pur. -6.5 & UAB to 6. Anyway best of luck to all.
2 yrs ago I found myself betting more & more teasers. I KNOW these are sucker bets for the most part. So started betting mostly 2 tm 6pt w/a bk that is 1 to 1. The best way to use them is with the NFL as these lines are more precise and more likely to be skewed w/a + or - of 6. Also KEY is how you use them NEVER cross the line i.e. going from - 3.5 to + 2.5, use the prime #`s of 3, 4, 6, & 7 if possible. Ideally taking a dog from +2.5 to + 8.5, conversly a chalk from -7.5 to - 1.5. So far this yr I`m 11-3 in the NFL. And NO JUICE!! The problem w/using larger # of tms especially in CFB is one I ran into 2 wks ago. Just for fun I bet a small amount 23 bucks I think on a 5 teamer, well I won about 250 I think. The down side ALL 5 won SU for about 1300. That`s one of the things I have to guard against i.e betting too many teasers and ignoring straight bets! There are just times when for whatever reason you don`t get the best # when it first comes out this wk Pur is a good example also UAB. If you like em take Pur. -6.5 & UAB to 6. Anyway best of luck to all.
ok - now that the weekend is done - let's see how those teasers did - as well as see how the picks turned out WITHOUT teasing them:
truely's 2 10-point teasers that cost him -120:
teaser one
smiss -7
virg -6
auburn -15-
***So Miss kills this teaser - a game he would have lost w/o teasing anyway
########################
teaser two
wash st +6-
idaho +12
utah st +11
***A winner by teasing - a loser by NOT teasing
########################
teaser three
Adding A Four Teamer +13
130 To Win 100.
Smiss -4-
Virg -3-
Utah +2-
Auburn -13
***once again - a winner by teasing - a loser by not teasing.
so for truely - he went 2-1 teasing for a +0.80 unit profit - which would have been -3.00 units w/o teasing. congrats - for now - truely!
BUT
let's take a look at Fair Warning's teaser:
My 4-teamer from Oly (12 points/pro, 14 points/college):
Rams/49ers over 32
Toledo pk over Western Mich (They own Broncs)
Minnesota + 20 at Michigan
Tenn + 27 at Georgia
***first off - the rams/49ers didn't play, but looking at the total - i think he meant/rams/seahawks. now - this tease won, meaning Fair won about 1 unit, or so of profit - but he had to lay 1.5 units to do so which is an outargeous price to pay.
BUT
let's look at this card WITHOUT teasing:
My 4-teamer from Oly (12 points/pro, 14 points/college):
Rams/49ers over 44
Toledo -14 over Western Mich (They own Broncs)
Minnesota +6 at Michigan
Tenn +13 at Georgia
now - let's take that same 1.5 units and play this parlay - not teaser - instead. the way i see things, ALL FOUR WON without teasing. so now that 1.5 units fair bet on the teaser and got back 1 unit would have yielded him FIFTEEN (15) UNITS had he not teased the game and just bet them off the board.
in this instance, Fair cost himself FOURTEEN (14) units of profit. I don't know about Fair's finances - but i'm willing to guess he could have used the extra FOURTEEN (14) units of profit he cost himself by teasing.
i hope this drives home the point about teasing (and Fair - sorry to use you as the example here - but just trying to make a point) College Games (OK - I know one of Fair's games was NFL - but 3 of the 4 were CFB) and how much money you cost yourself by doing this.
I don't work for Olympic. I have never been to their operations. But I can say without a doubt the good folks running Olympic are gateful to you fair for SAVING them FOURTEEN (14) units more they would have had to pay you. I'm sure you aren't the only one they feel this way about!
truely's 2 10-point teasers that cost him -120:
teaser one
smiss -7
virg -6
auburn -15-
***So Miss kills this teaser - a game he would have lost w/o teasing anyway
########################
teaser two
wash st +6-
idaho +12
utah st +11
***A winner by teasing - a loser by NOT teasing
########################
teaser three
Adding A Four Teamer +13
130 To Win 100.
Smiss -4-
Virg -3-
Utah +2-
Auburn -13
***once again - a winner by teasing - a loser by not teasing.
so for truely - he went 2-1 teasing for a +0.80 unit profit - which would have been -3.00 units w/o teasing. congrats - for now - truely!
