Parrot Grasps Concept of Zero

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LiveScience.com Fri Jul 8, 2:06 PM ET


A parrot has grasped the concept of zero, something humans can't do until at least the toddler phase, researchers say.

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Alex, a 28-year-old African gray parrot who lives in a lab at Brandeis University in Massachusetts, has a brain the size of a walnut. But when confronted with no items on a tray where usually there are some, he says "none."



Zero is thought to be a rather abstract concept even for people. Children typically don't grasp it until age three or four, Brandeis researchers say. Some ancient cultures lacked a formal term for zilch, even as recently as the Middle Ages.



Feathered phenom



Alex is a fairly skilled counter. In a test, he said "none" when items on his tray were cleared. More trials were done, and the avian Einstein "consistently demonstrated the ability to identify zero quantity by saying the label 'none,'" the study concluded.



Alex's null may be slightly different than your nada.



"Alex has a zero-like concept; it's not identical to ours but he repeatedly showed us that he understands an absence of quantity," said Irene Pepperberg, who led the research



The result, published in the current issue of the Journal of Comparative Psychology, adds to growing evidence that birds and other animals are smarter than we thought.



A 2003 study in the journal Nature, for example, found that common marsh birds called coots can recognize and count their own eggs, even when other eggs are in the nest.



Black-capped chickadees were recently found to warn colleagues of danger by chirping about the size and actual threat of individual predators. The language of prairie dogs includes a word for humans.



Some animal intelligence is hauntingly familiar, like the male monkeys that pay to see female monkey bottoms. And studies show that monkeys, dogs and rats all know how to laugh.



There are obvious limits to animal intelligence, of course. Take the 450 sheep who recently jumped to their deaths for no apparent reason.



Parroting behavior?



One question that dogs animal intelligence research is whether remarkable, humanlike behaviors are innate and truly cerebral or if a creature is just parroting a trainer.



"It is doubtful that Alex's achievement, or those of some other animals such as chimps, can be completely trained," Pepperberg said. "Rather, it seems likely that these skills are based on simpler cognitive abilities they need for survival, such as recognition of more versus less."



Pepperberg said the study could help shed light on human learning disabilities.



She now plans to find out how well Alex can add and subtract.

Maybe Alex should go to work for our CIA assessing WMD capabilities.
 

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So, a parrot knows what the chances are of winning The Iraqi Quagmire, much more than the president:

NONE.
 
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How bout the Parrot vs Cheneys Trained Chimp in a Jeopardy shootout?

Bush -130 (with Rices help and miked like during the debates)

Parrot - 165 (with Bush on his own)
 

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This parrot makes me wanna scowl. In Texass we he a saying if it repeat everything like a parrot then it works for my ol' good buddy Dick.

Did I get it right, Dick?
 
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I see that all of the Rx Libs have a comment for this phenomena where they all want to equate it to the Bush administration.

I look at 911 and I want to save America from more death and destruction; the libs see a parrot that can count zero and they all equate it to the Bush administation in a negative way.

I guess it says something about our differing philosophies on national defense and the ability of libs to rationally compare the intellect of a pet bird to the US government.

I look at a half glass of water and see the glass as being half full; the libs look at the same half glass and wonder why the Bush administration won't raise taxes!

Go figure?
 
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What's really funny is that Parrot understands "Terrorism" and well the liberal's are still staring saying huh???
 
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The Right Wing said:
What's really funny is that Parrot understands "Terrorism" and well the liberal's are still staring saying huh???

If the parrot "understands" terrorism the way you do, he'll be angling to invade Greenland one of these days.
 
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Ebu:

C'mon, lets give the Parrot more credit than that .... Right Wing can give Bush a good one when it comes to intelligence but The Parrot would kill Right Winger!

"Ok, for $1000, Right Winger, name the capital of Iraq?"

""Alex, what is Melbourne?"
 

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