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I have gotten rave email reviews about this book. Each email that I receive, I feel less comfortable with the book. It seems like a new shilling method. Here are a couple nice messages from people I don't think I know.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What do you think of OklahomaSportsbetting.com? i think they are #1. They pay. And they pay fast with no problem. They give great bonus. And they are honest and friends. They are the best. I got paid 2 times; each $2500. They pay less than 60 mins. And if over 60 mins, they cover western union fee. They are great. I am a VIP and they treat me like a King. What do you think? Any comments? Thankyou. OklahomaSportsbetting.com is #1.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> i received a payout from oklahomasportsbetting, 4500,no problems
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Could be real players with a real interest in sharing their views. Could be real strange shills with a new tactic.

Either way, I'll stick with known, reputable books.
 
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How can I do this Johnny? They are coming in hotmail & I am not sure how to check for the IP.

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i dont understand why is this book always on the headlines
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
How can I do this Johnny? They are coming in hotmail & I am not sure how to check for the IP.

Thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

You have to check the e-mail header file for the IP #
 

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i asked a friend of mine that knows about these things and he gave me the same opinion as bettorstalk.com about getting the IP # from the email header.its probably the only way through hotmail. i am somehow concerned if this is shilling cause i do have an account there.
 
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Ok, pardon my ignorance but how do I find the header for the email?

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in outlook express right click it and select properties

then details



should look like this:

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General have you found anything yet
 
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The Ip's are not an exact match. I used http://www.dnsstuff.com/ and looked for matches. I am no expert but I didnt see anything to identify as the same person.
 
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Kinda weird, however I will jump in and give my 2 cents about OSB. I signed up and deposited just under a dime to try them out. I was real hesitant as they are rather unknown, but mvbski had told me about them and said they were a good out to have. I figured I would give them a shot with a small deposit.

There service was great from the get go. It really seems like they want your business and try hard to earn it. No complaints on the C/S end.

The lines they offer are competitive. They have had a couple of lines that were opinionated and had value in them. For bases, they have a dime line up to around 160 which is good.

I requested a dime payout and got it within a few hours of my request. No problems getting paid which I was VERY happy about. Obviously my number one concern.

You can tell they are new. When you call in bets, it isn't as smooth as some books and I don't believe they have too many staff members. You may hold a little longer than you would at some books when asking questions or placing a bet. However, it is clear that they are trying and I appreciate that.

All in all, I am satisfied with my dealings there. That said, I have no first hand knowledge of their financial situation or people behind the book, but I do know that I got paid very quick and have liked what I see. I kinda like to see the underdog pull through and I wish OSB the best and will continue to play there for now.
 

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i have to say that i was a bit concerned, but i totally agree with peteep, i have got the same impression of this book
 

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I just need some info cause I am interested in playing here they have nice promos i recive this by them today.

50% reload bonus!
No team like the home team
Open your account, deposit between now and the NCAA Final Game and if Oklahoma State wins the NCAA title then you get a 50% reload bonus good for deposits up to $5000. Rules 7x play through of deposit + bonus. Cannot be combined with any other offers Good for those accounts opened between 03/30/04 – 04/05/04 that have registered at least one successful deposit of $250 or more.


I usually put money with sportsbook.com but want to tried this one out so just to make sure. There url is http://www.oklahomasportsbetting.com

Thanks need info as soon as possible on them.


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I have an account there. They have paid me over 2500 dollars
I hope Oklahoma St wins it all!
I love the 30% Unlimited Signup Bonus
Feel free to email me Okiest2004@yahoo.com
I'd be glad to get the referral bonus
email me

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Well I checked a few things. They're in Costa Rica. They don't even seem to be on the radar of the watchdogs yet. They have bonus deals which lead me to think, "If it seems too good to be true, it probably is."

I could go to town on that kind of bonus structure at a legit book but I wouldn't risk a deposit at this place. I'm not centering out oklahomasportsbook - I don't know them - I would feel the same about any book with those characteristics. I guess it depends on your style and how much risk you're willing to take. These books have to establish themselves in the industry and show they can make payouts consistently before they get a sniff of my money.

Sportsbook.com, by the way, has a horrible reputation. This forum is littered with complaints about them.

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Hey Uncle-Mudcat,
They have paid me 2500 dollars
I also use Olympic


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Thanks Uncle-Mudcat I’ll give it a try later on see if anybody as anything to say about it and I will contact there customer support for further info thanks.

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OkieSt04 how long have you been playing there.

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Hey Mildred,

I have been playing with them for about 2 months now


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OkieSt04

And what about there pay outs are the fast. Cause i am interested in there 60 minutes pay out thing very nice.

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Mildred,

I have got 3 withdrawls from them

First time it took 25 minutes
Second time it took about 15 minutes
Third time it took about 10 minutes

i was amazed and praised their customer support for quick payouts


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Just let me know if you are going to use them and i will give you my Acct #

Thanks

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OkieSt04

Wow sounds very good and what about there customer support did you have any trouble get in touch with them.

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I have contacted them several times
They will get back to you in about 5-10 minutes usually in the daytime
If you email them at night it takes about 20 minutes



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OkieSt04

Okay i am surfing there site looking further but there promotion are crazy i am sure that by the end of the day i will become a member yes.

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Mildred,

My account number is OK45686

Feel free to email me if i dont reply in this thread

Okiest2004@yahoo.com

thanks

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OkieSt04

I see that they offer horse racing. And they take phone wagers.

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OkieSt04

Okay perfect ill do this by the end of the day thanks.

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Mildred,

Thanks

I have never bet Horse Racing and Yes they take Phone Wagers
They also have In-Game betting on alot of games
Also has good lines

Just tell me when you sign up and i will email them to claim my bonus


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OkieSt04

Okay i signup with them and deposit $500 and referred you with your account number OK45686 so you should have your referral credited.



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Thanks!
I will email them

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LOL!! Good things you guys found each other! Judging by your numbers of posts, you both created identities here just to discuss this incredibly obscure topic - and you found each other - and it looks like you have come to a harmonious accord! Fabulous!

