Pennington yes or no

[ACE-ACE]

PENNINGTON:
"We’ve heard far too many people say that Pennington is a big upgrade at quarterback for Miami. The way he’s been throwing the past couple of years, it’s hard to make that case. He had a misleadingly high quarterback rating last year because he complete a good percentage of dinks and dunks. Arguably the only negative about the passer rating stat is that it can reward this kind of quarterback.
Pennington’s TD/INT ratio was just 10/9. Anything close to even is bad because TD’s are more common than interceptions. Pennington was also extremely sack prone. He got nailed in the backfield more often than many guys who had 100 or more pass attempts than he did.
Compare last year’s Jets (Pennington and Kellen Clemens) to last year’s Dolphins (guys Pennington is replacing) in a few of our key stat areas:
2007 DRIVE POINTS
New York 8.1
Miami 9.5
2007 THIRD DOWN CONVERSIONS
New York 38%
Miami 37%
2007 TOTAL YARDAGE
New York 26th in the league
Miami 28th in the league
2007 TURNOVER DIFFERENTIAL
New York -4
Miami -7
Seriously, how much of an upgrade can we be talking about here? Pennington definitely has an edge in experience. One could argue that he’s tricked people into thinking he’s better than he is by using that experience to hide his weaknesses. He’s not a downfield threat. He’s not a guy who’s consistently leading his offenses to the end zone any more. He’s prone to take sacks rather than throw interceptions…which tricks people into thinking it’s the offensive linemen’s fault instead of his.
Don’t assume Miami’s offense is about to get A LOT better because Pennington is calling the shots. Pennington didn’t turn out to be as good as everyone (ourselves included) expected. A change of scenery could certainly help. Getting out of the Meadowlands will help his late season numbers. We’ve lifted the Dolphins a couple of points from last year because of coaching and management changes. We didn’t do any additional lifting when this announcement was made. Pennington will have to prove on the field that further adjustments are required. Miami was 1-15 last year. Pennington needs a good supporting cast to thrive because he’s not a playmaker all by himself. There are indicators for improvement…but indicators for real quality just yet"

 

[fivedoorsdown]

ace, i dont think he will make much of a difference. his arm is as strong as johnny damons in the outfield

 

[fivedoorsdown]

i may play pennington and the dolphins though when they play the jets.
you know the jets will be taking in the money

 

[FearTheRaven]

I think the Jets are a good fade the first few weeks.

It usually works that way. The team most publicized to surprise everyone falters early.

Good example is New Orleans last year.

 

[realestatepro]

If Pennington stays healthy he will end up making a difference. But they won 1 game last year. Granted there were some close ones but in the end they won 1 game. To expect them to win anymore than 4 or 5 this year is asking too much. They will be better, and yes they are better with Chad running the offense. But no they won't be making any great strides this year.

 

[Snookslayer]

C'mon. Pennington doesn't have to do much to out-preform last year's Lemon and Beck, or this years pathetic QB options: Beck, Henne, McCown.

Pennington is definately an upgrade over those guys.

 

[Whisperz]

Pennington is an upgrade for the Miami Dolphins.

But, I am an upgrade for the Miami Dolphins.

Beck? Lemon? Come on guys these are 2nd stringers at best and thats being generous. Pennington is a solid backup QB. He wasn't able to dink and dunk his way to victory in NY and hes not going to be able to in MIA.

 

[sm.time.gmblr]

He is an upgrade to Miami as he is a very smart QB. The issue is with the loss of key players on the defense. I highly doubt they will be losing almost all there games by a margin of three like last year. However, he is an upgrade and was the right man (or only qb) available on the market for the type of system they will be running down in Miami this year. Believe me the puppet master (Parcells) knows what he needs and imo is one of the best football minded coaches of the past 2 decades. He will turn this team around to 6 wins.

 

[ESQAJM]

Pennington may dink and dunk, but with enough of them he moves the team downfield. He is very accurate. With a good offensive line in front of him he can do a lot of damage. I wouldn't mind having him as my QB on a key 3rd or 4th down where the team needed 5 yards.

