One More Time. What Is The Right Side?

[Rainbow]

Miami Heat opens a 2pt favorite and the line goes to 4 everywhere, One more time what is the right side? No doubt in my mind if you lay the 2PTS you will bring home the CABBAGE, I dont think you have none the best of it taking +4PTS, anytime you are betting into a CONCRETE line you are not stealing NOTHING. How can you lose in along run taking that much the best of the line, IMPOSSIBLE to lose. Alot of people are not sure who is the right side in this case, simply because the line moved 2pts. I know 100% for sure if you beat the line you beat the game, pretty STRONG when you beat the closing line by 2pts. I am not trying to argue about this, I would just like to hear from alot more posters on this. Thanks...

 

[PanchoSanza]

No ifs, ands, buts, if you get 2 points to the good vs the closing line, you bring home the $$ in the long run.

Anyone wo says different is wrong.:digit:

 

[D2bets]

I think this is true on average....but, consider that some of these moves are based on changes, like injuries, suspensions, lineup changes, etc. I think if you exclude all of these types of moves then it's not quite as clear. What you're really saying is that the gamblers are sharper than the linesmakers. You're betting on the gambler vs. the oddsmaker. Outside of any true info or situational changes I don't think it's that strong. Personally I'd just play both sides and not worry about it. Works for me.

 

[THE SHRINK]

If you get 2 points the better of it than the closing line, you will be a winner in the longrun GUARANTEED...

Just ask BW for starters...

Also, think about how much you have to lay when betting a 2 point favorite or to move a line 2 points...

HUGE advantage for the Player...

It's not nearly as favorable MIDDLING it because you are giving up your % advantage by betting the FAIR number for your middle...

You have ZERO advantage then, and are at a slight disadvantage because you are laying juice..

THE SHRINK

 

[DarrylParsons]

LOL, nice avatar Shrink!

I'd like to know why anyone spends time thinking about whether or not -2 is a good price when the line has gone to -4

Most of the time it will be, of course, but if it's not available anymore, so what?

The interesting question is whether +4 or -4 are good bets or not. Sometimes the answer will be that +4 is a good bet, sometimes -4, and a lot of the time neither will be because of the juice.

Knowing that -2 is a better number than -4 is nice, but it won't do you any good if you can't get -2 anywhere.

 

[Rainbow]

I think this is true on average....but, consider that some of these moves are based on changes, like injuries, suspensions, lineup changes, etc. I think if you exclude all of these types of moves then it's not quite as clear. What you're really saying is that the gamblers are sharper than the linesmakers. You're betting on the gambler vs. the oddsmaker. Outside of any true info or situational changes I don't think it's that strong. Personally I'd just play both sides and not worry about it. Works for me.

BW is defintely SHARPER than the oddsmaker, not even close.

 

[Rainbow]

LOL, nice avatar Shrink!

I'd like to know why anyone spends time thinking about whether or not -2 is a good price when the line has gone to -4

Most of the time it will be, of course, but if it's not available anymore, so what?

The interesting question is whether +4 or -4 are good bets or not. Sometimes the answer will be that +4 is a good bet, sometimes -4, and a lot of the time neither will be because of the juice.

Knowing that -2 is a better number than -4 is nice, but it won't do you any good if you can't get -2 anywhere.

Darryl on another thread the other day alot of people was saying +4 could be a better wager than the opening line at -2. we were talking about what is the right side and the wrong side.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

What we were really talking about was when does the wrong side become the right side? It was some total that got steamed from 190 1/2 to 198. I proposed at some point the wrong side would also be right. Was a bad example because your right side lost, never even made 190. But the under 198 wrong side won. Or was it a bad example? All I keep hearing is the right side is the steam, which if you are not originating, or tipped early, you will never get. So you are following late, at not even close to the original right side line. Might be good behavior to set up a middle for the originators of the right side, but most of the value is bought out. And in this what have you done for me lately world, the steam has been less than stellar. Just like our example, 7 1/2 point move, all bad. Have to agree with DP and D2 here. You may be in a position to deal with the movers, but I assure you most forum members are not. I liken it to an outhouse in the hot summer. First ones in, hey this is not all that bad, last ones, man, this **** stinks. We are not all so special, like you Rainbow. We do not have the World's best betting into us, we are lowly RX members, you never hesitate to tell us that.

Best Wishes...OF:digit:

 

[Rainbow]

What we were really talking about was when does the wrong side become the right side? It was some total that got steamed from 190 1/2 to 198. I proposed at some point the wrong side would also be right. Was a bad example because your right side lost, never even made 190. But the under 198 wrong side won. Or was it a bad example? All I keep hearing is the right side is the steam, which if you are not originating, or tipped early, you will never get. So you are following late, at not even close to the original right side line. Might be good behavior to set up a middle for the originators of the right side, but most of the value is bought out. And in this what have you done for me lately world, the steam has been less than stellar. Just like our example, 7 1/2 point move, all bad. Have to agree with DP and D2 here. You may be in a position to deal with the movers, but I assure you most forum members are not. I liken it to an outhouse in the hot summer. First ones in, hey this is not all that bad, last ones, man, this **** stinks. We are not all so special, like you Rainbow. We do not have the World's best betting into us, we are lowly RX members, you never hesitate to tell us that.

Best Wishes...OF:digit:

Frog, that total did lose that night, but I can assure you if you book a total like that consistenly, you will go dead broke trying to book it. Frog remember one thing if you beat the line you beat the game real SIMPLE, Why is it so hard to understand that? and I have NEVER said you or anybody else was a low RX member, now you are trying to really put words in my mouth. I am done arguing with you, nobody in the world can win an arguement from you, after all you have ALL the answers.

 

[OMNIVOROUS FROG]

Rainbow in comparison to the people you know, we couldn't shine their shoes, they would eat us for lunch. As far as capping, we could not make the standby list. There is not one capper here you would even consider, vs. your friends. You forgot more in your sleep that I could ever know. I have been listening to your, me and my friends are better than anyone here crap for weeks. These are your words Mr. Advanced Alzheimers. Nobody here could hold a candle to the people you know. And you constantly remind us of that point and who you know. Well you know what Rainbow, I do not know of many people who like being told by someone they do not measure up to anyone they know. Those are your words Rainbow. Twist and squirm, talk in circles, but that is how you act on this forum. If this was a reality show, you would be first to get voted off.

Best Wishes...OF:finger:

You can take your better than thou attitude and shove it.

 

[Rainbow]

Rainbow in comparison to the people you know, we couldn't shine their shoes, they would eat us for lunch. As far as capping, we could not make the standby list. There is not one capper here you would even consider, vs. your friends. You forgot more in your sleep that I could ever know. I have been listening to your, me and my friends are better than anyone here crap for weeks. These are your words Mr. Advanced Alzheimers. Nobody here could hold a candle to the people you know. And you constantly remind us of that point and who you know. Well you know what Rainbow, I do not know of many people who like being told by someone they do not measure up to anyone they know. Those are your words Rainbow. Twist and squirm, talk in circles, but that is how you act on this forum. If this was a reality show, you would be first to get voted off.

Best Wishes...OF:finger:

You can take your better than thou attitude and shove it.

Frog, I am done arguing with you, I think you are highly EDUCATED with book sense. I dont need you to do my thinking for me, when it comes to Sports. Take you a chill pill and chill out, be HAPPY... GL on your plays today...