Panthers vs. VIKINGS -3.5! LOOK OUT!!

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I spotted this game almost immediately when looking over the lines on Tuesday morning. So what's wrong with it? It stinks to high heaven is what!

If you go back to last week, I took the Redskins vs. the Saints even though the public was all over the Saints. I kept asking myself WHY wasn't the line moving down even though a ton of money was coming in on the Saints. Well we know what happened in that game. Now I see the same situation.
We have the Vikings as a 3.5....not 3 mind you... but 3.5 point fave over the Panthers. We all should know that these teams have the exact OPPOSITE record both SU and ATS. Panthers are 2-0 SU and 1-0-1 ATS, while the Vikings are 0-2 SU and ATS. So why would Mr. Oddsmaker make the Vikings not only a fave, but a 3.5 point fave? Seems to me he's trying to get John Q. Public to take the Panthers in this game, and to make sure of it, he's added on the "hook" (1/2 point), just to make sure of it. And he's doing a great job, as fully 70% of the bets so far are on the Panthers....and it isn't even Sunday yet.

Let's not forget, that the oddsmaker knows all, so the fact that Frerrote is going to be the QB, and that Petersen has been missing practices is nothing new to him. And yet he isn't moving the line down even though the money is pouring in on the Panthers! :confused: Not even a half point! And I'm sure you all know by now, that Steve Smiths suspension is over, and he's going to play this weekend. Someone else is to, but I forget who!

So with all this information, and the money pouring in on the Panthers, he STILL hasn't moved the line down! Sure the Vikings have their backs to the wall, and are in a must win situation, but so are 7 other teams, but that doesn't mean they are going to win. Chiefs, Bengals, Dolphins, Rams, Lions, Jaguars and Browns are all in the same situation. I'll talk about the Browns in a few as they are the only other dog that has a higher amount of money on them then the fave.
So if you think I'm full of sh*t, you better bet the Panthers RIGHT NOW , because you aren't going to get that extra half on Sunday or maybe even tomorrow. At least you can buy up to 4 right now.

Now for the Brownies! Here's another screwy line. Ravens, who didn't play last week, are a 2.5 point fave over the Browns. Why a home team isn't at least a 3 point fave, just doesn't make sense. Matter of fact, I think this line is going lower! Ravens are 1-0 afterall, and had a extra weeks rest due to IKE! I really like this kid Flacco, and think he's going to be a real pro leading the Ravens. Last I looked, the Ravens are still the same ferocious defense that has been there for many moons! I really think the public is overating the Browns based on their play last year! And they are underating the Ravens and don't realize what this Flacco kid brings to the table. But this will work to our advantage as we take advantage of the oddsmakers line. Not that he's making the mistake...the public is. As I've stated many times before, the oddsmaker doesn't set the line as to what it should be, but what the public PERCEIVES it to be.

Always remember this folks, the oddsmaker isn't getting paid by YOU! You haven't sent him any money lately have you? Well neither have I, but I can decipher what he's trying to do! He is getting paid however, by the miriad of sports books in this nation, TO MAKE THEM MONEY! These books aren't paying for a service that is going to LOSE them money! Sure they aren't going to win all the time....who the hell would continue betting if that was the case? They just want their % over the course of the season, with more winning weeks than losing ones! So just keep this in mind when you are placing your bets!
 
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The Vikings opened at -3 with a bit of extra juice. In less than a day it was -3.5, so the books were respecting the early/sharp Vikings' bets. The Ravens opened at -1.5/-2, and the early money came in on them, pushing it up to -2.5 after a day or so. Now it's somewhere between 1 & 2.5 with varying juice as numbers in this fairly non-critical range get manipulated quite a bit by the books.
 

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Cruncher: I was aware of everything you said and I still liked the Panthers.
But when the news came out that Petersen was hurting and may not play, I couldn't resist any longer. I held my nose and bet the Panthers hoping that its not a sucker bet.
 

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Yeah, I bet the Panthers at +3 (+110) myself, lol. But seeing's how my lines have been in flux more so than usual this week as I've been trying weeks 1-3 for the first time (and rebuilding my spreadsheet in the process), I now have the game pegged pretty near the mark. If it were to be known that AP wasn't going to play I'd def. ride out the Panthers play, but as it gets closer to game time and he's still a game time decision I may back out of my Panthers play.
 

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sounds to me like someone trying to justify laying the worse number in football on a bad team.
 