Hey maybe other people will become equally convinced to use this incredibly obscure book because of the persuasive direction your dialogue went.



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Uncle-Mudcat

Just cause i am posting here asking some question doesn’t mean that i have any part to do with these guys and just cause it is the first time i post here doesn’t mean either that i have to do anything with these guys. Please asking legit question here that all.

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They are telling me I cannot claim my Bonus because i have no money in my account now!

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OkieSt04

Okay are going to deposit.


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They are telling me know you have to ROLLOVER Your Deposit+Bonus 4 times for me to get my BONUS!

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I have already deposited alot of money with this book

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Mildred

Please email me

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Mudcat - I agree with everything you say.

I usually do - I think you are a great poster and an asset to covers. Much Props.



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Hey guys - What do you think of the book

www.thisisthebiggestshillpostihavereadinmylifeBOOK.com ?



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good book I have been with them around 3 months best CS around and I know its my first post but you have to break your chery sometime LOL just call there CS and ask for Jack he will help you out

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Agreed Van and Mudcat, this one was easy to spot.



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VANZACK - The funny thing is this sports book they are referring to calls me 2 times a week. Have you ever heard of them?

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Bookies - never heard of them. I generally am VERY wary about playing anywhere except the top 10. In fact I wont play anywhere that isnt a top 10.

With a bonus structure like this this book CANT stay in business. Its just a matter of time IMO. Maybe you get paid now - but there will be a day...

Also, if sportsbookreview and other watchdog sites dont grade them - thats another black mark.

Just my opinion but I WONT PLAY anywhere that I have to worry about anything other than winners.

GL

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Van - I updated the Oly post. Do you deal with 5 dimes? I heard very good things about it. I am just cautious right now with Olympic until I get answers.

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Ive never played at 5 dimes but they have a very good reputation.

What about Pinnacle? Im not sure you can beat them unless you need call in service.

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THAT WAS FUNNY AS HELL!!!




THANKS FOR THE LAUGH, GUYS!!!



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Vanzack - What the hell is this suppose to mean?

What about Pinnacle? Im not sure you can beat them unless you need call in service.

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LOL, this thread is friggin hilarious.

Mildred,

I have got 3 withdrawls from them

First time it took 25 minutes
Second time it took about 15 minutes
Third time it took about 10 minutes

i was amazed and praised their customer support for quick payouts

These idiots are like dumb and dumber, nice schtick guys.



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Bookies - I said:

Pinnacle is a great book. Its very hard to beat (match) what they offer. Low vig. Great cust svc. But you cant call in on the phone.

Why do we have so much trouble communicating? Good luck bro.



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My bad................Thanks for the info!

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lifemisspent

(These idiots are like dumb and dumber, nice schtick guys.)

I think that YOU ARE THE idiot here buddy, cause honestly like i said i am not affiliated with them or this guy OkieSt04 i ask a faire question i only wanted to have info on this book that’s all. Not to be treated as idiot by you so please be careful of what you say cause I I think that you are the dumb ass here.

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"Mildred" if you're worried about looking like a dumbass, you should stop talking. Because if you're not a shill, that means you came along into this forum which is loaded with information about all kinds of top sportsbooks, and you let some dude with about 3 posts (at the time) talk you into depositing at some high-risk book so he can get a referral bonus.

If that's not dumbass, I don't know what is. That scenario is in Chapter 1 of the Dumbass handbook.

(Frankly, the fact that you and OkieSt make the EXACT same errors with your English makes me sure you're just one person - but I'll just play along for a second more.)

So "Mildred", you've only got 2 choices. You're either a dumbass shill or just a dumbass. If there is another choice for this situation, you'll have to explain it to me.


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(Frankly, the fact that you and OkieSt make the EXACT same errors with your English makes me sure you're just one person - but I'll just play along for a second more.)


Exactly what I was going to say next. Listen Mildred if you're gonna come in here and try to sucker us all in to depositing money with a fly by night operation and least you should have the common courtesy of learning how to spell in english. All you are doing is offering more proof that you indeed are from Costa Rica.


Get it through you are doing more bad to your sportsbook than good with this kind of behaviour.




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OkieSt04

Okay i am surfing there site looking further but there promotion are crazy i am sure that by the end of the day i will become a member yes.



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I gotta admit, this was one of the best shill threads of all time. Props to vanzack and others for spotting this nonsense.

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I am surprise to see how you people could think that i am doing this to promote there site. The only reason I posted here was to have some info on this site. That’s all nothing more, for you people to say that I am the same person as OkieSt04 that’s total nonsense to me it sounds totally unfair to say things like that wow.

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I have never even heard of this book. I will say that a 30% unlimited bonus should be the red flag. Somehow I get the feeling if I sent them 10 dimes they would not give me $3000 for the bonus and if they did they are out of their minds. I have to agree with Mudcat and Vanzak this guy has to be a shill.

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the major at majorwager.com has posted a very negative thread about this sportsbook today

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I actually dont beleive this is a 'schill' job...

OkieSt has been BANNED from here numerous times and has many allegations from other posters concerning referrals & acting as a s'book agent. I'm willing to bet he has never played at the book in question and was just tryin to get the 'free $$'.

see his other thread for more details.



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Thanks to this guy i deposit $500 dollars (that is why I ask in the first place if anyone new the book) . So to make sure I called and spoke with management and they told me that osb is a 100% legit operation (Hope that everything they told me is the real deal).



