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Iowa State has fired coach Paul Rhoads, according to ESPN sources and multiple reports. Rhoads went 32-54 at the school. The Cyclones blew a 35-14 halftime lead Saturday at Kansas State and lost, 38-35.

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Good riddance. Complete loser. Runs the ball with a minute left when KState has one TO instead of kneeling it and it cost them the game.
 

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The problem is ISU will not do better than Rhodes or any coach they've had in the past like McCarney, who they also fired. I think the only way ISU becomes halfway competitive in the Big 12 is to hire a contrarian type of coach like a Paul Johnson, who would bring a different style of football to the Big 12. Right now ISU is trying to beat the Big 12 at their own game with these spread offenses. It's like trying to beat Bama at running the ball. It's not going to happen. OU, Baylor, TCU, OSU will always have the better players and do it better with the spread. Actually, this could be a good landing spot for Miles if/when he gets fired. Johnson is probably still good at GT despite a down year. But you never know.
 

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The problem is ISU will not do better than Rhodes or any coach they've had in the past like McCarney, who they also fired. I think the only way ISU becomes halfway competitive in the Big 12 is to hire a contrarian type of coach like a Paul Johnson, who would bring a different style of football to the Big 12. Right now ISU is trying to beat the Big 12 at their own game with these spread offenses. It's like trying to beat Bama at running the ball. It's not going to happen. OU, Baylor, TCU, OSU will always have the better players and do it better with the spread. Actually, this could be a good landing spot for Miles if/when he gets fired. Johnson is probably still good at GT despite a down year. But you never know.


Agree, think they need to run some type of gimmick system..
 

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Agree, think they need to run some type of gimmick system..
KSU has had quite a bit of success over the years being a hybrid spread/option team that controls the ball. And they do it with very little talent by Power 5 standards. All ISU is doing is putting even more pressure on their defense by trying to play fast break football against teams with more depth. And it's just not working. Rhodes knew it halfway through the season. That's why he fired Mangino. But it was too late by then. That style of football just isn't going to work with the talent they recruit.
 

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Rhodes 37% winning percentage wasn't very good but the ole coach hung in like a yard dog for Iowa State gaming men.

He finished his Cyclones career with a 41-38-1 against the spread record. Didn't win any money but far better than his
32-54 won/loss record.

Man, with all the openings already...got to think a lot of assistant coaches are working on resumes.
 

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Rhodes 37% winning percentage wasn't very good but the ole coach hung in like a yard dog for Iowa State gaming men.

He finished his Cyclones career with a 41-38-1 against the spread record. Didn't win any money but far better than his
32-54 won/loss record.

Man, with all the openings already...got to think a lot of assistant coaches are working on resumes.

Let the AD know he was 41-38 ATS then maybe he can keep his job Shush()*
 

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I agree with GS, running the football via a ball control offense is the way to go for a team like Iowa State. If you look at the teams from the northern half of the old Big 8 conference, the teams that had success such as Nebraska, Kansas State, and Colorado ran the football and played good defense. Granted, Colorado's and to a certain extent Nebraska's success was back in the days of the triple option offense, while Kansas State under Bill Snyder was able to modernize into today's spread/option attack, but the spread/option is somewhat of a derivative of the triple option offense with the QB making the decision to hand the ball off or not on the dive play running back up the middle.
 

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The problem is a program like ISU probably isn't going to do any better than Rhodes. He was a coach who was dedicated to that school, and unlike Gene Chizik before him he wasn't using it as a stepping stone job. Like I said, now that the damage is done they might as well go after a coach who doesn't share the same coaching philosophies as the 9 other coaches whose programs recruit better talent. In reality, the best ISU can probably ever hope for is maybe 6 or 7 wins tops.
 

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Let the AD know he was 41-38 ATS then maybe he can keep his job Shush()*

Naw, I'll leave that to some smartass like you. Know what I mean Vern?
 

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The problem is a program like ISU probably isn't going to do any better than Rhodes. He was a coach who was dedicated to that school, and unlike Gene Chizik before him he wasn't using it as a stepping stone job. Like I said, now that the damage is done they might as well go after a coach who doesn't share the same coaching philosophies as the 9 other coaches whose programs recruit better talent. In reality, the best ISU can probably ever hope for is maybe 6 or 7 wins tops.
Wrong Dan Mccarney did a HELL of a better job. Should of never let him go.
 

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Naw, I'll leave that to some smartass like you. Know what I mean Vern?

You say something dumb expect a reply Clit...You`re talking him up like he`s a great coach....Should have been canned years ago.

Dumb statement!
 

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Don't feel sorry for Coach Rhodes. Before the 2012 season he signed a 10 year, 20 million dollar contract.

Iowa State owe's the man $12 million bucks.

Maybe the president never looked at his ATS record...think so Greenie...really?
 

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Wrong Dan Mccarney did a HELL of a better job. Should of never let him go.
Na, it was about the same. McCarney was chuggling along at between 5-7 wins a year in what was the much easier Big 12 North at the time (less games against the Texas teams). Then he had 4 wins in his last season and they canned him. Just about identical to what Rhodes has been doing. But Rhodes has had it tougher because the Big 12 is now a round robin conference. You have to play EVERYBODY plus instead of four out of of conference games a year, Rhodes only got to play 3 to pad his record.
 

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The problem is a program like ISU probably isn't going to do any better than Rhodes. He was a coach who was dedicated to that school, and unlike Gene Chizik before him he wasn't using it as a stepping stone job. Like I said, now that the damage is done they might as well go after a coach who doesn't share the same coaching philosophies as the 9 other coaches whose programs recruit better talent. In reality, the best ISU can probably ever hope for is maybe 6 or 7 wins tops.

Exactly, just like Stanford plays the NFL power style against the rest of the Pac-12 who all seem to run finesse up-tempo offenses.
 

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What's interesting is that if Navy makes it to a New Years Day bowl, could we see other teams start to adopt the triple option offense?
 

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What's interesting is that if Navy makes it to a New Years Day bowl, could we see other teams start to adopt the triple option offense?

doubtful IMO. specialized scheme that can be stopped by top defenses and takes a while to really implement well. also i would think high school kids would opt to play at a school running the spread offense vs the triple option
 

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he'll be back at Pitt once Narduzzi moves along....
 

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