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There is only two bowl bets that that I want to lock in now. The rest I will let the line movement dictate the timing. More details later on reasoning.

CAL -6.5 vs Miami (Emerald Bowl) 1 unit
Oregon vs Okl St. OVER 77, 1 unit
 

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There is only two bowl bets that that I want to lock in now. The rest I will let the line movement dictate the timing. More details later on reasoning.

CAL -6.5 vs Miami (Emerald Bowl) 1 unit
Oregon vs Okl St. OVER 77, 1 unit

Yeah Ducks, that over looks totally doable. 100 points isn't an impossibility either. I might even consider an adjusted totals bet for +300 or so if they jacked the number up another 10 points. Scoring points is all these 2 teams do. Would be nice to see Masoli run that offense right by the Cowboys, but that could prove to be a pretty small target at long range.
 

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Yeah Ducks, that over looks totally doable. 100 points isn't an impossibility either. I might even consider an adjusted totals bet for +300 or so if they jacked the number up another 10 points. Scoring points is all these 2 teams do. Would be nice to see Masoli run that offense right by the Cowboys, but that could prove to be a pretty small target at long range.

Cowboys lost their DC and since no one outside of USC has been able to contain Oregon I don't give OSU much of a chance. Same on the other side. The ducks will get scored on plenty. Score should get into 80's I would think.
 

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I have been monitoring the situation in Miami and have come away with the opinion that this team is in a slight state of dissaray. There is a lot of talk about players looking to transfer, coaches looking to interview etc. Overall one gets the sense that there is a lot of negativity now as the staff looks to further the transition to the younger guys.

In addition to the statistical advantages, I am more convinced now that this game could be somewhat one sided. I am going to add to my bet before this line moves to far away.


Adding CAL -6.5, 1 unit
 

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I have been monitoring the situation in Miami and have come away with the opinion that this team is in a slight state of dissaray. There is a lot of talk about players looking to transfer, coaches looking to interview etc. Overall one gets the sense that there is a lot of negativity now as the staff looks to further the transition to the younger guys.

In addition to the statistical advantages, I am more convinced now that this game could be somewhat one sided. I am going to add to my bet before this line moves to far away.


Adding CAL -6.5, 1 unit

UoweDucks, I would be very interested in finding your source of this information. Are these internal problems well discussed/publicized in the Miami Herald, or elsewhere? :think2:

If true, I agree 100% it will affect the way the Canes come into this game. If there is as much internal strife as you say, this could be a BLOWOUT in Cal's favor. :shocked:

Thanks in advance for any guidance you can provide me and the rext of the Rx on this matter! :toast:
 

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UoweDucks, I would be very interested in finding your source of this information. Are these internal problems well discussed/publicized in the Miami Herald, or elsewhere? :think2:

If true, I agree 100% it will affect the way the Canes come into this game. If there is as much internal strife as you say, this could be a BLOWOUT in Cal's favor. :shocked:

Thanks in advance for any guidance you can provide me and the rext of the Rx on this matter! :toast:

Two links here but there is a lot more on discontent with several older players who seem to feel as if they are being pushed out by the youngins.. A lot of that stuff I have gleaned from the boards... I'll track down some more later.

would be nice of some Miami fans could shed more insight but I've spent enough time looking into this to form an opinion.


http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/...ing_around_marve.html?cxntfid=blogs_inside_um
http://www.palmbeachpost.com/blogs/.../2008/12/08/nix_to_coach_auburn_unlikely.html
 

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Ducks,

I think the Bears have developed into a much better team than they have gotten credit for. It seems that too much attention has been paid to their QB issues. Inconsistency from both Longshore and Riley at times have kept the controversy alive. They've switched starting roles I can't remember how many times during the season, I'm sure at least twice. But according to my last recollection, both of them have been doing pretty well in recent outings, Riley being the most current starter. He's been inconsistent at times but he finished strong. Not many teams this year were able to put Stanford in their place. Cal did.