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OK I would like to clarify a few things here. My name is Mike Montanero and i am the General Manager of Oklahomasportsbetting.com and I am greatly concerned about this thread. I do not usually respond to threads such as this but exceptions must be made here. The poster Okie04 who so generously posted positive things regarding our book, unfortunately is NOT an active player of ours. He opened his account yesterday 03/30/04 and has NEVER posted any monies with us nor have we ever paid him. I will be happy to provide proof of this information to this forums moderator if he so wishes. Okie04's motivation was very cleverly pointed out by awol256 and i would personally like to thank him/her. Basically this Okie04 character has attempted to do nothing more than abuse our refer-a-friend bonus policies by attempting to schill and have others use his name as a referral. As a result Okie04 acct has been closed, he will not get the refer a friend bonus, I am giving it to Mildred instead as he is the one who was hurt the most by Okie04. Schilling is very negative for the industry, we do not do it nor do we condone others for doing it on our behalf. Hopefully Oklahomasportsbetting's honesty regarding this issue, even though I put us a risk by acknowledging that this guy is a schill, will far outweigh any damage done by this whole situation. I have personally spoken with Mildred and explained the situation and hopefully he is satisfied that we will do the right thing. Pay players who win hassle free and offer great customer service and competitive lines is what we are focusing on, not schilling on post boards hoping to attract one or two players. Okahomasportsbetting is committed to offering the best service out there and hopefully this is one more step to achieving this goal. My email is management@oklahomasportsbetting.com feel free to email any questions or concerns.
Mike. M.


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score another for awol...aka sherlock holmes

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oklahoma seems to be a good book I've been using them for a couple weeks and so far so good, good custormer service pretty good lines and good bonus and promotions, I have yet to make a withdrawal but if all goes well tonight I might make one tomorrow anyway from what i've seen they are a good book.

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Good job Awol. You are Sherlock Holmes, I will be John Holmes.

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OK great OSB. How do you expect smart players to take you seriously with your REDICULOUS bonus structure? How can you offer 30% lifetime bonuses and things like "if okst wins..."?

Books have gone under for smaller bonuses than this. How do you expect us - the public who have been stung by bonus shops before - to expect your business model to be long term?



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This is funny ass shit.

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You know, I considered the possibility that this was a scammer/sucker thing and not a shill job - but I just couldn't believe anyone could get sucked in so fast and easily as Mildred, and just start following the financial instructions of some internet stranger at the snap of his fingers.

If we now have the true story then I owe Mildred an apology. I'm sorry - I was unduly nasty back there. I just hope this experience has been unpleasant enough to make you be more careful about blindly obeying internet strangers in the future. I'm not meaning to preach but, come on.

What I don't understand is why OkieSt wouldn't get the referral bonus.

Just because I'm cynical right to the end, I have to ask awol256: did anyone from Covers take up osb's offer to show proof?



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Update: As of 9:30pm est 03/31/04 no one from covers has contacted me asking for proof, the offer of course still stands. Vanzack you may be interested in the following thread posted at another gambling forum dealing with your concern.
Mike M.

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l am trying to post the link using the covers link button, but it obviously its not working. Anyway search osb on the rx and you will see an intresting thread regarding our bonus offers.


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proof of what?

just for some clarification...I've been monitoring this beetinguy36 since he was hassleing covers about $200 he won in a contest...something didnt smell right about this guy. Then I saw accusations from some solid posters here that he ripped them off with bets they made via AOL IM. So we banned him from this site.

He has signed back up and has been banned numerous times since...one being 'BigEastFan'. He was banned for running another scam where he was getting people to sign up for sportsbooks, promising them to deposit so they could get a referral also. Long story short, he allegedly didnt come through on his end.

Then another accusation came in that he was posing as a BetWWTS agent and he started taking action/money from a poster here. Long story short again, the poster ended up goin on a hot streak and was stiffed.

Then this OkieSt character signs up yesterday...showed all the signs of the previous names...Asked covers for verification that they were the same ips they all matched.

The Covers admin hasent really been involved...just a hunch I had that the original 'id' this guy had would become a scammer.

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like I said before I have enjoyed playing there,they are a nice change in this otherwise seedy buisness

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GREAT CS OSB!!

You cant post the post here? you cant answer my question directly?

WHAT A JOKE OSB!



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The proof I was interested in is that osb is who he says he is. All I see here is yet another brand new identity contributing to this thread (I think that's about 4 altogether now).

Whatever - I'm not sure it matters at this point. Maybe it's time to call an end to the case of The Scammer, the Sucker and the Fledgeling Sportsbook.

As always, good job Covers team!



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Vanzack I am not avoiding your question, simply trying to save everyone alot of time by refering you to a discussion regarding your concern at another forum If telling you all to type www.therx.com and seaching oklahoma sportsbetting in the search box is iterperted as avoiding the question then you and i disagree.
Uncle mud... You want to know who i am well, call our toll free # or email me at management@oklahomasportsbetting.com and I will repsond.
But for those of you who cant, wont or for whatever reason dont want to do your own research and want to take my word for it , here is a synopsis of what was said in the other post. Others has concerns about our high initial bonus. The answer to your concern is the same as it was on the other post The 30% bonus is for limited time, so if you want to extrapilate a long term business model from a limited time bonus then go ahead but we dont and i am sure that most players underdstand the difference. Yes our bonus is high, however as a new book you are damed if you offer low bonus because no one gives you a shot and you are damed if you do offer high bonus because you (the players) assume that it is a scam. Look if you dont like our book then dont play here, it that simple. Our motives are honest and honorable and our actions here prove that. I am sure we are the first book in the history of this posting board that has come out against a shiller for our own book!!!! If you dont like books who work like that then thats your perogative.
Have a nice day and I look forward to seeing you all at oklahomasportsbetting.com
Mike M.

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This morning i got this email from OkieSt04 Asking me this:

Can i have your Acct Id:
u have to rollover 3 times
tell me when u have rolled it over 3 times or lost the $500. So i can claim the refferal bonus.


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Send him back an email telling him to go **** him self. Anyway heres an update on the withdrawal I made today it took about 2 hours hassel free.

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lol...exactly what dstocks said...


tell that ****er to go **** himself...and tell him to go to Gamblers' Anonymous.


I thought they closed his account? osb?

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Thanks for the update Dstocks i send an email back telling him to leave me alone and that if he as problems to contact Mike Montanero from osb.

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good for you Mildred this clown sounds like a real gem

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I was checking out this site when noticing this?

Payout requests can be made 24 hours a day, 7 days a week. Payouts are processed Monday through Friday from 8am - 5pm EST. Any payout request received before 4 pm EST will begin processing the same day. Payouts received after 4 PM eST will be processed on the following business day.

24 hours 7 days a week. But yet they are only processed Mon - Friday?