BUT
let's take a look at Fair Warning's teaser:
My 4-teamer from Oly (12 points/pro, 14 points/college):
Rams/49ers over 32
Toledo pk over Western Mich (They own Broncs)
Minnesota + 20 at Michigan
Tenn + 27 at Georgia
***first off - the rams/49ers didn't play, but looking at the total - i think he meant/rams/seahawks. now - this tease won, meaning Fair won about 1 unit, or so of profit - but he had to lay 1.5 units to do so which is an outargeous price to pay.
BUT
let's look at this card WITHOUT teasing:
My 4-teamer from Oly (12 points/pro, 14 points/college):
Rams/49ers over 44
Toledo -14 over Western Mich (They own Broncs)
Minnesota +6 at Michigan
Tenn +13 at Georgia
now - let's take that same 1.5 units and play this parlay - not teaser - instead. the way i see things, ALL FOUR WON without teasing. so now that 1.5 units fair bet on the teaser and got back 1 unit would have yielded him FIFTEEN (15) UNITS had he not teased the game and just bet them off the board.
in this instance, Fair cost himself FOURTEEN (14) units of profit. I don't know about Fair's finances - but i'm willing to guess he could have used the extra FOURTEEN (14) units of profit he cost himself by teasing.
i hope this drives home the point about teasing (and Fair - sorry to use you as the example here - but just trying to make a point) College Games (OK - I know one of Fair's games was NFL - but 3 of the 4 were CFB) and how much money you cost yourself by doing this.
I don't work for Olympic. I have never been to their operations. But I can say without a doubt the good folks running Olympic are gateful to you fair for SAVING them FOURTEEN (14) units more they would have had to pay you. I'm sure you aren't the only one they feel this way about!
winkyduck i understand your point,
but i use teasers as icing on the cake. i play all the games in straight bets usually,
so if i win the straigths then i cleaned house on the teasers and made some extra cash.
but if my straight bets lose, maybe i picked up an extra unit or 2 by teasing.
and i do not recommend teasing at all, and if yo do, bet the 13 point teasers, they are a lot easier.
i just decided to do it for fun,
i hit all four posted here in pro, plus hit another 2 0f 3 not posted.
but i use teasers as icing on the cake. i play all the games in straight bets usually,
so if i win the straigths then i cleaned house on the teasers and made some extra cash.
but if my straight bets lose, maybe i picked up an extra unit or 2 by teasing.
and i do not recommend teasing at all, and if yo do, bet the 13 point teasers, they are a lot easier.
i just decided to do it for fun,
i hit all four posted here in pro, plus hit another 2 0f 3 not posted.
Interesting article...
The hidden value in halves and teaser bets Sides, totals, teasers, props, futures.
It reads like jargon used by some bored office-based architectural assistant, but in reality, it’s a few of the many choices sports bettors have when laying down the cash at a sportsbook.
Although the majority of bettors tackle nothing but side bets, there are many more valuable bets to profit from if one takes the time to learn the nuances of the different types of plays.
There’s also greater value because oddsmakers spend more time on the side plays bettors are more likely to bet on. With a little time, a bettor can learn to take the books to the bank with less played bets.
As on-line gaming becomes more widespread, two types of bets - halves and teasers - gain in popularity. Halves and teasers were originally only available in Las Vegas-based sportsbooks. Still, even the advent of the Internet, the two types of bets are still far and away less popular than side plays.
Halves bets allow players to lay the cash on the outcome of a given half of a game. Therefore, there are two halves bets for single football and basketball games. Sometimes books offer halves bet on baseball games with a half comprised of 4 1/2 or 5 innings.
