Playoff advantage

Search

Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
3,961
Tokens
Looks like it's going to happen...if you know up front who's going to be in the Super Bowl and its outcome before the playoffs even start, it would truly be a serious advantage in playing almost all of the games when both teams come from a 1st round wildcard spot...
As I suggested after week 15...


finishing the reverse engineering of the Super Bowl...

As it is there are only 2 teams remaining (using the #'s formula), who are capable of reaching 20 or more pts with 2 games left..
That's New England and Seattle
Let's break down the chances and see who has the better chance of getting there.

12-2 New England (+14) needs to win out and hold both opponents to less than 14pts, their 2 remaining games are on the road vs divisional rivals, let's check out their history in these spots.

Year.....14...13...12...11...10...09...08...07
Ne.......17...27...49...37...14....9....19...38
Ny.......16...30...19...16...28...16...10...14.........ny was held to under 14pts only once in 8 years

Year.....14...13...12...11...10...09...08...07
Ne.......20...20...23...38...41...21...48...49
Mia......33...24...16...24...14...22...28...28........mia was held to under 14pts 0 times in 8 years

9-5 Seattle (+18) needs to win out and hold at least one opponent to less than 14pts, they also have 2 divisional games left, one at home and one on the road.
Let's check out the history in these spots.

Year.......14...13...12...11...10...09...08...07
Stl..........6.....9....13...13....6....0....13....6
Sea........20...27...20...30...16...28...37...33.........stl was held to under 14pts every game over last 8 years

Year......14...13...12...11...10...09...08...07
Sea.......35...34...16...20...36...20...21...20
Ari.........6....22...20...23...18...31...34...23.........Ariz was held under 14pts once in last 8 years

Path to 20+pts seems more likely for Seattle, let's assume they get it and apply the #'s

Since Seattle has the highest # of all the teams in the playoffs...
**the sb team with the lower # of the 2 participants has covered ats in 9 of last 10 years since 05, as well as winning the game su in 9 of last 11 years since 04**

Given the path Seattle had to take to get to the bowl, knocking out Carolina and/or Green Bay and/or Arizona and previous sb experience they would undoubtedly be favored in the game..
**when the team with the lower # is the dog in the bowl they're 7-0 ats and 6-1 su s 01**

Now we're looking for the afc representative in the bowl, it's important to have the afc team have an equal or worse finishing reg season record than Seattle (for different reasons), and the only reasonable teams out there are Pittsburgh and Kansas city.
With their records currently the same, whichever team of these 2 who finishes with the worse reg season record will become the next Super Bowl champion.

Sometimes the Super Bowl teams previously meet in the regular season, when this happens the team who lost the reg sea game su, avenges it and gets the win in the bowl, The last 7 times this occurred the reg sea loser got the win 5 times...I believe that's the case this year...when Seattle beat Pittsburgh on November 29th at home 39-30

GAME.
 

Member
Handicapper
Joined
Sep 18, 2006
Messages
19,007
Tokens
Exactly...unfortunately.

GAME.



Pitt beating the Bengals, then Denver & the Patriots will still have then as a dog in the SB vs Seattle.........

Figure Seattle has to beat Vikings, the Carolina & then Arizona........


Line should be Seattle -4.......same line Pitt was when they beat Seattle in SB 2005
 

New member
Joined
Sep 8, 2012
Messages
25
Tokens
Thegame9000 didn't Seattle have to win out to qualify for the 20 pt system am I wrong but didn't they end up at 19
 

Member
Handicapper
Joined
Sep 18, 2006
Messages
19,007
Tokens
Game, does your system predict wildcard round, etc.....? I mean more precisely each individual game?
 

Member
Joined
Aug 14, 2007
Messages
2,564
Tokens
Pitt beating the Bengals, then Denver & the Patriots will still have then as a dog in the SB vs Seattle.........

Figure Seattle has to beat Vikings, the Carolina & then Arizona........


Line should be Seattle -4.......same line Pitt was when they beat Seattle in SB 2005
When Pitt beat Seattle, in '05, they weren't 30th in the league defending the pass as they are now. They gave up 336 yards in passing to Seattle in this year's game on only 21 completions.
 