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DSTOCKS - question for you. This is your quote from your last post.


Send him back an email telling him to go **** him self. Anyway heres an update on the withdrawal I made today it took about 2 hours hassel free.

2 hours?
Well right in their home page I got this quote.

Oklahoma Sports Betting guarantees to VIP Players NETeller, Prepaid ATM, Western Union, Firepay Personal Account and FedEx Tracking Number in 60 minutes or fewer. Monday to Friday or we cover the fees, guaranteed!


Today is Mon - Fri so I guess you got your fees for free, right? And hassle free to huh?



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Then I read further about the payouts and see this:

We also offer FREE Cashier's Checks of $500 or more delivered by FedEx to your door once a month

CLICK HERE TO BECOME A VIP MEMBER tODAY!!


*EXPRESS 60 Min Payout RULES:
VIP Description: Must have at least one deposit of $1500 or more, play a minimum of 8 times a week with each wager of at least $25.

VIP:

• All bonus obligations or any other restrictions must be met in order to be eligible for any pay-out. Click here to read the bonus terms and conditions.

• Must be requested from Monday to Friday, 8am to 5pm eST

• Methods available for 60 min withdrawal: NETeller, Prepaid ATM, Western Union, Firepay Personal Account and FedEx Tracking Number

• Amount requested must be between $50 - $5,000


NON VIP:

• All bonus obligations or any other restrictions must be met in order to be eligible for any pay-out. Click here to read the bonus terms and conditions.

• Guaranty 60 min approval/denial

• Receive funds within 1 business day of approval.

• Must be requested Monday to Friday, 8am to 5pm eST. Please take the time to read carefully the terms and conditions for payouts with Oklahoma Sports Betting.


So What kind of player are you? If your not a VIP member then how the hell did you get your money in 2 hours? This seems way to shady for me to believe in this book!

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why is it nobody ever believes a new book can be good ? sure you have your scams and thiefs but once and awhile you can find gems out there not every book is perfect and all books have to earn there reputation but sooner or later everyone tries a new book I always will give a book a shot to earn my buisness I am not gonna send them much money but atleast I give them a shot first and then if there a dud I wont send them anymore money I gave these guys a shot and for me they have been a good out

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mvbski wrote "like I said before I have enjoyed playing there,they are a nice change in this otherwise seedy buisness".

Can you be more specific. What exactly is "a nice change"...

This book has all the earmarks of a Ponzi scheme. Your post should reassure nobody.

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First time I asked for a payout at this book I received it in 12 minutes.

Second time I received it before I'd finished typing in the request.

Third time I had a dream at 2:12 am that I was requesting a payout from this book.
A few minutes later I was awakened by a FedEx messenger ringing my doorbell with my payout.



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a nice change is someone that pays without a lot of BS like others books do when you want one how many times have you been asked why are you withdrawling money etc,a CS department that doesnt treat you like a idiot when you call,someone who doest move a line just because PIN did it's nice to play with a book that actually appreciates your buisness not treat you like your doing them a favor,just remember everybook out was a startup once

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Farfel

(Third time I had a dream at 2:12 am that I was requesting a payout from this book. A few minutes later I was awakened by a FedEx messenger ringing my doorbell with my payout. )




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Hey awol256, if you're still following this, I have a question. There have now been 5 brand new identities appearing in this thread. Perhaps that's legit but I'm wondering if you are able to tell if some or all of them are coming from the same IP address - like in the same way you discovered OkieSt was also BigEastfan?

Just curious.



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WOW this is unreal,

It seems no matter how we act there will always be skeptics. If paying players within the allotted time frame is shady way of doing business then i am at a loss for words. How can you possibly read anything malicious in paying one player early?!?!?!?!?! Now we are a bad book for having efficient accounting department who processes on time and early in some cases?
Payout REQUESTS are accepted 24hrs a day, meaning you can fill out the request form and accounting will receive it 24hrs a day, if you want to split hairs simply to try and throw mud around go ahead and waist your own time, we are too busy taking care of valued players to entertain your tom-foolery.
If you are all that happy with the books you are at then why are you all so interested in us? We must have something to offer that you like. Or are you now schilling for them by trying to black list us.
I will put it to you this way, if you have never played here then your opinions are exactly that, opinions based on no facts. Players who win get paid hassle free, that is the bottom line, players who have posted here prove that and those are the facts, with exception of Okie.... And yes his acct. is closed so why he is trying to claim bonus $ have no idea, I think we all know that he is few fries short of a happy meal so Mildred please tell him to go away.

Ponzi scheme? like i said before, unless you are an active player then it is simply speculation, rumor *****ring and pure fantasy on your part. I guess when you can’t argue the facts then you have to attack the reputation. looks like some here are fans of AM talk radio because this is the oldest political trick in the book.
Sorry to be so short but I have customers to keep happy instead of responding to all this.
Our position is clear you know where we stand, the choice is now up to the public.
Mike. M.



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please do check all our ip adresses, no problem here with that. Mine is from Costa Rica.

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yeah I sign'd up 11/15/03 waiting to shill for these guys

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Curious about one thing, osb.

Two people start posting, and it appears to many that they are shilling for your book.

Within 24 hours, you show up in the thread.

I can't believe it's a coincidence.

This is not the most widely read gambling forum on the internet.

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farfel maybe they look at forums to ?

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Farfel please reread the whole post carefully you obviously missed the part where I told everyone that OKIE was SCHILLING for us and that we did not condone that activity and as a result we closed his account. I even went so far as to thank Awol256 personally for exposing it, but i guess he is a schill for us also in your eyes. You want to know who is schilling or not, how about asking everyone who has posted to respond to you privately then you will know for sure, right?!?!?!
If you are so convinced that we have schills all over the place then why would you ask me to tell you, no matter what I say you will rebut anyway so go ask all the posters directly, then you will have your proof.
Why did i show up 24hrs later, BECAUSE I WORK FOR THE BOOK AND PART OF MY JOB IS TO RESPOND TO SERIOUS MATTERS ON FORUMS, this is the first thread on Covers about us, hence this is the first time I post.