 

[ca$hmoney]

I am a diehard Fins fan and you can call me a homer for saying this but...

The Fins were terrible last year. The had terrible coaches who admitted on multiple occassions that they blew the game on bad calls, they traded away their best 2 wrs, lost a few games by 3 points, they were riddled with injuries, were breaking in a new offensive and defensive system, and on and on.

Since then they have brought in a bunch of special teams gunners which will shore up that unit. Ginn had 2 kick return TDs last year and 2 more called back on BS holding calls - and he had another this preseason. Their coaching staff has a resume of turning around teams which is another positive. They have a list of early first round picks over the last several years and each of them have been looking decent. Their offensive line should be their best unit and look to be a very solid run blocking unit which will open holes for 2 solid rbs. This should play into Pennington hands since he does best when able to run play action.

They brought in a lot of speed at the wr position and brought in talent from Dallas at te. Their secondary has been slowly being pieced together the last few seasons but nobody has seen it perform since it has been riddled with injuries.

Many of their last 3 draft classes are starting including almost the entire 2008 draft class. They are starting to see the light and the best thing that could happen to them was to pick up a QB with some confidence. Pennington may not turn this team around to get 6,7 or 8 wins but you better believe they will be competitive this year. A 5.5 win total is slightly low in my opinion, espcially with their weak schedule, but they lack depth which may hurt them down the stretch where they should settle at about 6 wins. But due to their early schedule of having to play @AZ, @NE, vs SD, and @Houston, they should have great value come week 7 when they will have a 1-4 record with a stretch of 5 games at home over the next 6 weeks. By this time the team will be gelling and covering, if not winning more often than not with games vs Oakland and Baltimore, and later vs the Rams, San Fran, and KC.

And I know preseason is only preseason but did anyone realize that their #1 defensive unit didn't give up a single point. Bucs scores with seconds left in the first half, Jags scored with 6 minutes to go in the 4th, and KC got shut out.

I am the ultimate optimist!!

 

[Jetplane]

Pennington is the same as he's been since he had one good year. A has-been. He's adequate. He may do a SLIGHTLY better job than a rookie... so if you call that an upgrade--sure. Dolphins won't go 0-fer this year... they might win 2 games... c'mon.

 

[terpkeg]

Ive seen every Jets game of Pennington's career and i think it is a solid upgrade for Miami. The thing is, he isnt going to put a team on his shoulders, he needs a good support cast around him.

Over the past 8 years, 4 years Pennington stayed healthy and was the teams full time starter. All 4 years the Jets made the playoffs. 3 years he filed to stay health the jets were miserable. Then last year, he split time and the Jets sucked. The thing about last year was that the O-line played horendous football after losing Kendall in the pre season. Also, the defense wasa real bad. They were forcing a 3-4 with 4-3 personell. Robertson was too small inside. Vilma couldnt get off olineman who were getting to him clear and use his athletisism. The secondary had some injuries and didnt get it together. Thus, the Jets were always falling behind. Rallying from a deficit in come from behind situations (when D's are sitting on the pass) is not going to be Penningtons strong point.

However, he is incredible smart and accurate. Before last year, Randy Moss said Pennington was the best QB he ever played with. He gets flack for his week arm, but he can throw the deep ball with accuracy if he has time. I know for sure, when Clemens went out of the Pats game in Week 16 last year, I was happy because I thought the Jets had a chance to win. And what did Pennington do, he led the Jets inside the 20 5 times. Which resulted in a fumble and two missed fg if I recall, but he still efficiently moves the offense down the field and what else can the Phins ask for after last year.

There is nothing wrong with dinks and dunks if that is moving the chains. Better than forcing ints downfield.

 

[THEBUFFROCK]

Another avid Dolphin fan here...........I also agree that the 5.5 is slightly low. I see them winning 6 maybe 7. They will win the close ones this year. Is Pennington the answer???? Hell no, but for now with this team, I think it is a good fit. Keep an eye on Henne, I think its his team in the next couple of years!

