Jenna - I am not here to cause problems. I would love to have a civilized debate but you always get people like Grantt and JackDee who want to fight, argue, and call people names. Then when you ask them for there opinion on how to handle things they mysteriously disappear.
I think you just have certain people out there that think that all Americans are obnoxious, arrogant, and self serving even though we know they are not.
KMAN
I think you just have certain people out there that think that all Americans are obnoxious, arrogant, and self serving even though we know they are not.
KMAN
Jenna - I think you are right. I have no desire to ever go to Greece, and who cares where Grantt is from.
I thank God I'm an American. People like Grantt, and JackDee remind me how lucky I was to be born here instead of some 3rd world country. We are really fortunate to live in the greatest country in the world, and I hope all Americans realize that.
KMAN
I thank God I'm an American. People like Grantt, and JackDee remind me how lucky I was to be born here instead of some 3rd world country. We are really fortunate to live in the greatest country in the world, and I hope all Americans realize that.
KMAN
KMAN I'm American and I live in another country. I have been to several different countries in my life. And the first thing that I learned is that most Americans take for granted that they are the most fortunate people in the world, and that is not only a statement from experience, but draw your own conclusions from facts. What country has the most applications for visas and green cards in the world? Not from one country or two, but from all over the world. Now, if America is such a terrible place, why are all these people doing everything within their power, legal and illegal, to get into the United States?
These people may say that I'm just another arrogant american, believe what you wish, but the United States of America is the greatest country in the world.....period. Are there other countries that are good countries, and even great countries?? Of course there are. But all in all, when you weigh the negatives and the positives, America is the "worlds choice" on where to live. Guarantee ya people like Grantt and JackDee just hate that too. Betcha they would say, "you couldn't pay me to live in America!!" Great! To be honest, if you don't want to be there, and particularly, if you don't like what we stand for, we don't want ya! But the FACTS are undebatable.
The Land of Opportunity, we have millions upon millions of examples.
www.playadaysports.com
These people may say that I'm just another arrogant american, believe what you wish, but the United States of America is the greatest country in the world.....period. Are there other countries that are good countries, and even great countries?? Of course there are. But all in all, when you weigh the negatives and the positives, America is the "worlds choice" on where to live. Guarantee ya people like Grantt and JackDee just hate that too. Betcha they would say, "you couldn't pay me to live in America!!" Great! To be honest, if you don't want to be there, and particularly, if you don't like what we stand for, we don't want ya! But the FACTS are undebatable.
The Land of Opportunity, we have millions upon millions of examples.
www.playadaysports.com
miss grant (alias topless sindy) has been run off other sites, for perpetrating frauds against bettors.
I posted a warning here a while back, including where the info could be found so that posters could look into it and decide for themselves, but before anyone could reply the thread was locked by peep.
As this is supposed to be a site where bettors can keep each other informed on such matters I posted it here. peep claimed it was a personal matter and didn't want it in here so he locked it(though I don't know what he based it being 'personal' on; I was not taken in by either scam grant tried to run, on either of his 'services', but had done a column on him/her per my usual topic/intent - educating bettors on scams; it was well received by bettors, but not by sindy/grant). I believe it had more to do with the power trip of moderating (big ego/small brain) and the fact that the info was found by doing a poster search at a competing forum (mw), one that at the time peep was getting routinely trashed in (I think that has since changed, and he is back there 'playing nice'; does today end in an odd number or an even number?)
Now sindy/grant will of course come in and call me names and deny every thing, and I won't waste more time replying to her on issues I've already kicked his arse on.
I helped put his scam tout service out of business and the website he ran it out of no longer exists. Fact. Mission accomplished.
But I don't ask posters to take my word on it just on what I've written above. You can either e-mail for the info (Ken has my address) or, as I said, if anyone cares, they can do the search.
DON'T take my word for it, or grants.
Check the posts, check the facts, form your own opinion. ALL the info is there to allow you to decide for yourselves where the truth resides.
And like EVERY poster there said after becoming informed, it's pretty clear - grant got caught pretending to be a girl and trying to scam bettors, and only admitted it AFTER being exposed (I still laugh out loud just remembering his 'concept'of topless sindy - what a loser).
As for his politics - well, he's anti-American and anti-anyone with a higher IQ (which is just about everybody) leaving him a bitter little boy with a lot of people to hate.
he's a deprived little git who gets his kicks by going around different forums and posting outrageous things in a pathetic attempt to get people to notice him, just a pitiful cry for attention.
My advice is don't waste time on him/her if you're looking to get into an intelligent debate that will allow you to confirm or question your own beliefs/opinions on war and/or world politics.
He is ignorant on the subject (as he is on most).
You'd be better off seeking out a homeless wino and debating with him on the merits of Thunderbird vs a 1999 Stags Leap Cabernet Estate reserve................
[This message was edited by Sonny Palermo on July 31, 2003 at 04:13 PM.]