Can’t debate the facts with me anymore so no point in me responding anymore to smear campaigns and accusations without merit.
As far as Oklahomasportsbetting is concerned this matter is closed. Anyone who wishes to discuss further is more than welcome to call me toll free 1-877-247-bets
Mike. M.


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FYI I work here at Oklahoma sports betting as a customer service rep, Mike asked me to post this response to you all.
chip


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This is a very strange thread. I have never heard of this book. I don't know most of the posters in this thread because they joined 2 days ago. OCB I wil ask this of you and decide for myself.

1. Do you have a Parent BOOK? ( if so who)
2. Where in CR are you?
3. Is there a limit on your deposit bonus?(Seriously If a player sent you 100K) what would there bonus be?
4. How many clients do you have right now?(that have posted up?)
5. What is your prefered method of deposit and payment?
6. Has you book registered with any Sportsbook watchdog group...anywhere?
7. Can you bet on the phone or just the web?

If you respond great. If not just the same.


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ANS:
1. No we are an independent book. We are who we say we are.
2. San Jose, Costa Rica
3. No limit on 1st time depost bonus. Seriously if you want to open your account with 100k you will get 30k in bonus. Why not, the risk factor is the same for the book if the deposit is for 1k or 100k you still get 30% more on your deposit. 7x rollover applies to everyone, and 10 business day wait for your first payout request from the time of your first deposit. The only limit is that it is offered for a limited time only. This is not our standard life time signup promo. simply something to draw attension during basketball season.
4. First regesterd post up on Jan 13th 2004.... 157 postups and counting as of today.
5. Neteller , PrePaidATM, Firepay,WesternUnion, all other methods. In that order.
6. We are regesterd with the Gambling Commision, you will see their logo at the bottom left of our home page.
7. Wager over tel or net. $2500 max online $5000 max by telephone for all new accounts. Once you have a history with us we will be happy to discuss raising limits.
hope this helps.

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I am as skeptical as anyone but this looks like a start up book that is trying to make it. I don't think that this bonus is the best idea but it's not my shop. I think this book needs to be very careful about who they let in because their are plenty of bonus whore who could roll over a huge deposit during baseball with little or no chance of loss.

I think we need to hear from actuall players from this book. If their are any more experienced posters with an account here I would love to hear from you. I hope I am right about this place and wish them luck in a VERY difficult business.

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It's been a hell of an interesting thread though, eh.

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wannabet


What is for you an experienced poster tell me please.

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wannabet

"Is there a limit on your deposit bonus?(Seriously If a player sent you 100K) what would there bonus be?""

Seriously who is going to send 100k to any sportsbook would you?



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You would be my #1 candidate.

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Uncle-Mudcat

You would be my #1 candidate now why would you say something like that ??

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Mildred....

A more experienced poster may not have been the best choice of words. What I meant by experienced poster was someone who has been at this site for more than a week. I think a lot of people or one person with a lot of screen names have joined this discussion to talk about nothing other than this book. You will have to forgive me if it all seems a bit strange. You will have to take me at my word that I was not be malitious at all.

As far as who would send a book 100K. If you were going to get 30K in signup bonuses you might be suprised as to who would do it. There are plenty of sportsbooks that carry players with 6 figure balances.
Would I send them 100K...NO but that does not mean that a bonus whore or a Vegas Syndicate group would not do it for the bonus.

As far as sending 100K to ANY sportsbook. If I had this ammount to send to only one book. I would have no problem sending 100K to....Pinnacle, CRIS, Grande, JAZZ, Cascade, Canbet, Catalina, Olympic, and WSEX. Unfortunatlty none of these books offer a 30% unlimited signup bonus. I wonder why that is?

Have a good day all.

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this thread was great.

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Mildred,

I was indicating that you would be my #1 candidate to do something financially foolish. That's because of how easily you got sucked in by the scammer at the start of this thread.



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wannabet,if you were refering to me if you look I joined 11/15/03 sure I never posted till now but I have read these boards for along time look at some of the other forums I post under the same name and one reason new books offer big bonus's to startout is to get customers and get there name out there if they had a normal 10-15% signup bonus who would notice them I would imagine rather than spend big money on advertising that is a waste of money they chose to offer this to get there name noticed I could care less if you dont signup here I am just letting people know how this book is and my experices with them if it was a crap book I would be the first to say stay away

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all i want to Know and because it's in Costa Rica (shudder) are bettors funds insured by a bank and how much is isnsured ?

if they are not certified by local gov't (which i doubt ) or the OSGA

i recommend you dig deeper into this newbie could be one who folded and opened under a new name !

once they take a hit off they go with your money and reopen under a new name !


caveat emptor !

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mvbski - "... look at some of the other forums I post under the same name...".

True - you post under this name at some forums, and under several other names as well.

You are also currently shilling for this book at one other forum I visited - although at that forum you're claiming the bonus is 20%.
Did you - or they - lower it because the 30% was too obvious an indicator of a potentially unstable sportsbook enterprise?

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Shilly Shillstein (mvbski) writes "...why is it nobody ever believes a new book can be good ? sure you have your scams and thiefs but once and awhile you can find gems out there ...".

Shilly - earlier in the thread you state you've been with them for 3 months, and that you've sent them not much money.
Then you go on to state there's no problem getting a payout.

So you deposit small, get a small payout, and within 3 months you realize you've found a gem.

Did you lose your previous job when the Psychic Friends Hotline folded?

AcesGold was in business for several years, and fooled many sharp people. Ponzi schemes can have a long life.

But in 3 months, you're able to determine that a startup book - which no one has heard of, with personnel and ownership no one is familiar with, and one for which there is no info available at any of the "watchdog" sites - is a gem.

And you're actively spreading the word all over the internet, due to pure selflessness.

Curious about something. You obviously have been with many books, to be able to make the statements you do. To be able to make the comparison with the 100's of other books out there.

How many offshore books have you ever had accounts with?
How many currently?
(And this is a gem compared to the books wannabet lists above, for example...?).