There are several advantages to halves bets, especially in football.
"Football games really are two entirely seperate games,” Las Vegas-based handicapper David Malinsky says. “Fundamentally, there are things that teams want to do early to set a tempo in a game that might not have anything to do with how they are going to play in the second half. It's really the fundamental knowledge of the players and the coaches that can work to our advantage."
The good thing about betting on the first half of a game is a bettor knows whether his or her bet is a winner or not after 30 minutes. It also gives the bettor a sense of the weather, player mismatches and how a team is performing to lay the smart cash on the second-half bet.
"What we look for is game plans and personnel matchups for those first 30 minutes,” says Malinsky, who releases the popular "30 Minutes to Profits" picks. “The nice thing about the first half is its starter against starter. Especially in college football, if you got a team that's favored by something like -17 points or more, a good portion of the second half is going to be played by the reserves.”
First half bets are also good when one talented team has a chance to blowout a mediocre team.
"At the beginning of the game, it's each coach calling the plays they want to call, not the plays they are forced to call,” Malinsky says. “First quarter football is about coaches want to do. Third and fourth quarter football is what the coaches have to do."
Bettors also hold an advantage over the books on second half halves bets because oddsmakers have only a 15-20 minute window to set the lines for the second half. Rarely do the books take into account the performance of the teams in the first half to set their lines. Instead, the oddmakers usually set the second half line based off numbers and power ratings collected before the game even starts.
Teasers are another good way to break the bank. Basically, teasers are two-game parlays in which a bettor may adjust the point spreads of two games by a total of six or seven points, depending on the type of teaser a player lays.
For example, if oddsmakers make Indianapolis a –7 favorite in one game and Baltimore a +3 'dog, a player has six or seven points to “move” the lines in the two games. Therefore, a player could possibly move the line on Indianapolis to zero and the Baltimore game at to +10.
Long thought of as sucker bets, there are particular situations that teasers become advantage plays.
"In football, they're good because there's key numbers which are often important, such as 3 and 7,” says handicapper Steve Merril, who often releases teaser picks. “About 15 percent of all games land on exactly three points and another ten percent or so land of games land on 6 and 7 combined. All of a sudden, a those are wins because of the teaser."
But there are certain situations a player must be aware of before he or she invests in a teaser bet.
"You want to use it in games where the points matter,” Merril says. “If you think a team is going to blow another team out, then it's not a smart move to use a teaser. What people don't realize is that the best play isn't usually your best teaser play because if it's that strong, you don't need the extra points and there's no sense tying it up with another game."
High offense is also not conducive to a valuable teaser bet. If two offenses meet each other, an offensive shootout usually results in a higher margin of victory. But if two strong defenses meet, a teaser isn’t such a bad idea.
"The whole key to teasers being successful is that the point spread is very accurate,” Merril says. “So if there's a good chance that it falls within that six-point margin, then moving the line is very advantageous. In college the lines aren't so accurate and there's a lot more blow out, so teasers aren't as worth it."
The time to get on halves and teaser bets is now. Since less players lay down the cash on these bets, there’s more value since the oddsmakers devote more time into the sides and, to a certain extent, the totals bets. Still, even if halves and teasers become as popular as sides and totals, there will always be value somewhere else.
"As volume increases the oddsmakers will do more work and sometimes it can take some of your edges away,” Malinsky says. “But at the same, as the public gets more involved in betting, it will create some new situations for us."
The hidden value in halves and teaser bets Sides, totals, teasers, props, futures.
It reads like jargon used by some bored office-based architectural assistant, but in reality, it’s a few of the many choices sports bettors have when laying down the cash at a sportsbook.
Although the majority of bettors tackle nothing but side bets, there are many more valuable bets to profit from if one takes the time to learn the nuances of the different types of plays.
There’s also greater value because oddsmakers spend more time on the side plays bettors are more likely to bet on. With a little time, a bettor can learn to take the books to the bank with less played bets.
