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How different would things be if the Seahawks run it from the one yard line instead of throwing it four years ago and the Falcons don't blow a 25 point lead two years ago? Tom Brady would be the only QB to lose five straight Super Bowls and the narrative surrounding this game would be completely different.
 

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Not sure your point. Just shows how clutch this team is more than anything. "what if" can be used for anything. And the whole give it to Lynch on the 1 yard line it is a guarantee....it wasn't. Also wasn't what they did all year. Lynch ironically wasn't good in those situations. It was 2nd and goal from the 1 with 50 seconds left and they had a tmeout. They could have QB sneaked it 3 times and almost 100% got the TD if there was no penalty. That was an even better plan then running Lynch
 

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Not sure your point. Just shows how clutch this team is more than anything. "what if" can be used for anything. And the whole give it to Lynch on the 1 yard line it is a guarantee....it wasn't. Also wasn't what they did all year. Lynch ironically wasn't good in those situations. It was 2nd and goal from the 1 with 50 seconds left and they had a tmeout. They could have QB sneaked it 3 times and almost 100% got the TD if there was no penalty. That was an even better plan then running Lynch

Lynch leans forward its a TD. Wilson leans forward its a TD. Dynastys are when you man handle teams in the Superbowl(s). 49ers, Cowboys etc. Not squeezing by on a kick from Viniteri and the NFL zebras help. Good, perhaps very good yes, but no legendary dynasty no matter how the sports media spins this fixed rigged league.
 

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How different would things be if the Seahawks run it from the one yard line instead of throwing it four years ago and the Falcons don't blow a 25 point lead two years ago? Tom Brady would be the only QB to lose five straight Super Bowls and the narrative surrounding this game would be completely different.

That logic is not valid, some games are blowouts but majority of game outcomes come down to one or two plays that decide who wins. Just him getting to the final game all those times putting his team in the position for those one or two key plays tells the story of how great he is.
 

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Lynch leans forward its a TD. Wilson leans forward its a TD. Dynastys are when you man handle teams in the Superbowl(s). 49ers, Cowboys etc. Not squeezing by on a kick from Viniteri and the NFL zebras help. Good, perhaps very good yes, but no legendary dynasty no matter how the sports media spins this fixed rigged league.

Nope. It take more time for a handoff to a running back to develop. Caught in the back field for a 2-3 yard loss then changes everything
 

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No one remembers that the Seahawks had a 1-4 success rate on downs they needed one yard when they gave the ball to Lynch that season.

Throwing the ball was the element of surprise but the Pats were ready ......Wilson was a bit late with the throw....& to this day the the Pats say Butler made an exceptional play

It was also a 2nd down play so if the pass goes incomplete they still had time and downs
 

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No one remembers that the Seahawks had a 1-4 success rate on downs they needed one yard when they gave the ball to Lynch that season.

Throwing the ball was the element of surprise but the Pats were ready ......Wilson was a bit late with the throw....& to this day the the Pats say Butler made an exceptional play

It was also a 2nd down play so if the pass goes incomplete they still had time and downs

But the Patriots could not stop the Seahawks running game, allowing 5.6 YPC. That team throwing in that situation still goes down as one of the worst, if not the worst, decisions in Super Bowl history.
 

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Imho that game had to be a set up - marshawn Lynch ran all over pats that day -and ran for like 80 yds on final drive down to the 1 1/2 yd line - ist n 10 about 40 secs left and 1 time out - pats just could not stop him - yet coach calls for a flat out pass an no option- an fires the ball that gets hit in air n intercepted - almost all players questioned Pete Carroll n all he said is was a bad call - unreal- so far as pats Atlanta - I needed pats large that day - Atlanta was ahead by 6 7.19 to go - on pats 30 yd line -pats had two timeouts - so what would Any i mean Any coach call - yup your right two running plays to set up fg n kill pats timeouts and possible ist down ice over, or leave pats with under 5 mins to score twice down 9 with accurate atl kicker - but No! he will calls for qb to pass an he drops back deep an gets sacked 10 yard loss And does it again n another big loss n gives pats time an punts unbelievable - and Atlanta fires offensive coach lol - who is kidding who
 

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How different would things be if the Seahawks run it from the one yard line instead of throwing it four years ago and the Falcons don't blow a 25 point lead two years ago? Tom Brady would be the only QB to lose five straight Super Bowls and the narrative surrounding this game would be completely different.
Those two games were payback for the two Giants games lol

It seems you conveniently forgot those games.
 