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OSB's website states "Our bonus program is intended for recreational bettors only. Professional players or players considered to be abusing the bonus system by any means may have bonuses revoked at the discretion of OSB management.*******"

Question for OSB - What is a "professional player"?

To me, this means that management can refuse to payout any and all bonuses at will.
Anyone can be called a professional player.

This rule also negates wannabet's statement above - "Would I send them 100K...NO but that does not mean that a bonus whore or a Vegas Syndicate group would not do it for the bonus."

Farfel's line - Within the next 3 months, oklahomasportsbetting has a major dispute with a player - and the dispute appears on the message boards of the major "watchdog" websites - over nonpayment of bonuses.

Yes -800
No +600




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Dstocks Line

Is Farfel an asshole

yes -800
No +600

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Farfel name one other name I post under and prove its me why dont you use your real name LOL, its hard to be with a book more than a couple months since they only started doing postup in January, I would never send a new book much money till they prove themselves,when did I change the bonus amount if there site says 30% so if im schilling shouldnt I have the number correct and if I did then im a uninformed schill,everybook has the same rule for professional players, yes I have played with many books some I like and some I never reup'd with also I schill for Royal because I said they might be worth alook again and usofftrack oops they dont give any bonus's take your agenda with me or OSB somewhere else

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Farfel did you win any money money with the 100.00 you stole last week in our fantasy league ?

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one other thing Farfel or should I say ? I have NEVER recieved a single referal bonus from OSB or anything from them for telling what I know about them I know you wont believe me and I know you wouldnt belive them

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I think my point about this book has been twisted a bit. I am all for the starting and operating of new sportsbooks. If this book turns out to be a solid upstanding member of the gaming community then I will welcome them with open arms. All I am sayin is that with it being a "startup"book people should be cautious. Add to that the fact that they are offering an UNLIMITED signup bonus the red flags just go up. This is not the norm. Books do not offer these types of bonuses because of the reasons I have previously statted. 90% of sportsbooks are "closed to professionals".
If this book thinks that they willl be able to spot a professional from wagers placed on the internet, then I think the owners of this book need to go have lunch with the previous owners of BLUEMARLIN, SIA, WagerWorld, and ACESGOLD to see just how HARD that is. If you guys think you can do it then GOD bless. I am not trying to bash this book. All I am doing is letting people know the risks involved with this book long term. I honestly do wish them the best.

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Wanna, good post all I tried to do is tell people of my experiences with this book and I get called a schill every new book will have detractors and I am as skeptical as anyone I have gotten burned before and I am sure I will in the future trying new books I am owed by betpanam but that is the risk whenever you signup with a new book,and Farfel please expose me for shilling wich I am not and I will be glad to post here your agenda with me and the name you usually post with it wont be hard to see the link

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wHO HAVE RECIEVED PAYOUTS FROM SOB WITHOUT HASSLE????

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mvbski - "Farfel did you win any money money with the 100.00 you stole last week in our fantasy league ? "

As you know, I'm not in "our fantasy league" and thus have no idea what you refer to - please post a link to the controversy to verify.


mvbski - "Farfel name one other name I post under and prove its me ..."

I was specifically referring to a multi-paragraph post that was posted under "mvbski" on one forum, and the identical, word-for-word post was on another forum under a different name.
When I come across them again I'll post a link here.


mvbski - "when did I change the bonus amount if there site says 30% so if im schilling shouldnt I have the number correct and if I did then im a uninformed schill".

This was my mistake - in the other site's post of yours, you are correctly referring to their 20% reup bonus - here's the link -
http://www.racingpub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=352.
In it you refer to "...our friends at Oklahomasportbetting..." which implies a more personal relationship than you acknowledge in the posts above.


mvbski - "everybook has the same rule for professional players...".

Nonsense. Please post a link to a reputable book which has such a rule.
For example, any of the books which wannabet cites above.
By "reputable book", I'm referring to books on the recommended lists at any of the major "watchdog" sites.


There is also a post currently at Majorwager, called " Discussion regarding OklahomaSportsbetting". I couldn't find a way to link to it - it's in MajorWager's Mess Hall.
And I do note that it could be a case of mistaken identity, as it's a "he said/she said" situation.


wannabet - " I am all for the starting and operating of new sportsbooks. If this book turns out to be a solid upstanding member of the gaming community then I will welcome them with open arms. All I am sayin is that with it being a "startup"book people should be cautious. Add to that the fact that they are offering an UNLIMITED signup bonus the red flags just go up. This is not the norm. Books do not offer these types of bonuses because of the reasons I have previously statted. "

I agree with all of this. I have no bone to pick with osb. The more solid books, the better. And as mvbski mentions above, all books were a startup at one time.
But for the reasons wannabet mentions, and others, I also saw red flags going up.
Note that there's not only an unlimited 30% signup bonus, but unlimited 20% reup bonus, 2 team parleys at true odds if bet at a specific time period, etc.
I agree with mvbski that new books will have promos like these to gain customers.

But it's also true that most of the major sportsbook failures have involved books which had ongoing promos like the above.


Finally - I note above a rule on osb's website - "Professional players or players considered to be abusing the bonus system by any means may have bonuses revoked at the discretion of OSB management.*******"

I've read many discussions on the forums of players being stiffed by books for bonuses.
Having a vague rule as the above - not the part about bonus abuse, the part about "Professional players..." is just looking for a disagreement to erupt.
Wannabet's post above refers to some of the problems with this. There are many others.
Just as brick and mortar casinos bar bj players who are actually suckers, but were either winning big, or were accidentally raising and lower their bets coinciding with the count, so to have online casinos barred sportsbettors who were suckers but - liked some plays which had been steam plays earlier; like to play halftimes; were winning big; etc.

ANYONE can be called a "professional player".
If a REPUTABLE book feels that a player is a "professional" (meaning a winning player), or for any other reason doesn't want their business, they can bar them, BUT a reputable book will also pay them any bonuses due.
Not doing so is just asking for controversy.







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wHO HAVE RECIEVED PAYOUTS FROM OSB WITHOUT HASSLE????