As on-line gaming becomes more widespread, two types of bets - halves and teasers - gain in popularity. Halves and teasers were originally only available in Las Vegas-based sportsbooks. Still, even the advent of the Internet, the two types of bets are still far and away less popular than side plays.
Halves bets allow players to lay the cash on the outcome of a given half of a game. Therefore, there are two halves bets for single football and basketball games. Sometimes books offer halves bet on baseball games with a half comprised of 4 1/2 or 5 innings.
There are several advantages to halves bets, especially in football.
"Football games really are two entirely seperate games,” Las Vegas-based handicapper David Malinsky says. “Fundamentally, there are things that teams want to do early to set a tempo in a game that might not have anything to do with how they are going to play in the second half. It's really the fundamental knowledge of the players and the coaches that can work to our advantage."
The good thing about betting on the first half of a game is a bettor knows whether his or her bet is a winner or not after 30 minutes. It also gives the bettor a sense of the weather, player mismatches and how a team is performing to lay the smart cash on the second-half bet.
"What we look for is game plans and personnel matchups for those first 30 minutes,” says Malinsky, who releases the popular "30 Minutes to Profits" picks. “The nice thing about the first half is its starter against starter. Especially in college football, if you got a team that's favored by something like -17 points or more, a good portion of the second half is going to be played by the reserves.”
First half bets are also good when one talented team has a chance to blowout a mediocre team.
"At the beginning of the game, it's each coach calling the plays they want to call, not the plays they are forced to call,” Malinsky says. “First quarter football is about coaches want to do. Third and fourth quarter football is what the coaches have to do."
Bettors also hold an advantage over the books on second half halves bets because oddsmakers have only a 15-20 minute window to set the lines for the second half. Rarely do the books take into account the performance of the teams in the first half to set their lines. Instead, the oddmakers usually set the second half line based off numbers and power ratings collected before the game even starts.
Teasers are another good way to break the bank. Basically, teasers are two-game parlays in which a bettor may adjust the point spreads of two games by a total of six or seven points, depending on the type of teaser a player lays.
For example, if oddsmakers make Indianapolis a –7 favorite in one game and Baltimore a +3 'dog, a player has six or seven points to “move” the lines in the two games. Therefore, a player could possibly move the line on Indianapolis to zero and the Baltimore game at to +10.
Long thought of as sucker bets, there are particular situations that teasers become advantage plays.
"In football, they're good because there's key numbers which are often important, such as 3 and 7,” says handicapper Steve Merril, who often releases teaser picks. “About 15 percent of all games land on exactly three points and another ten percent or so land of games land on 6 and 7 combined. All of a sudden, a those are wins because of the teaser."
But there are certain situations a player must be aware of before he or she invests in a teaser bet.
"You want to use it in games where the points matter,” Merril says. “If you think a team is going to blow another team out, then it's not a smart move to use a teaser. What people don't realize is that the best play isn't usually your best teaser play because if it's that strong, you don't need the extra points and there's no sense tying it up with another game."
High offense is also not conducive to a valuable teaser bet. If two offenses meet each other, an offensive shootout usually results in a higher margin of victory. But if two strong defenses meet, a teaser isn’t such a bad idea.
"The whole key to teasers being successful is that the point spread is very accurate,” Merril says. “So if there's a good chance that it falls within that six-point margin, then moving the line is very advantageous. In college the lines aren't so accurate and there's a lot more blow out, so teasers aren't as worth it."
The time to get on halves and teaser bets is now. Since less players lay down the cash on these bets, there’s more value since the oddsmakers devote more time into the sides and, to a certain extent, the totals bets. Still, even if halves and teasers become as popular as sides and totals, there will always be value somewhere else.
"As volume increases the oddsmakers will do more work and sometimes it can take some of your edges away,” Malinsky says. “But at the same, as the public gets more involved in betting, it will create some new situations for us."