This game might turn into an exhibition for N.Calif. football fans. The players are approaching this game feeling loose and relaxed so I think we'll see plenty of good if not spectacular play from their skill position players... perhaps some big gainers and long punt returns etc. Jahvid Best's speed could kill them. I think they will move the ball with ease for for a good portion of the game.
 

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i had heard that marve might transfer, but i think him missing the game might be a benefit for um...better to have one qb than alternate, marve threw a bunch of ints and harris is more mobile...

i will be on cal, but one thing bothers me...they are just 2-4 vs bcs bowl teams, and those wins were by 7 opening day vs mich st, a game they should have won (team traveling across the country on opening day) and a 10 pt win in a thunderstorm vs oregon...really not the type of performances that give a lot of confidence to lay -7 vs a pretty good defensive team
 

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Here is another, from what I understand there is some serious discontent among the older players not recruited by the current coaching staff. CAL is a solid team with good senior leadership which always bodes well in bowls. I think Miami will really struggle vs the CAL 3-4 defense. How pumped will the Miami youngsters be to fly across country to play in a shit bowl? How well will they prepare with the knowledge that a multitude of their peers are looking to bolt????






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There's talk among Miami players that Shawnbrey McNeal and other seldom-used backups are looking at transferring, but UM is reluctant to grant releases before the bowl game.
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I had mentioned earlier that OSU will be without their DC in the Holiday bowl. The ducks offense is extremely difficult to prepare for and when I read articles like this I am more encouraged about the OVER.


OSU coaches hold group effort

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BY Scott Wright
Published: December 14, 2008


STILLWATER The Oklahoma State defense is moving ahead without its leader, but Tim Beckman’s departure to become the head coach at Toledo hasn’t hindered the Cowboys yet.

OU head coach Bob Stoops, left, and OSU head coach Mike Gundy talk before the game during the first half of the college football game between the University of Oklahoma Sooners (OU) and Oklahoma State University Cowboys (OSU) at Boone Pickens Stadium on Saturday, Nov. 29, 2008, in Stillwater, Okla. STAFF PHOTO BY NATE BILLINGS


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It’s just making everyone work a little harder.
Beckman was joined by graduate assistant Alex Golesh at Toledo, leaving the Cowboys with a shrinking group of defensive coaches, including only three who are actually on staff, along with a couple grad assistants.
"Everything’s the same — practice and structure, it’s all the same,” head coach Mike Gundy said. "We have to make up for two guys not being there. We pulled the guys off the road from recruiting the last few days so they could get structured.”
Plans in two key areas had to be resolved: how the defense would be managed and who would coach linebackers, the position previously handled by Beckman.
Defensive line coach Glenn Spencer has taken over the linebackers, and the game plan and scheming for Oregon in the Dec. 30 Holiday Bowl will be a group effort involving Spencer, safeties coach and special teams coordinator Joe DeForest and cornerbacks coach Jason Jones.
Assistant strength coach and former OSU defensive lineman Greg Richmond has stepped in to help out in practice.
"We’re a couple men short, but we’ve got good coaches in that room that have picked up the slack,” DeForest said. "The system’s in place. We just have to do a good job of continuing to do what we’ve done all year.”
And junior linebacker Andre Sexton says the players are helping shoulder some of the load.
"The players, as leaders, have got to step up and keep things going in practice, because we don’t have those two extra coaches to get on you,” he said.
 

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If Masoli plays as well in the Holiday Bowl as he did in the Civil War, the Ducks could win this one outright. Maybe it will get bet up and then a little shot on the moneyline will be worth the risk. Otherwise I think it's too close to call laying 11-10. Bah.
 

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If Masoli plays as well in the Holiday Bowl as he did in the Civil War, the Ducks could win this one outright. Maybe it will get bet up and then a little shot on the moneyline will be worth the risk. Otherwise I think it's too close to call laying 11-10. Bah.