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Farfel with just Posts: 11 cut the BS, play with them and then talked with a real argument.....

you are typing nonse thrash just because you have a no brain with fingers

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yes I am a mod there and they are gonna sponsor a contest there but if you would have looked a little deeper there you will see that this book was brought up there before asking the same question does anyone know about them and as a bettor there I said I played with them and yes I asked them about sponsoring a contest and they said yes, and this was just the link I was looking for with you I am at work now but when I get home I will expose your agenda with me and any person will be able to see who the ghost is here

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This is getting kinda good.
This is one of the strangest threads I have ever read. I don't really understand who is who and what the **** is really going on. What makes this even more strange to me is that I have posted in this thread 5 times. I can't follow who is on whos side or who is the same guy, or any of this. I feel like I need a program to keep track of who is who.

I will say however if you guys are just doing this to get recognized (# of views of this thread. 2254 Thats a lot for those that don't know) it a GREAT IDEA!!!! It worked. So now that you got some free advertising. The next step may be to pull down the UNLIMITED signup bonus. I understand that you will do your own thing, and that is fine. I just think this bonus thing will cause more harm then good.

I was facinated by this thread. A lot of Strang humans in this world.
Again this is all just my opinion.

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wannabet

This is one of the strangest threads I have ever read. I don't really understand who is who and what the **** is really going on. What makes this even more strange to me is that I have posted in this thread 5 times. I can't follow who is on whos side or who is the same guy, or any of this. I feel like I need a program to keep track of who is who.

Simple and easy question who are these guys thats all (I just need some info cause I am interested in playing here they have nice promos i recive this by them today **email**.)

Did anybody else put money here and what i the outcome .

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dont worry wanna, will take me awhile to put all the links together also have to watch the game tonite but when I am done you will see why farfel has a agenda with me then we will see who is the real ghost/beard here

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all I ever did was say I played there as I have on other forums and I got blasted is that schilling ? or should I just keep quiet when I see a thread like this about a book I have played at good or bad, look at the gamblers ave thread here I said both pro and con about them is that schilling ?

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By the way Farfel Your life must suck when nothing's going your way.



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mvbski

Thanks buddy cause i am having a good time with them a lot of good time

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this thing with farfel/heartman started last week we are in the same nascar contest at the RX and he had a problem with the rules of the contest wich he didnt want to follow so he went crying to the forum well as you can see nobody in this contest agreed with him but the General said screw it and paid him the money, and his first post that was edited was telling me to kiss his ass,and the post he was refering to at racingpub wich is a new forum on nascar was just to let our posters know about 20% reloads there now isnt that a coincidence we are in the same contest and he mentioned a post I made at a new forum for nascar, farfel/heartman is also a poster at racinpub so maybe that is how he saw that post as you can see he even thanked me there but since I called him out at the RX he seems to want to emberass me now if you go to majorwager you will see that he posts all the time in there Nascar forum there so is all this just a coincidence that he saw a post of mine at a little known Nascar forum and we had a beef last week I would say no but please make your own decisions and please go to any forum and look for any comments I have made on OSB and they are pretty much what I said here

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fore some reason the links did not show up I will try to post again

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well for some reason I cant get the links to post do they allow them here ? anyway go to the RX,majorwager,racingpub and just look up the posts for me mvbski and heartman and you will see for yourself

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So (Farfel) you are a full pledge cry baby you should kiss you own ass guy.

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Farfel

You are a full pledge cry baby you should kiss you own ass guy.

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I was specifically referring to a multi-paragraph post that was posted under "mvbski" on one forum, and the identical, word-for-word post was on another forum under a different name.
When I come across them again I'll post a link here.

show me the link

In it you refer to "...our friends at Oklahomasportbetting..." which implies a more personal relationship than you acknowledge in the posts above.

yes I said that and I said it because they sponsor a contest there you know you post there

There is also a post currently at Majorwager, called " Discussion regarding OklahomaSportsbetting". I couldn't find a way to link to it - it's in MajorWager's Mess Hall.

pretty much the same thing I sad here and you faild to say that Major made a false accusation about OSB and the later recanted it









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I did not see a recant in Russ' statement at all. The thread at MW clearly states that Russ was not on the side of OSB. I have known Russ for a while now, and if he feels that way it is good enough for me He states that according to two sources your book was associated with a untrustworthy group. I will wait and see like everybody else;however, as of right now I am very suspicious. Russ did not assend to the position he has by being an idiot. He knows what he is talking about and I will go with his side of the story.

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Fair enough Mike. I was told by 2 different people that you were. I will change the title of this thread.

FTR , the two people who have told me this still stand behind their statements.

Russ

the tread had a title that said something to the effect of stay away cant remember his exact words be he changed it

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Mildred also posted the identical query at Freaksforum, where HE was correctly identified as a shill and a spammer.
Freak (the site's owner) posted - "Talk about a blatant shill advertisement."


Here's a link - http://www.freaksforum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000333.

Mildred - is your favorite song "A Boy Named Sue"?



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If the link I gave above doesn't work, try this:
http://www.freaksforum.com/ubb/ultimatebb.php?ubb=get_topic;f=8;t=000333

If this doesn't work, go to freaksforum.com and select The Gamblers Edge forum.
The post is titled "Does any one heard of this sportsbook? ", and Mildred is calling himself Milred.

Mildred posted above - "mvbski

Thanks buddy cause i am having a good time with them a lot of good time ."

Shilly Shillstein 1 and Shilly Shillstein 2.

mvbski admits above, in response to my post, that he is a Nascar moderator at another forum, and osb is sponsoring a Nascar contest there.
This is something he didn't reveal in any of his earlier posts - that there is a fiscal relationship between he and osb.

This is the very definition of shilling.


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mvbski - (this is quoting me - Farfel - from an earlier post in this thread) "I was specifically referring to a multi-paragraph post that was posted under "mvbski" on one forum, and the identical, word-for-word post was on another forum under a different name.
When I come across them again I'll post a link here."

(Then mvbski posts ) show me the link.



