Not at all. People who have studied the evidence have valid questions and confusion on some of that
plus the fact that payouts were made without anything more than an accusation combined with having been, at some point, within the presence of Sandusky (or even, in one case merely claiming to have been within his presence) being all that was needed to get a Fat Check, a very handsome Payday...this troubles some people.
The fact that an entire university gets on-goingly called "pedophiles" when 97,659 out of 97,663 of that school's students and staff had nothing whatsoever to do with this and do themselves abhor whats been accused as much as you do...their school even to this day being called "Pedo U", this troubles some people.
I don't post this to defend Sandusky whatsoever or to deflect from the scourge of child abuse or even to call into question the validity of what was accused. 93 Million paid out with Zero Vetting of Claims, some of the facts surrounding McQueary's evolving story and Victim #1's most recent statements these things raise valid questions and if any rational intelligent discussion can ever happen these parts of this case must be looked at. I very much doubt Rational Intelligent discussion of the glaring problems within the Evidence and the manner that the $93,000,000 got paid out in is gonna come anytime soon though.
Thats not the case at all, with Brucefan. Again: I'm not a supporter of Sandusky not even in the least but your Crucifixion of Brucefan and anyone else who says: "Look at available evidence and the manner under which that 93 Million got paid out" illustrates exactly why Penn State gave that money away.
They could not question even in the least any accusation. If they had they'd have gotten crucified like you are doing to Brucefan for merely saying: "look at the Evidence."
A thing you would do under any other circumstances. Of Course The Entire University got crucified anyways.....and they continue to be.
97,959 of 97,663 Students and faculty were guilty of nothing. Theres a possibility that one guy there DID do bad things and 3 others did not address the problem appropriately. I'd be just as upset about this if that bad man had lived in your town and as result of accusations that he did bad stuff your entire town got renamed "PedoTown".
Whats gone down is simply completely unfair to people who had zero to do with the situation and others who merely ask people to look at the evidence, McQueary's and Victim #1's (and other's) evolving, changing over time statements and the circumstances under which the almost 100 Million Dollars got paid out.
Exactly . The fact that every time I respond I get personally attacked is exactly how this myth continues . Who in the media or public needs that crap ?
Im just a poster on some gambling forum and look at the cheap shots that come my way ( of course I don't give a shit )
Imagine trying to stand if you actually are somebody
I have clearly and openly stated my bias ( PSU Grad ) , but I also have taken the opportunity to try and figure out what really happened here by looking at the facts
my conclusion is that statue should be put back up , there was no culture of corruption or cover up ,JS deserves a new fair trial, and is most likely innocent
But I guess to the ignorant, it all makes perfect sense http://www.framingpaterno.com/sites/default/files/Perfect Sense January 2015.pdf. ( don't bother reading this , it's much easier to tell me again how I hate kids ).
He is "big WANG" bcuz he is Oriental. Chinese...Korean....some thing like one of those things
He's driven numerous cars into Poles, Walls and other obstructions. See Him Driving on the road, pull over slam the car into park gtfo and run type deal.
Whatever, his last name is Wang and the "big" part stems from him being 6'7" and 324 lbs so:
a.) IDK WTF is he Samoan?
b.) Decent Strategy might be to not piss this guy off too much.
he may know Karate. (Kar-ah-tay)
Oh Duh, all I said is "The Evidence is Whacked."
Just like in other prior cases where the eventual outcome has been Media and Lawyers molding what narrative they needed for Media to get better ratings ($$$$) and Lawyers to get more money ($$$)
Call me what you need to call me, I've only railed on about worry for Youth in other posts cuz some day some scientist pops up and announces that so much larger a percent of Adults are completely fucked up due to a Loss of Youth.
Necessary and Vital Stage of Development: Youth.
Its not "Rocket Science", this.
It is Biological Science....I guess.
I never came anywhere even remotely close to suggesting "noting happened", never near defense of Sandusky or condoning child abuse.
I merely suggested guys study the strange stuff within available "evidence" and chime in on why that stuff is identical to other cases that eventually got boiled down to a Composition written by "Reporters", Editors and Lawyers who smelled Blood In The Water.
I meant: all I said is "The Evidence is Whacked PLUS Penn State paid out that 93 Million with near to Zero Vetting of Claims. It was close to: Step Up with a Claim and get a Massive Payday. Doubtful an easier YUGE CASH has ever come along, for Lawyers.
Any Rational Guy would be tripped out by the circumstances under which nearly 100 Million got paid out to the 33 and their Attorneys. That there, a Yuge part of why I even chimed in on this mess at all. Manner of that $93,000,000 payout makes a dude's head spin.