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Sure seems like a no play here, valid reasons for both teams to win.
 

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VEGAS...

i believe your right on the $ with your observation, IMO, minnesota rolls carolina in a scoring fest and baltimore quicksands cleveland to sleep.

GAME.
 

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"Let's not forget, that the oddsmaker knows all, so the fact that Frerrote is going to be the QB, and that Petersen has been missing practices is nothing new to him."

:ohno:

Is the oddsmaker like the wizard of Oz? Or is he like the main man controlling the Matrix? Or is he the guy that controls Vegas, the NFL and the media and briefs all the Refs on Sunday night throught the Microchip imbeded in their inner ear canal. Or...or is he the leader of a vast delusional conspiracy perpetrated on bettors that use the internet by way of a multidimensional mouse that tracks your brainwaves.

Or is he just a hired number cruncher that has to split opinion and he overvalued the Vikings, meaning he made a mistake.
 

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Sometimes people over analyze these games, especially when looking at numbers. Bottom line to anyone who has WATCHED these teams the past two weeks (DirecTV subscribers raise your hands!):
1) Vikings stink. Top to bottom they are not getting it done. Tavaris stinks? Sure, but what about Shiancoes drop of a TD?? Without Peterson, this team would win 3-4 games. With him, maybe 6.
2) Panthers have "it" - the win on the road in SD was pretty gutsy. The TD to win it was impressive. To come back on a VERY good Bears D was also quite impressive.

So you have a crappy Vikings team and a gutsy, resilient Panthers team playing. Yes, in Minnesota. But the Dome didnt help much last week.

I say Panthers win comfortably 24-13.
 

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Sometimes people over analyze these games, especially when looking at numbers. Bottom line to anyone who has WATCHED these teams the past two weeks (DirecTV subscribers raise your hands!):
1) Vikings stink. Top to bottom they are not getting it done. Tavaris stinks? Sure, but what about Shiancoes drop of a TD?? Without Peterson, this team would win 3-4 games. With him, maybe 6.
2) Panthers have "it" - the win on the road in SD was pretty gutsy. The TD to win it was impressive. To come back on a VERY good Bears D was also quite impressive.

So you have a crappy Vikings team and a gutsy, resilient Panthers team playing. Yes, in Minnesota. But the Dome didnt help much last week.

I say Panthers win comfortably 24-13.

lol, I hope you have a small bet on this one brother,,,, lol no disrespecct, but,,,,,, hmmm,,, I think your in trouble,,,,

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Peterson has a tight hamstring, from my expirience it wont affect his ability at all. It just puts him at a higher risk of injury.
 

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stay away from me but i would take panthers. people are still on the vikes bandwagon for some reason unapparent to me
 

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interesting to note that majority of bets placed are on Carolina, yet line has remained -3 or even gone to -3.5. tells me either sharp $ coming in on Minny or books just aren't moving it because they welcome the Carolina backers...

Minny or nothing (nothing for me)
 

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interesting to note that majority of bets placed are on Carolina, yet line has remained -3 or even gone to -3.5. tells me either sharp $ coming in on Minny or books just aren't moving it because they welcome the Carolina backers...

Minny or nothing (nothing for me)

Or maybe thats what they want everyone to think? Im on Carolina +3.5 either way.
 

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Boys, say what you want about the odds maker knowing more than we do, but one thing is for sure is that the Panthers are a better team than the Vikings. They couldn't even move the ball on the Colts last week. The Colts. Come the F on.
 

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Boys, say what you want about the odds maker knowing more than we do, but one thing is for sure is that the Panthers are a better team than the Vikings. They couldn't even move the ball on the Colts last week. The Colts. Come the F on.


1) Colts have a very good defense

2) They moved the ball, just couldnt get TD's.
 

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reason Carolina is getting 3.5 is because powerrating # says so. Same reason they were getting 9 from Sandiego. Carolina should win here.
 

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reason Carolina is getting 3.5 is because powerrating # says so. Same reason they were getting 9 from Sandiego. Carolina should win here.


powerrating #? you think vegas just has some super system that tells them what to set lines at?? :nohead: surely they wouldnt take into account how a team plays against another team or in a certain type of stadium or how they can get even money. Would they look at how a teams offense shapes up against a particular defense. And one would be crazy to think that vegas would look at players that will actually be playing. NOPE THEY USE THE SUPER SYSTEM
 

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