I posted a warning here a while back, including where the info could be found so that posters could look into it and decide for themselves, but before anyone could reply the thread was locked by peep.
As this is supposed to be a site where bettors can keep each other informed on such matters I posted it here. peep claimed it was a personal matter and didn't want it in here so he locked it(though I don't know what he based it being 'personal' on; I was not taken in by either scam grant tried to run, on either of his 'services', but had done a column on him/her per my usual topic/intent - educating bettors on scams; it was well received by bettors, but not by sindy/grant). I believe it had more to do with the power trip of moderating (big ego/small brain) and the fact that the info was found by doing a poster search at a competing forum (mw), one that at the time peep was getting routinely trashed in (I think that has since changed, and he is back there 'playing nice'; does today end in an odd number or an even number?)
Now sindy/grant will of course come in and call me names and deny every thing, and I won't waste more time replying to her on issues I've already kicked his arse on.
I helped put his scam tout service out of business and the website he ran it out of no longer exists. Fact. Mission accomplished.
But I don't ask posters to take my word on it just on what I've written above. You can either e-mail for the info (Ken has my address) or, as I said, if anyone cares, they can do the search.
DON'T take my word for it, or grants.
Check the posts, check the facts, form your own opinion. ALL the info is there to allow you to decide for yourselves where the truth resides.
And like EVERY poster there said after becoming informed, it's pretty clear - grant got caught pretending to be a girl and trying to scam bettors, and only admitted it AFTER being exposed (I still laugh out loud just remembering his 'concept'of topless sindy - what a loser).
As for his politics - well, he's anti-American and anti-anyone with a higher IQ (which is just about everybody) leaving him a bitter little boy with a lot of people to hate.
he's a deprived little git who gets his kicks by going around different forums and posting outrageous things in a pathetic attempt to get people to notice him, just a pitiful cry for attention.
My advice is don't waste time on him/her if you're looking to get into an intelligent debate that will allow you to confirm or question your own beliefs/opinions on war and/or world politics.
He is ignorant on the subject (as he is on most).
You'd be better off seeking out a homeless wino and debating with him on the merits of Thunderbird vs a 1999 Stags Leap Cabernet Estate reserve................
[This message was edited by Sonny Palermo on July 31, 2003 at 04:13 PM.]
sonny....is this boxing`s sonny?........if it is ,that`s great......one of my bud`s from another forum i believe is an acquaintance of yours(fletch)......
got off track here....sorry
thanks for "outing' grantt....
i just thought he was a misguided youngster with issues(the rumor was that when he played in the sandbox as a kid,the cat kept covering him up)....
didn`t know the guy was a crook and a scam artist.....
great post.....
stop into the "other" forum...i`m gettin` ready to post a few boxing plays....your opinion would be welcome....
again,great post...
got off track here....sorry
thanks for "outing' grantt....
i just thought he was a misguided youngster with issues(the rumor was that when he played in the sandbox as a kid,the cat kept covering him up)....
didn`t know the guy was a crook and a scam artist.....
great post.....
stop into the "other" forum...i`m gettin` ready to post a few boxing plays....your opinion would be welcome....
again,great post...
I have found that he contributes absolutely zero to this forum. I know this in the politics, and gov. etc. forum, but it is still a sports-betting web-site. If you look at grantt posts, its pretty tough to find even one post that contributes to the basic goal of the web-site, which to provide gambling information. If it was up to me I would ban him. Of course it is not my call, so from this minute I will simply ignore him. Will he go away on his own? I seriously doubt it.
wil.
wil.
i don`t disagree with wilheim......but,this political forum`s main theme(at least since i became aware of it),has been "america is the great satan"......and obviously,that sentiment rings true with many that post here....and generates quite alot of discussion and many hits for the sponsors......
so,in keeping with the "hate america first" theme,it would be silly to ban grantt.....
this crap is making money for shrink and the rx gang....and,imo,it`s basically harmless....
like the free market economy that makes america percolate,i`d vote that grantt has the right to spew his poison,if he wants to...
but,grantt, no trans-gender scams,please....(sonny palermo...lmao).....
so,in keeping with the "hate america first" theme,it would be silly to ban grantt.....
this crap is making money for shrink and the rx gang....and,imo,it`s basically harmless....
like the free market economy that makes america percolate,i`d vote that grantt has the right to spew his poison,if he wants to...
but,grantt, no trans-gender scams,please....(sonny palermo...lmao).....
I think this forum (Politics etc.) has two different theme's. The main one as you mention, is America the Great Satan. We also have a second on going debate between Americans (and a few non-Americans), from the left and right side of World political ideology. Mainly several hardline right wing conservatives and a more international group of liberal lefties (me included). I for one enjoy the right/left debate more than the America is this or that argument. BTW. I have always enjoyed your posts.
Wil.
Wil.