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Didn't the Settle coach Pete Caroll also fail to give the ball to a running back that would have given the RB a 1000 yard season a year before? Another stupid non move...
 

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Well they could have lost 5 straight Super Bowls.

And they could've won all eight.

Their biggest margin of loss was vs Philly last year when they lost by 8. That's one TD and a 2 point conversion. They led that game in the 4th Quarter. The other two they lost were to the Giants. They led one in the 3rd Q and the other in the 4th Q. They lost one by 3 and one by 4.

Anyone who thinks the Pats have been a fluke had better find a new hobby.
 

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Nah , .. Patriots are inches away from WINNING , ... and it'll be fixed in overtime. popcorn-eatinggif
 

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when it comes to the what if game with the Patriots in super bowls, it can be played both ways...they could have won all and lost all...

people love to complain about the pats always being in SB's..well if you took the last 8 SB's involving the Pats and the last 8 that they have not been in..which ones have been more entertaining? the answer is quite easy.
 
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If you deny that Pete Carrol gifted them one of their SB wins, then I have zero faith in you cracking 100 on an IQ test.
 

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Patriots are inches away from winning 8 straight Superbowls.

It's pretty easy to argue against PATRIOTS DERANGEMENT SYNDROME. And I hope they never find a cure:)

Truth is all the Belichick / Brady era SB's have been close games. Haters like to point to their narrow victories, conveniently ignoring their narrow losses.

And I wouldn't change a thing
 

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Well they could have lost 5 straight Super Bowls.

And they could've won all eight.

Their biggest margin of loss was vs Philly last year when they lost by 8. That's one TD and a 2 point conversion. They led that game in the 4th Quarter. The other two they lost were to the Giants. They led one in the 3rd Q and the other in the 4th Q. They lost one by 3 and one by 4.

Anyone who thinks the Pats have been a fluke had better find a new hobby.

They were leading both games vs the Giants very late in the 4th quarter, inside the two minute warning

The Eagles game last year, the Eagles took the lead late but the Patriots were in great position for Brady down 5 with the ball. Then Brady was stripped, the first time they touched him all night, and the Eagles went up 8 with only like 40 seconds left.

In all three losses the lost the lead at

0:35, Giants ended perfect season after miraculous catch by David Tyree. Pats also dropped an easy pick on the game winning drive

0:55, Giants win after Brady & Welker fail to connect on wide open reception that would have put the game away. The Giants then drive like 98 years aided by another incredible reception by Mario Manningham

2:21, Eagles win late, aided somewhat by the league unofficially changing the "reception rules" before the SB, although they didn't make it official until this season. Then the uncharacteristic Brady late turnover


PS: No excuses, the Giants and the Eagles won those games and that's that, I'm just pointing out that their losses were also all "a game of inches". There are bad calls and missed calls in every game, and then there are a handful of plays that could have changed the outcome of every game.

At the end of the day, you are what you are, and the Patriots are 5-3 in the SB during this amazing run
 

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They were leading both games vs the Giants very late in the 4th quarter, inside the two minute warning

The Eagles game last year, the Eagles took the lead late but the Patriots were in great position for Brady down 5 with the ball. Then Brady was stripped, the first time they touched him all night, and the Eagles went up 8 with only like 40 seconds left.

In all three losses the lost the lead at

0:35, Giants ended perfect season after miraculous catch by David Tyree. Pats also dropped an easy pick on the game winning drive

0:55, Giants win after Brady & Welker fail to connect on wide open reception that would have put the game away. The Giants then drive like 98 years aided by another incredible reception by Mario Manningham

2:21, Eagles win late, aided somewhat by the league unofficially changing the "reception rules" before the SB, although they didn't make it official until this season. Then the uncharacteristic Brady late turnover


PS: No excuses, the Giants and the Eagles won those games and that's that, I'm just pointing out that their losses were also all "a game of inches". There are bad calls and missed calls in every game, and then there are a handful of plays that could have changed the outcome of every game.

At the end of the day, you are what you are, and the Patriots are 5-3 in the SB during this amazing run


well said Willie!
 

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