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Is Larry Bowa already in trouble. I know its early, but this team better snap out of it and win a few games. Maybe some home cooking will help, they lost all 5 on the road.


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Its a shame, if the Phils go 1-5 84 games into the season, it means very little.

EVERYTHING is magnified out of proportion at the beginning of a baseball season.

Like I mentioned in another thread.........Victor Zambrano is on pace for 69 wins!
 

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No kidding, Mariners are 1-5 only after a nice comeback today when nothing looked like it could go right for them. Both these 1-5 teams will be factors this season, every team goes through 1-5 runs at some point of a season.
 

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They had a bad spring, and weren't/aren't going to hit their 92 game bar that was set, but as far as the East goes, nobody is gonna run off and hide with it, so they are safe there.

Lack of hitting again thus far, but they'll settle into their comfort zone before it's over.

P.S. Fish, Zambrano is the man, as I'm sure you've knocked down some nice two-dollar dog wins with him last year, he's becoming a name, reminds me of a few years ago when Halladay started rising..and his price revaluated.
 

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At BetLasPalmas the Phillies Ov/Un was 93 Un +110. Some teams don't handle being the favorites very well.
 

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Chuck, did you "phade phils?"
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I personally thought the Phils, NYY, LA, & Minny looked like nice Under plays..but Minny/Gardenhire/Santana are a damn machine?

[This message was edited by Horseshoe on April 12, 2004 at 01:54 AM.]
 

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horseshoe, I feel like a fool for not betting the Phillies Un 93. I bet the Phils to win the NL East so I did not want to bet the Under. I figured the Phils for roughly 90 wins which should be enough to win it.
 

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True Chuck, linemakers though tough, set some high bars, of course the numbers should be within 3 games or so, but it sure was tempting looking to go under with NYY, Bost, Philly, Cubs, Hou, Minny, LAD.

GL this baseball season Chuck!
 

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What did the Angels start off at when they won the World Series two years ago? Something like 6-22 it was an outrageous number.
 

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Fla had a losing record after 6 full weeks last season also. Its a marathon and not a sprint.
Bowa brings on a lot of these problems himself because he has such a short fuse with everything himself. I've always preferred stoic managers to rah-rah tempermental guys like Bowa. They undeniably have had more success historically.
 

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horseshoe, did you make any of those plays yourself? I have the NYY Over 98½. I saw it as high as 102 at the Mandalay Bay so I thought 98½ was a steal. Now I am not so sure. A-Rod is batting a buck forty. I should of known this loser would bring the NYY down.
 

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Going against the Phils has been very profitable......make'um 1-6 after this afternoons debacle.
 

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I would like to thank the books for moving the Philly line from -120 to -235 to win the East. It prevented me from pouring more money on the Phils. The books used to be more confident in their lines and were reluctant to move the line just because a few bettors bet on their home team. Thanks again.
 

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i got 'em to win the nl...
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i thought the cubbies couldn't hit...these guys are BRUTAL.
 

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Phillies open new park with another loss April 12, 2004
SportsLine.com wire reports

PHILADELPHIA -- The Phillies opened their new stadium the same way they left their old one.

Paul Wilson allowed just one run over 7 1/3 innings, and the Cincinnati Reds beat Philadelphia 4-1 Monday in the first game at Citizens Bank Park, triggering boos from Phillies' fans angered by the team's slow start.

"You can't get on the fans. The fans are great here," Phillies manager Larry Bowa said. "They can boo. They're frustrated. They want to see a winner."

It was fitting the Phillies started their new era with a loss. After all, they are the losingest franchise in sports. No team in any U.S. pro sport has lost more games (8,681).

D'Angelo Jimenez got the first hit, a ground-rule double down the right-field line on the fourth pitch of the game from Randy Wolf.

Bobby Abreu hit the first home run, the only bright spot for a dismal Phillies' offense that has scored 16 runs in seven games.

A crowd of 41,626 spent most of the afternoon hiding from the rain on a 48-degree day. Most of the seats in the upper deck were empty by the fifth inning, and some of the remaining fans were booing or chanting, "Let's Go Flyers!" by the seventh.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wilheim:
"Let's Go Flyers" LMAO. Ya gotta luv those Philly fans.


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Will, you dont know what I have to put up with here in Tampa with all the Phily fans.
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There ok fellas though......just a tad narrow minded.
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Speaking of the Flyers, they are involved in one hell of a hockey game right now in New Jersey. 2-2 in the 2nd. Spirited hard hitting game. Critical for the Devils down 2-0 in games.


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Angels were 6-14 to start if I am not mistaken. Back in 2002 nobody gave two craps about the Angels so there was no writing them off early. You could tell that team could hit and that they had a great 'pen. That said very few people expected them to get into the playoffs after that start.

Phils may be in for a tough season. We'll see. Gotta say Philly fans are the most entertaining fans in the country. Big pro wrestling fanbase in that city which you gotta love.
 

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