I had mentioned on Gosooners thread that I am leaning to the ducks in this one. Probably not take the ML though.

One small item that hasn't been mentioned much is that the Oregon player who died this summer Todd Doxey was from SD. There will be a large contingent of his family members there. His death has been a big motivating factor for Oregon this year...
 

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I had mentioned on Gosooners thread that I am leaning to the ducks in this one. Probably not take the ML though.

One small item that hasn't been mentioned much is that the Oregon player who died this summer Todd Doxey was from SD. There will be a large contingent of his family members there. His death has been a big motivating factor for Oregon this year...

Now that's a real shot out of the blue, but I do remember his unfortunate accident in the McKenzie river last summer.
If you're right and it really does motivate the team (especially playing in S.D.,) the Duck side just got a whole lot stronger.
 

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Agree with the side here guys, nothing positive whatsoever coming out of the U these days.
 

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BYU vs AZ -3: I have been torn on this game. On one hand I think that AZ if they are playing well should be able to outscore BYU. On the other I have no idea how well the Cats will be prepared to handle the big BYU backs and if Hall is on his game and can keep AZ guessing on D then BYU has a shot as well. I think that AZ should have the motivational edge as this is the first bowl appearance for these kids and BYU has been here done that. If this were it I would be putting a half unit on AZ but a few things are telling me to lay off a side.

First, weather. It is COLD in LV right now and those conditions favor BYU.

Second, Vegas. BYU kids don't party, other schools do. And AZ has a coach who doesn't have a ton of experience prepping teams for bowl games.

And then there is this:

As best I can tell there seems to be legs to this rumor. It appears that Stoops may have floated his name to get a big contract extension. Funny thing is it may backfire on him.
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Published: 12.18.2008
Arizona Wildcats Football: Stoops says 'no comment' on Iowa State job
By Ryan Finley
ARIZONA DAILY STAR
LAS VEGAS — For the first time in his head coaching career, Mike Stoops is learning the flip side of success: A spot in the rumor mill.
Stoops, 47, said this afternoon that he has no comment on being mentioned as a possible finalist for the Iowa State football coaching job.
A Des Moines, Iowa radio station reported today that the UA coach is among two or three finalists for the Cyclones’ head coaching job.
Gene Chizik left ISU last week to become head coach at Auburn.
At practice today as the Wildcats prepare to play in Saturday's Las Vegas Bowl, Stoops chuckled when asked about the opening.
“I don’t have any comment,” Stoops said. “I’m getting ready to play a game here.”
Iowa State has not contacted the UA athletic department for permission to speak with Stoops, Arizona Athletic Director Jim Livengood said this afternoon.
The Wildcats will take on BYU in Saturday’s Las Vegas Bowl game at 6 p.m. Tucson time on ESPN. Arizona hasn’t played in the postseason since 1998.
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One thing that I am somewhat confident in is that this game should have a lot of points. Both teams are top 20 nationally in scoring offense and defensively each has issues that favor the other teams strengths. The total has dropped (I am guessing due to fears of snow, which does not look as likely now) and I am going to hit it small on the OVER 59.5, 1/2 Unit

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CAL -6.5 vs MIA, 2 units
UO/OSU OVER 77, 1 unit
AZ/BYU OVER 59.5, 1/2 unit
 

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Good luck Ducks,

I think that BYU/AZ total is very doable. Neither team should be held in the 20's.

I'm giving the Beaver/Panther Sun Bowl a good strong look on that total too. I think under may be the play as Oregon St. will likely resort to their defense to keep them in the game. Their defense may even score some of their points.

BOL this bowl season my friend.
 

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Thx guys,

Conan. I like that reasoning on the OSU game. I am also strongly considering taking Pitt. Not only do I question the beavs motivation their injury status is really bad. They have the look of a team that peaked too early. Now for a change it looks like Oregon is peaking at just the right time.
 

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