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Did you know that the gas stations across the Mexican boarder just 2/10ths of a mile from the boarder gas stations in the U.S are an average of 70 cents a gallon cheaper? Food for thought.



Qatari Energy Minister Abdullah bin Hamad al- Attiyah on Monday emphatically denied claims by some oil importing countries that supply shortages were making oil prices soar.

"There is no shortage," al-Attiyah told Deutsche Presse-Agentur dpa during the 19th World Petroleum Congress in the Spanish capital Madrid.

"There are a lot of cargoes full of crude oil" with no buyers, he said.

The minister said the causes of the high oil prices were not clear, adding that market speculation probably played a role.

The oil market was marked by "strange fluctuations," al-Attiyah said, refusing to speculate on how high oil prices might rise.
 

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The U.S. has a shit ton of Oil, something like 118 billion barrels of untapped gas. Bush has tried to get into it, but Congress (democrats) won't let anyone touch it. I laugh when democrats talk about how Bush isn't trying to do anything about the gas crisis. What a joke.
 

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The main barrier between the consumer and lower energy prices is the environmental jihadists.
 

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The U.S. has a shit ton of Oil, something like 118 billion barrels of untapped gas. Bush has tried to get into it, but Congress (democrats) won't let anyone touch it. I laugh when democrats talk about how Bush isn't trying to do anything about the gas crisis. What a joke.

so then why aren't the democrats letting Bush tap into our abundant oil resources? So that they can tap into it themselves when they take over the white house and take all the glory?
 

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Its speculative bullshit, the price at the pump should be in the 2.00 range and has been verified multiple times.
 

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I just got back from Hawaii on Sat and gas is cheaper on the islands than here in SoCal.

Keep in mind that CA also has drilling and refineries :think2:
 

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laugh at this Fuckstik

speculation would push prices to fundamental level, lawmakers told



By Rex Nutting & Michael Kitchen, MarketWatch
Last update: 4:24 p.m. EDT June 23, 2008
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WASHINGTON (MarketWatch) -- The price of retail gasoline could fall by half, to around $2 a gallon, within 30 days of passage of a law to limit speculation in energy-futures markets, four energy analysts told Congress on Monday.