Joined
May 4, 2005
Messages
2,958
Tokens
I love the GAME, but when you look at their schedules, Seattle and Pittsburgh combined would have played 10 out of their last 11 games on the road if they both make the Super Bowl. At some point you'd think one or both of these teams run out of gas. That said, GAME has been $$$ in the past.
 

RX Member
Joined
Sep 21, 2004
Messages
16,391
Tokens
Pitt beating the Bengals, then Denver & the Patriots will still have then as a dog in the SB vs Seattle.........

Figure Seattle has to beat Vikings, the Carolina & then Arizona........


Line should be Seattle -4.......same line Pitt was when they beat Seattle in SB 2005


I say -3 tops but could be wrong depending on how each team gets there if it happens.
Line closed at -3 in Seattle when they played a couple of weeks ago .
 

Member
Joined
Nov 5, 2006
Messages
2,246
Tokens
No offence Game but you're looking awfully far ahead. Personally I like to take it one week at a time. Too many intangibles in football to see that far ahead. But, I trust you know what you're doing so best of luck with your prognosticating. Cheers!!.......:toast:
 

Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
3,961
Tokens
Thegame9000 didn't Seattle have to win out to qualify for the 20 pt system am I wrong but didn't they end up at 19

Final #'s

Seattle +21
Carolina +15
Houston +15
New England +14
Pittsburgh +14
Arizona +12
Denver +12
Kansas city +9
Cincinnati +7
Green Bay +6
Minnesota +6
Washington -6

I'll put up the explanations and parameters for both choices along with wild card stuff sometime before Saturday, probably after work Friday when I have more time.
I thought I felt like writing now...turns out I dont.

I'll be back

GAME.
 

Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
3,961
Tokens
No offence Game but you're looking awfully far ahead. Personally I like to take it one week at a time. Too many intangibles in football to see that far ahead. But, I trust you know what you're doing so best of luck with your prognosticating. Cheers!!.......:toast:

Thanx select...I'm just thinking of the possible amount of times I could catch money lining these 2 teams.
 

Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
3,961
Tokens
This might be the 1st time in the current playoff format since 1990 with all four road teams favored in round 1, it's going to be a strange ride
 

New member
Joined
Mar 7, 2007
Messages
175
Tokens
Final #'s

Seattle +21
Carolina +15
Houston +15
New England +14
Pittsburgh +14
Arizona +12
Denver +12
Kansas city +9
Cincinnati +7
Green Bay +6
Minnesota +6
Washington -6

I'll put up the explanations and parameters for both choices along with wild card stuff sometime before Saturday, probably after work Friday when I have more time.
I thought I felt like writing now...turns out I dont.

I'll be back

GAME.

Game.......Seattle should have ended up with +19 at the end of the season based upon your parameters. You said they needed to win out, but got shelled by St Louis in week 16.
How did Seattle end up at +21? Please explain........ Thank you ahead of time!
 

New member
Joined
Nov 10, 2015
Messages
243
Tokens
Game wouldn't it be more likely that Seattle would end up facing Denver or New England again.. Correct me if I'm wrong but hasn't there been atleast a 1 or 2 seed in every past super bowl matchup..
 

Member
Joined
Sep 20, 2004
Messages
3,961
Tokens
Game.......Seattle should have ended up with +19 at the end of the season based upon your parameters. You said they needed to win out, but got shelled by St Louis in week 16.
How did Seattle end up at +21? Please explain........ Thank you ahead of time!

+3pts for each su win where they hold their opponent to less than 14pts
+2pts for each su win where they allow their opponent to score more than 30pts
-3pts for each su loss where their opponent scores more than 30pts
-2pts for each su loss where their opponent scores less than 14pts

Do the math....reg season only...

GAME.

I'll be back tonight
 

New member
Joined
Mar 7, 2007
Messages
175
Tokens
+18 before St Lou
-2 after losing to St Lou equals +16
+3 after beating Zona equals +19
what am I missing?
if I am doing something wrong, my apologies ahead of time
 

Forum statistics

Threads
1,119,859
Messages
13,574,238
Members
100,878
Latest member
fo88giftt
The RX is the sports betting industry's leading information portal for bonuses, picks, and sportsbook reviews. Find the best deals offered by a sportsbook in your state and browse our free picks section.FacebookTwitterInstagramContact Usforum@therx.com