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Gambler Jan Flato supplied the money that went into the Double Top Dollar slot machine at the Seminole Hard Rock Hotel & Casino. But the woman who was nuzzling up to him pushed the button.


So when the bells rang, the lights flashed and the payline showed a $100,000 jackpot, Flato felt like a big winner.
He wasn’t.


When casino managers checked the video, it showed the woman, 35-year-old Marina Medvedeva Navarro, had actually started the slot wheels rolling, making her the rightful winner. Flato not only lost the cash, he has barely heard from his friend since she walked out that Jan. 31 night alone with a $50,000 check and another 50 grand in cash — after asking armed security to keep an eye on Flato as she left.
She sent him a text message a few weeks later asking, “Still hate me?”He responded: “How could you do that to me?” Her reply: “I miss you.”
READ MORE: Who paid to play? There’s a new spin in the Hard Rock slot-machine mystery



Flato, an experienced gambler who moved to Aventura about a year ago from Las Vegas to take care of his 88-year-old mother, is still angry and has an important consumer message for other slot players: Don’t let somebody else push your button or pull your handle.
“I want everybody to know what happened so it won’t happen to them,” said Flato, who added he first met Navarro at the high-roller room at Gulfstream Park in 2015. “I’ve played slots all over the country and never had a problem like that. Even the people handing out the money said, ‘This isn’t right.’”
Flato says he was feeding cash into the Double Top Dollar machine, which requires $50 a spin for a shot at the $100,000 jackpot. He says he had met up with Navarro, with whom he frequently played slots, in the center bar, and the pair headed to the Hard Rock high-roller room, where he says he put money into the slot machine.


“Push the button for good luck,” Flato says he told Navarro just before the jackpot hit.
Navarro told the Miami Herald a different version of the events. She said she herself placed $400 in the machine, and offered to give Flato a portion of the win, but he didn’t take it. She declined further comment.


Seminole spokesman Gary Bitner said the tribe keeps gambler information confidential and there would be no further comment, other than to state that the casino was simply following the rules created long before there was gambling in Florida — the pusher of the button is the winner of the loot.
Frank Legato, editor of Global Gaming Business magazine, who has testified as a legal expert in slots cases, says the rule is universal.
“Pressing the spin button is really the act of making the wager,” he said.
Lawyers appear to agree, Flato said.
“No one would take the case,” Flato said. “That jackpot money is long gone.”
 
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Sorry to say She gets the money ( yes I know it has already been determined )

He being an "experienced" gambler and has Gambled "All over" should know this rule

I witnessed first hand Twice ( once in 1999 and then in 2003 in AC ) my Brother in-law pull a slot machine for his very good friend who is a known
Slot High roller in AC.

The guy is such a huge Slot player that he has his own Slot attendant that stands by with the Tax forms on a clip board, as when he hits he can just sign them.
Never seen him play for less than $300 a pull and plays up to $2,000 ( or it might be $3K ) * $1,000 Machine

anyway, he always tells his friends when around him to take a Pull for Luck or whatever , he even asked myself and my wife once.
My Brother in-law hit Twice for him, $25,000 & $100,000
They always go to the Video and whoever pulls the arm has to fill out the tax info and pay the Taxes. the guy paid the taxes and gave my brother in-law some money
for the hit.

I never knew this rule until the first time back in 99.

If I know it since then and don't play slots, this guy should have known. or did, but didn't expect what happened next.
 

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"She said she herself placed $400 in the machine, and offered to give Flato a portion of the win, but he didn’t take it. "

Why would she offer him a cut, if she had put up her own money and pushed the button? :think2:
 

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So if a complete stranger walks by and pushes the button on my slot machine while I'm taking a sip of beer, He gets my winnings? Sounds fair.
 

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I'd bide my time for years 10 or more from now when I already have moved away long ago... and put a hit on her or have her beaten so badly her life would be altered forever

People like that need to pay the price for actions like this

Where I grew up if you did something like this you would have to watch your back for the rest of your life as someone would come for payback at some point for your actions
 

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I'd bide my time for years 10 or more from now when I already have moved away long ago... and put a hit on her or have her beaten so badly her life would be altered forever

People like that need to pay the price for actions like this

Where I grew up if you did something like this you would have to watch your back for the rest of your life as someone would come for payback at some point for your actions

There isnt a healthy fear of retaliation or there is an indifference towards it, imo, these days. Its why people will act tough behind a screen or their car or over the phone. That bitch had better grow eyes in the back of her head.
 

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So when people give you money and numbers to get them lotto tickets and it hits, are you entitled collect?
 

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Pretty simple to me, whoever put the money in the machine is the winner, if I put a $20 bill in and say to my friend u hit the Button my luck sucks, it wins.. well, that's my mine, I funded the machine
 
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If he had pushed the button, he most likely would have pushed it a tiny split second earlier or later and therefore not won the jackpot.
 

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Funny all the different things that makes the true bitch come out in some females.

If she was a decent human being in general she would have automatically understood that since she used his funds, he deserved half of the winnings, and would have offered him that minimum...
 

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If he had pushed the button, he most likely would have pushed it a tiny split second earlier or later and therefore not won the jackpot.

Wins on a slot machine are not determined by moments in time..
They are Technically predetermined.. once the machine has finished the spin.. it already knows if the next spin is a win or not.. it's set..
 
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So if a complete stranger walks by and pushes the button on my slot machine while I'm taking a sip of beer, He gets my winnings? Sounds fair.

I think if they went to the video and saw something like that, the payout would go to you.
Here, she was hanging out with him. and I'm sure they could go back and see that they met, walked over to the machine together and also go back to see
that they have been there together multiple times.
 
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So when people give you money and numbers to get them lotto tickets and it hits, are you entitled collect?

I would think that's different. But remember, if that person Signs the back of the Tickets, then Yes you are Screwed !
 
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Funny all the different things that makes the true bitch come out in some females.

If she was a decent human being in general she would have automatically understood that since she used his funds, he deserved half of the winnings, and would have offered him that minimum...

Yes in a Perfect World this is what Should have happened

He's an older guy, she looks normal, but I have a feeling that she's just a BS artist and just hangs around casinos to find someone with money
 

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