Testifying to the House Energy and Commerce Committee, Michael Masters of Masters Capital Management said that the price of oil would quickly drop closer to its marginal cost of around $65 to $75 a barrel, about half the current $135.
Fadel Gheit of Oppenheimer & Co., Edward Krapels of Energy Security Analysis and Roger Diwan of PFC Energy Consultants agreed with Masters' assessment at a hearing on proposed legislation to limit speculation in futures markets.
Krapels said that it wouldn't even take 30 days to drive prices lower, as fund managers quickly liquidated their positions in futures markets.
"Record oil prices are inflated by speculation and not justified by market fundamentals," according to Gheit. "Based on supply and demand fundamentals, crude-oil prices should not be above $60 per barrel."
Futures trading in London has not been a major factor in rising oil prices, testified Sir Bob Reid, chairman of the Chairman of London-based ICE Futures Europe. Rising prices are largely a function of fundamental supply and demand, not manipulation or speculation, he said.
"Energy speculation has become a growth industry and it is time for the government to intervene," said Rep. John Dingell, D-Mich., chairman of the full committee. "We need to consider a full range of options to counter this rapacious speculation." It was Dingell's strongest statement yet on the role of speculators.
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=9 width=135 align=left border=0><TBODY><TR><TD align=left>There has been much discussion recently about how big a role speculators have been playing in the sharp rise in energy prices, though no consensus has emerged on this point.
</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>Dingell introduced a bill on June 11 that would ask the Energy Department to gather the facts on energy prices, including the role played by speculators. See full story.
There are two kinds of speculators in the futures markets, Masters said. Traditional speculators are those who need to hedge because they actually take physical possession of the commodities. Index speculators, on the other hand, are merely allocating a portion of their portfolio to commodity futures.
Index speculation damages price-discovery mechanisms provided by futures markets, Masters added
The committee will likely consider legislation that would rein in index speculation by imposing higher-margin requirements; setting position limits for speculators; requiring more disclosure of positions; and preventing pension funds and investment banks from owning commodities.
Both major presidential candidates have supported closing loopholes that encourage speculation in the energy markets. Read more on Election Blog.
However, other witnesses said that pure speculators have had little impact on energy prices, which have doubled in the past year to about $135 per barrel. Both Treasury Secretary Henry Paulson and Energy Secretary Samuel Bodman have dismissed the impact of speculators on prices paid by consumers.
Speculators now account for about 70% of all benchmark crude trading on the New York Mercantile Exchange, up from 37% in 2000, said Rep. Bart Stupak, D-Mich., chairman of the investigations subcommittee. Stupak introduced a bill on Friday that would limit index speculation.
There has been much discussion recently about how big a role speculators have been playing in the sharp rise in energy prices, though no consensus has emerged on this point.
Congress, however, has grown increasingly concerned over speculative investors' role in the energy market in comparison with those buying futures contracts to hedge against risk from price changes. Lawmakers are expected to consider legislation to set strict limits -- or in some cases, an outright ban -- on speculative trading in energy futures in some markets.
Dingell is looking into any legal loopholes that may have contributed to speculation in energy markets. In 1991, according to documents provided by the Commodity Futures Trading Commission to the committee's investigators, the agency authorized the first exemption from position limits for swap dealers with no physical commodity exposure. This began what Dingell said was "a process that has enabled investment banks to accumulate enormous positions in commodity markets."
Is Congress barking up the wrong tree?
Neal Ryan, manager at Ryan Oil & Gas Partners, said that if Congress develops regulations to cut back speculative trading, speculation will just find a new home.
"Speculation is the root of capitalism," he said. "If the speculation is forced out of the U.S. exchanges, it'll simply show up on other exchanges that are OTC like the ICE, or new exchanges will pop up to allow for the spec trades to continue functioning."
Ryan said he does see a reason for Congress to look at eliminating aspects such as allowing West Texas intermediate crude oil futures to trade on foreign markets and the "Enron loophole," but "these exchanges are currently functioning as they are supposed to in a free marketplace."
The creation of a comprehensive U.S. energy policy that tackles issues of increasing domestic supply and reining in consumer demand via conservation should be Congress' focus, Ryan said. "Instead we're on bended knee begging the Saudis to put more oil on the market and talking about shutting down spec trades."
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so then why aren't the democrats letting Bush tap into our abundant oil resources? So that they can tap into it themselves when they take over the white house and take all the glory?


Because tapping into abundant oil resources will still have us dependant on oil and therefore we won't push on to finding an alternative energy source? Because apparently the environment is more important? Your guess is as good as mine.
 

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brock it was clear before you quoted that article that you formed an opinion on the subject by reading articles in the MSM aand watching TV:ohno:

the same MSM that has been dead wrong every step of the way

when oil was at $3o they were saying it was the Iraq War premium:missingte

when oil was at $50 it was the hurricane premium:missingte

at $70 it was the dollar weakness premium:missingte

at $120 it was the speculator premium:missingte


these media guys are either ignorant beyond belief or they are in on the scam to fool the people

bottom line, the world produces 85 mil barrels of oil per-day, pumping at max capacity..and the demand is currently 87 mil barrels a day.....there is a small "speculative" premium, maybe $10-$15, but it is not greed it is people looking for refuge from the ravages of inflation
 

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so then why aren't the democrats letting Bush tap into our abundant oil resources? So that they can tap into it themselves when they take over the white house and take all the glory?

Yep. The Dems will never associate with bush while the Reps are distancing themselves away from him so they can get reelected. Meanwhile the US gets screwed.
 

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oil prices are a total scam. Everybody is getting robbed by all the people involved with oil and theres nothing any of us can do about it. There is plenty of oil left in the world but people are using the were running out of it as a way to jack up prices on all of us. That supply and demand stuff is pure crap.
 

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I will bet you both sides of the governmental fence are getting rich off of us and laughing all the way to the bank. As they use the cards supplied by us and paid for by us.
 

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