OK - here's one of your aliases - you posted this as " NBA insider"at crazypicks.com, , and posted the identical word-for-word post on other sites as "mvbski". The link is -

http://www.crazypicks.com/forum/index.php?act=ST&f=7&t=4815&s=67c926657a0d3907eec5225202995935


Did you forget about this other identity, Shilly?


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Just came across a post headed "Dont use Oklahomasportsbetting".

The link is :

http://www.fantasybetszone.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5070

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Here's the link to an mvbski post. As you can see, this is the identical post to the one he posted as "NBA insider" at another forum.

http://www.racingpub.com/forum/showthread.php?t=116

It's the 7th post in this thread.

This is in response to mvbski posting above - "Farfel name one other name I post under and prove its me ..." .



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OK - here's one of your aliases - you posted this as " NBA insider"at crazypicks.com, , and posted the identical word-for-word post on other sites as "mvbski". The link is -

give me a break you moron why would i call myself nbainsider and tout nascar and crazyivan big as bonus whore there is it is alled cut and paste and by the way heartman thanked me for that pick and it is sure is funny you find crazys site and point out someone copied and pasted my pick there


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people this is a scam

i referred a friend and they wont give me my money

people wont email me back
wont return my phone calls

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they said i had to deposit 100 dollars to get my bonus

ive already gave them 500 but lost it!

have u alrede signed up for MVP?
i have an account there if you havent
REF ID:ss83732

a couple of bonus whores talking where do you find these sites ?

mvbski admits above, in response to my post, that he is a Nascar moderator at another forum, and osb is sponsoring a Nascar contest there.
This is something he didn't reveal in any of his earlier posts - that there is a fiscal relationship between he and osb.

what because they sponsor a contest there so everytime I say something I should say oh by the way they are sposoring a contest

you are a idiot your attack on me is not going to stop me from posting here people can see your little game heartman keep crying just like you did over at the rx and by the way I am taking my winnings this week from the contest and splitting them with the General you know the contest you stole a 100 from him

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Farfel

"i referred a friend and they wont give me my money"

Man OkieSt04 good one you came back . Wow you are something this is about you and your scam to others

"...he has already been banned as bettinguy36/Bigeastfan/iamawinner, etc, etc

There has been accusations of him ripping off other posters and posing as an agent for BetWWTS, taking peoples bets and gambling their money.

DO NOT TRUST "


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I just noticed the name RAGE he tried to past post a contest at racingpub this week and I caught him is this who farfel really is hmmmmmmmmmmm Rage also posts at the racing so many coincidences and they all go back to racingpub hmmmmmmmmmmm did I have the wrong ghost here rage is also from R.I. and I see on that garbage site you like the NE patriots hmmmmmm getting closer gonna have to do some digging here think I have found the real ghost now LOL

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and for you that need a scorecard the name Rage seems to be popping up at both racingpub and fantasybets zone and guess what sportsfans there is a Rage at crazyalans site also as the plot thickens Rage are you mad at me for catching you past posting at racingpub did you try to scam OSB to ?are you one of crazyalans whore buddies and get caught ?

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and for you that havent looked at racingpub Sirbet is a sponsor god forbid I dont want to be accuse of schilling for them to LOL

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Rage did you and crazyalan try to pull a scam at OSB and get caught let me guess was it a referal scam I know crazyalan loves referals ?

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its amazing everything goes back to racingpub where our friend rage/farfel or whoever you are got caught by me past posting a Nascar contest I think I have found who farfel/rage really is I am sorry for bashing heartman tonite I am going to do some more digging and follow this trail

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scoring card update there is also a Rage here how may alias's you have farfel/rage ?

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nice post Farfel/Rage this was at crazyalans LOL

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Just came across a post headed "Dont use Oklahomasportsbetting".

The link is :

http://www.fantasybetszone.com/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=5070

amazing how the name Rage pops up here just another coincedince ?

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http://www.racingpub.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2951#post2951

here is the link for when I caught Rage/farfel pastposting he claimed he thought it was for the race but he has been in evryone of these qualifying contests and why would it change for this week and the most amazing was that he went 10-10 do a little search on Rage on these sites he listed and you will see he is a contest whore

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Interesting, I'm a member of racingpub too at first I thought Rage just did it as a joke but I guess not anyway this thread is after going to hell in a hand basket as for the way it started I'm using OSB and I like them thats all can say about that.

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well I am sorry it has to but if someone questions my integrety I will fight to the end to prove that it is wrong

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What’s the deal with you guy caught once again and got kick out lol you poor little thing. Don’t your read about what a silly little scammer you are.




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Are you confused about what buddy.

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Just about everything in here is B.S. If you are with a good book like I am why the hell would you even look at anyone else? If you are winning who cares about bonuses because you aren't putting much in anyway unless you are losing regularly. The only reason to consider another book is if you don't like yours. If it works and you get paid on time like I do, don't mess with it; whether it's okiest or Pinnacle.

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why would we take some info from another forum and post it here, who the hell si going to read all this
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by The General:
I have gotten rave email reviews about this book. Each email that I receive, I feel less comfortable with the book. It seems like a new shilling method. Here are a couple nice messages from people I don't think I know.

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>What do you think of OklahomaSportsbetting.com? i think they are #1. They pay. And they pay fast with no problem. They give great bonus. And they are honest and friends. They are the best. I got paid 2 times; each $2500. They pay less than 60 mins. And if over 60 mins, they cover western union fee. They are great. I am a VIP and they treat me like a King. What do you think? Any comments? Thankyou. OklahomaSportsbetting.com is #1.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> i received a payout from oklahomasportsbetting, 4500,no problems
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Could be real players with a real interest in sharing their views. Could be real strange shills with a new tactic.

Either way, I'll stick with known, reputable books.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

by you posting this they got a free schill from you general. posters aren't interested in fast payouts or good customer service....they only want a fat bonus.
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seems more like br material and not a general concensus.
 
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i must admit i opened an account at osb. the website loads way to slow but everything else ok i guess. im up a little right now and after my rollover will ask for payout. will feel better after i get paid.
 

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i dont personally think you will have a problem on the fact of getting paid with them, they seem to be pushing there 60 minute payouts to attract customers and they are building there reputation on it...
 

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