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NE/IND, Pinny spread as of Monday PM? Charity of choice again? Same wager?

I feel a monkey coming off our backs ...
 

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You got it.Pinny spread,except no juice. Mon. 7pm.

talk to ya then to firm up.

I'm going to the game too...can't wait its going to be a high scoring shootout.

But you can't have the Pats...lol.
 

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No Ty Law, everything on Indy's offence clicking like Dorothy's heels, the law of averages saying a win streak can't last forever. Freeney, meet Brady; Brady, meet Freeney.

Pinny sits at +1 at the moment. If no half pt. comes up, let's make up totals as a tie-breaker. Closest to the number wins. Deal?

Talk to you tomorrow night.
 

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No Ty Law
Its the damn media again...one thing they continualy fail to point out is that they went 8-1 without Ty Law.
Peyton and his ponies will be up against a different pedigree.
 

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Fact of the Week

Th Patriots surrendered 15.0 PPG in the six games Ty Law played this season and 15.1 PPG in the nine games since he's been injured.
 

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Patriot said:
Its the damn media again...one thing they continualy fail to point out is that they went 8-1 without Ty Law.
Peyton and his ponies will be up against a different pedigree.

You guys need to get ahead early and solidly if Dillon is to save this game for you. Poole out, Law out, Seymour Questionable. This is not the same team we played last year, or Week 1.

How do you plan on stopping Manning, Harrison, Wayne, Stokely, James, Rhodes and Mungro? Crowd noise???

Fun fun fun.
 

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From footballfacts.com

Let's nip this Law thing in the bud

Cold, Hard Football Facts for the week of Jan. 6-12, 2005



This “New England can’t win without Ty Law” thing will soon take on a life of its own.

We’ll have a full preview of the Indianapolis-New England game, and all the divisional contests, but we wanted to nip this Law thing in the bud Monday morning before it grows into a stinking, gangly weed that chokes off the nutrients of common sense and perspective. Otherwise, the media will have you convinced by Wednesday that the 14-2 defending Super Bowl champions have absolutely no shot against 13-4 Indy even though they're playing in an arena that will have gone 755 days since witnessing a New England loss.

We’ve heard for weeks now that New England’s secondary has been “exposed” with Law on the sidelines. The truth is quite a bit different. Sometimes you wonder if folks in the media actually pick up a gamebook or look at the statlines. Apparently, that’s not as sexy as crafting an inane storyline. But here’s something they don’t seem to be aware of: in nine games since Law’s been out of the lineup, the Patriots have more interceptions (14) than touchdown passes allowed (12).

Fortunately, perspective and common sense are cultivated by the green thumb of the gridiron, the Cold, Hard Football Facts, which quickly nipped this Law thing in the bud. This is what you bring up at the water cooler when someone tells you the Patriots can’t win in the playoffs without Law.

• In six games with Law in the lineup, the Patriots surrendered 90 points, or 15.0 points per game.

• In nine games without Law in the lineup, the Patriots surrendered 136 points, or 15.1 points per game.

• The Patriots gave up four TD passes in six games with Law in the lineup (0.67 per game).

• The Patriots gave up 12 TD passes in nine games without Law in the lineup (1.3 per game).

• The Patriots surrendered a total of 18 TD passes this year (1.1 per game). Only six teams were stingier in pass defense. (New England also gave up two touchdown passes during the Pittsburgh game in which Law was injured.)

• New England intercepted seven passes with Law in the lineup (1.2 per game).

• New England intercepted 14 passes without Law in the lineup (1.6 per game).

• New England intercepted 21 passes this season. Only six teams intercepted more. None of those six teams (Carolina, Buffalo, San Diego, Seattle, Houston and Baltimore) is still in the playoffs.

• Despite the fact that the New England secondary has been “exposed,” only one team, Cincinnati, passed for more than 300 yards or more than two touchdowns against it.

• The Patriots are one Tom Brady hairball against Miami away from being 9-0 without Law in the lineup.

We left the Pittsburgh game out of the equation because Law was injured during the game and we weren’t really sure how to work it into the comparisons without divvying up the game based on the time he went down.

But Pittsburgh did score all 34 points after Law went down in the first quarter. So even if we include the entire game in the without-Law equation, the Patriots have surrendered 17.0 points per game since he's been injured. Of course, that’s how many points per game the Patriots surrendered in 2001. That season ended with New England shutting down the St. Louis Rams which, as you will see later this week, was a much stronger team than the 2004 Colts.

The bottom line is this: Ty Law’s a great, great player and the Patriots would certainly be better off were he healthy and ready to play. But even without Law in the lineup, the New England secondary has remained one of the strongest in football, while players like Don Davis, Earthwind Moreleand, Randall Gay and Troy Brown have, as a unit, acquitted themselves quite well.

In fact, if we look only at the statistical performance, there's been little to no drop off in the secondary's performance with Law on the sidelines.
 

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What is Seymour's status for game? I think his availabilty is more important than Law's at this point. The drop-off to their next best pass rusher is a lot farther than at defensive back where Pats have already re-adjusted to playing w/o Law and nicely.
 

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bulldog77 said:
What is Seymour's status for game? I think his availabilty is more important than Law's at this point. The drop-off to their next best pass rusher is a lot farther than at defensive back where Pats have already re-adjusted to playing w/o Law and nicely.

According to covers.com, he's listed as day-to-day.

Pat: goody for you guys that you managed to pull off 8 wins without Ty Law, but you haven't had to face Manning and his plethora of receiving threats. You KNOW you need strong corners to beat us. At any rate, I expect Dungy to run the ball heavy in the first half, just to mess with Belichek. Week 1 we handed you 446 yards in the air and 202 on the ground. Now we get you without Law and a beaten up Seymour.

Fun fun fun.
 

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Fun fun fun.
yes yes yes

I like to whistle passing the graveyard...It will come down to who has the ball last or the last person to touch it.
Adam Vinateris big toe???:eek:
 

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Panda one of us is late,or one of us is real late.

I found Pats -1 at this time at Pinny.

I'll take 65 for a total (34-31 good guys)

OK??

CYA
 

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I think we're both late. It was -1 at Pinny last night, too. I'll take 64 as the total.

Done, and good luck. I promise to be diplomatic should the need arise.

No, really, I swear. :)
 

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OK Panda I guess we are good to go.

Pats -1
Total tie breaker 65 for me.

X
Colts +1 64.

same amount $$
 

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Good luck, and have a FABULOUS time at the game! This should be a good one!

I'll touch base with you tonight.
 

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Bloody hell. I'm not even entirely sure what happened (grandma's 90th birthday party on at the same time) but every time I looked up, the Pats had a first frikkin' down. Ack.

Email me your mailing info and I'll get a cheque off to your first thing tomorrow.

Congratulations ....

Go Steelers!!!!!!
 

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