Any Rational Guy would be tripped out by the circumstances under which nearly 100 Million got paid out to the 33 and their Attorneys. That there, a Yuge part of why I even chimed in on this mess at all. Manner of that $93,000,000 payout makes a dude's head spin.
yep have paid lawyers, ncaa, and victims nearly $250M yet still claim no wrong doing
thankfully we have The Onion
WASHINGTON—Stating they felt deeply unnerved by the community’s unwavering and impassioned defense of a football program and administration that enabled child sexual abuse over the course of several decades, the rest of the country informed Penn State University Friday that there is clearly something very wrong with all of them.
The nation’s nearly 320 million citizens all confirmed that the Penn State community’s repeated denials of the school’s culpability, continued displays of reverence for their former football head coach Joe Paterno, and failure to meaningfully acknowledge and respect the victims suggest that they share a very warped perspective on the world and may indeed be suffering from some kind of serious mental health condition.
“You all need to know that what you are doing and saying is extremely strange and that you should stop,” said Alex Gilani, 35, of Tacoma, WA, adding that “it should be pretty obvious” that holding halftime tributes to the late Paterno, who did nothing to prevent his former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky from sexually abusing dozens of children, is totally unacceptable. “All of us find it very strange that you cheer for him during games, paint his name on signs to hold up in the crowd, and attempt to restore a statue of him on campus.”
“That’s not normal,” continued Gilani. “In fact, it’s downright disturbing.”
According to reports, residents of all 50 states concurred that only a group of people who lack the most basic sense of self-awareness and decency could whitewash Joe Paterno’s enormous failures while continuing to celebrate his achievements in football. Millions of Americans also repeatedly stressed that Paterno’s decades of off-the-field charity work does not mitigate the damage he caused, and anyone who believes that it does has a dangerously distorted view of reality.
The entire populace emphasized that they were “very, very troubled” by suggestions from those affiliated with Penn State that only Sandusky is to blame, and that the university was unfairly targeted at the expense of players and coaches who had nothing to do with the scandal. Focusing on all of those things, rather than the many children molested by one of their coaches, is very bad and very odd, according to virtually every single person outside of State College, PA.
Americans went on to say that it would take an extremely sick and troubled mind to read the findings in the Freeh Report and then somehow disagree with Paterno’s immediate firing, while furthermore still believing in restoring his 111 victories confiscated by the NCAA.
“Please, take a few minutes to look outside the bubble of Happy Valley and think—really think—about what actually happened at your university under your coach’s watch,” said Sheila Mitchell, 45, of Duluth, MN, adding that “any normal, mature adult” would be able to recognize and accept that their former head coach had made unforgivable mistakes and should no longer be deified by thousands of people. “I mean, imagine if you found out that someone totally unaffiliated with Penn State had known that a man they employed was raping children, and not only did they not alert the authorities, but they didn’t even fire the guy. Would you still like, let alone support, that person? Probably not, right?”
“Then again, who knows—maybe you would,” Mitchell added. “Maybe that’s how far gone you really are.”
While acknowledging that the unsettling behavior of the Penn State community must represent their way of coping with what happened, many Americans sternly reminded students and alumni that disavowing and distancing themselves from Paterno would not mean they are betraying their school, and would in fact at least start to restore the institution’s reputation across the country. Furthermore, millions of citizens confirmed that while it was perhaps somewhat understandable to feel the impulse to defend their longtime coach when the scandal initially broke, continuing to do so years later is “completely deranged and psychotic.”
“If your immediate response to the thought of Joe Paterno is anything other than ‘Forget what he did as a football coach; that guy is a despicable human being, and I never want to see or hear that piece of shit’s name anywhere on the Penn State campus ever again,’ then you’ve totally lost your grasp of right and wrong,” said 29-year-old Sacramento, CA resident Alex Whelen. “Stop acting this way. Please. You’re being a bunch of delusional, selfish assholes.”
“And by the way, this is what absolutely everybody thinks of you guys,” Whelen added. “You do realize that, right?”
The American public went on to clarify that those associated with Penn State who do not harbor positive feelings toward Paterno but continue to sit quietly during conversations where their fellow classmates, family, or alumni articulate these views are “not any better” and are “actually pretty weak and pathetic in their own right.”
The entire nation also stated that given the circumstances, continuing to call Paterno by the endearing nickname “JoePa” is “just fucking creepy.”
“At this point, we’re not even angry about the way you act anymore; we’re mostly just concerned for your mental well-being,” said Peter Rowland, 41, of Lakeland, FL, adding that anyone valuing the legacy of a football coach over the lives of child sex abuse victims clearly lacks the ability to function as a healthy member of society. “Watching you guys carry on like this is extremely sad and, frankly, totally embarrassing to the rest of us. We really hope you seek out counseling or therapy, because you’ve clearly got some issues.”
“You need help—professional help,” Rowland added. “All of you.”