 

[Jetplane]

Henne will step up for sure... his preseason stats were not bad at all for a kid.

 

[WormyPix]

Thank you Cashmoney. With 5 of their losses coming by 3 pts, it's not far fetched to have them winning those with this unit & staff, plus their actual win, to get 6 this year. Esp vs the afc west and nfc west.

Looking at their schedule, I see them beating both BUF & NYJ once, BAL, DEN, OAK, SF, and KC. And a win against a weak road team SEA isn't crazy either. Plus, their "road" game vs BUF is in Toronto.

Having a winning record is wishful thinking, but not implausible. Heck, I half hope they have an awful record, so Parcells can have another top 10 pick. Go Fins!

 

[Boxslayer]

The original poster in that article makes a big mistake of trying to sit down and squash numbers and does not into account the number one reason why Pennington is an upgrade over anyone: intangibles.

Stability, experience, leadership, respect are all words to describe Chad Pennington. He is a leader in the huddle, he is a veteran, he is accurate, he is efficient. The Dolphins dont need another unproven hotshot trying to come in with a big arm and sling a bunch of INTs. They need some stability, and to have the defense know they are fighting for something.

This Dolphin team is so desperate to have a leader on of the offensive side of the ball calling the snaps. They havent had a guy that has commanded respect in the huddle for a long time. Jay Fiedler, Gus Frerotte, AJ Feeley, Cleo Lemon, John Beck and all of these bums were always out to prove themselves and make a name for themselves.

This team respects Pennington, and that is bringing this team together and giving them confidence and something to play for. More importantly, Pennington has a lot of confidence right now. He knows he is being counted on to lead this team, and he is playing for the man who drafted him in Parcells. Pennngton knows he has a boss who believes in him, and that mixed with the change in scenery should lead to an above average year for Chad P.

Little known fact: With QBs with at least 1,500 attempts in their career Chad Pennington is #1 in NFL History in completion percentage.

He can dink and dunk all he wants, the bottom line is he moves the chains, he is outstanding off playaction, and he gives this team stability at the QB position. With Ricky and Ronnie needing to be respected, Chad P will have a running attack to playaction off of instead of an aging Thomas Jones and a super old Curtis Martin like he has had the past few years.

 

[fivedoorsdown]

The original poster in that article makes a big mistake of trying to sit down and squash numbers and does not into account the number one reason why Pennington is an upgrade over anyone: intangibles.

Stability, experience, leadership, respect are all words to describe Chad Pennington. He is a leader in the huddle, he is a veteran, he is accurate, he is efficient. The Dolphins dont need another unproven hotshot trying to come in with a big arm and sling a bunch of INTs. They need some stability, and to have the defense know they are fighting for something.

This Dolphin team is so desperate to have a leader on of the offensive side of the ball calling the snaps. They havent had a guy that has commanded respect in the huddle for a long time. Jay Fiedler, Gus Frerotte, AJ Feeley, Cleo Lemon, John Beck and all of these bums were always out to prove themselves and make a name for themselves.

This team respects Pennington, and that is bringing this team together and giving them confidence and something to play for. More importantly, Pennington has a lot of confidence right now. He knows he is being counted on to lead this team, and he is playing for the man who drafted him in Parcells. Pennngton knows he has a boss who believes in him, and that mixed with the change in scenery should lead to an above average year for Chad P.

Little known fact: With QBs with at least 1,500 attempts in their career Chad Pennington is #1 in NFL History in completion percentage.

He can dink and dunk all he wants, the bottom line is he moves the chains, he is outstanding off playaction, and he gives this team stability at the QB position. With Ricky and Ronnie needing to be respected, Chad P will have a running attack to playaction off of instead of an aging Thomas Jones and a super old Curtis Martin like he has had the past few years.

do you even bet??
having pennington as your qb is like having herpes . IT HURTS