Reached for comment, the Penn State community responded to the nation by shouting “S-T-A-T-E! Go! State!”
thankfully we have The Onion
WASHINGTON—Stating they felt deeply unnerved by the community’s unwavering and impassioned defense of a football program and administration that enabled child sexual abuse over the course of several decades, the rest of the country informed Penn State University Friday that there is clearly something very wrong with all of them.
The nation’s nearly 320 million citizens all confirmed that the Penn State community’s repeated denials of the school’s culpability, continued displays of reverence for their former football head coach Joe Paterno, and failure to meaningfully acknowledge and respect the victims suggest that they share a very warped perspective on the world and may indeed be suffering from some kind of serious mental health condition.
“You all need to know that what you are doing and saying is extremely strange and that you should stop,” said Alex Gilani, 35, of Tacoma, WA, adding that “it should be pretty obvious” that holding halftime tributes to the late Paterno, who did nothing to prevent his former defensive coordinator Jerry Sandusky from sexually abusing dozens of children, is totally unacceptable. “All of us find it very strange that you cheer for him during games, paint his name on signs to hold up in the crowd, and attempt to restore a statue of him on campus.”
“That’s not normal,” continued Gilani. “In fact, it’s downright disturbing.”
According to reports, residents of all 50 states concurred that only a group of people who lack the most basic sense of self-awareness and decency could whitewash Joe Paterno’s enormous failures while continuing to celebrate his achievements in football. Millions of Americans also repeatedly stressed that Paterno’s decades of off-the-field charity work does not mitigate the damage he caused, and anyone who believes that it does has a dangerously distorted view of reality.
The entire populace emphasized that they were “very, very troubled” by suggestions from those affiliated with Penn State that only Sandusky is to blame, and that the university was unfairly targeted at the expense of players and coaches who had nothing to do with the scandal. Focusing on all of those things, rather than the many children molested by one of their coaches, is very bad and very odd, according to virtually every single person outside of State College, PA.
Americans went on to say that it would take an extremely sick and troubled mind to read the findings in the Freeh Report and then somehow disagree with Paterno’s immediate firing, while furthermore still believing in restoring his 111 victories confiscated by the NCAA.
“Please, take a few minutes to look outside the bubble of Happy Valley and think—really think—about what actually happened at your university under your coach’s watch,” said Sheila Mitchell, 45, of Duluth, MN, adding that “any normal, mature adult” would be able to recognize and accept that their former head coach had made unforgivable mistakes and should no longer be deified by thousands of people. “I mean, imagine if you found out that someone totally unaffiliated with Penn State had known that a man they employed was raping children, and not only did they not alert the authorities, but they didn’t even fire the guy. Would you still like, let alone support, that person? Probably not, right?”
“Then again, who knows—maybe you would,” Mitchell added. “Maybe that’s how far gone you really are.”
While acknowledging that the unsettling behavior of the Penn State community must represent their way of coping with what happened, many Americans sternly reminded students and alumni that disavowing and distancing themselves from Paterno would not mean they are betraying their school, and would in fact at least start to restore the institution’s reputation across the country. Furthermore, millions of citizens confirmed that while it was perhaps somewhat understandable to feel the impulse to defend their longtime coach when the scandal initially broke, continuing to do so years later is “completely deranged and psychotic.”
“If your immediate response to the thought of Joe Paterno is anything other than ‘Forget what he did as a football coach; that guy is a despicable human being, and I never want to see or hear that piece of shit’s name anywhere on the Penn State campus ever again,’ then you’ve totally lost your grasp of right and wrong,” said 29-year-old Sacramento, CA resident Alex Whelen. “Stop acting this way. Please. You’re being a bunch of delusional, selfish assholes.”
“And by the way, this is what absolutely everybody thinks of you guys,” Whelen added. “You do realize that, right?”
The American public went on to clarify that those associated with Penn State who do not harbor positive feelings toward Paterno but continue to sit quietly during conversations where their fellow classmates, family, or alumni articulate these views are “not any better” and are “actually pretty weak and pathetic in their own right.”
The entire nation also stated that given the circumstances, continuing to call Paterno by the endearing nickname “JoePa” is “just fucking creepy.”
“At this point, we’re not even angry about the way you act anymore; we’re mostly just concerned for your mental well-being,” said Peter Rowland, 41, of Lakeland, FL, adding that anyone valuing the legacy of a football coach over the lives of child sex abuse victims clearly lacks the ability to function as a healthy member of society. “Watching you guys carry on like this is extremely sad and, frankly, totally embarrassing to the rest of us. We really hope you seek out counseling or therapy, because you’ve clearly got some issues.”
“You need help—professional help,” Rowland added. “All of you.”
Reached for comment, the Penn State community responded to the nation by shouting “S-T-A-T-E! Go! State!”
