Ohio State suspends 4 players for game against Va Tech

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Looks like All American DE Bosa is one of those players. 5D took the game down, but I see some 10s being dealt out there now as well. I have a hard time believing this game will go down below double digits as we get closer to kick, what do you guys think?
 

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Opened at 14...now 10.5 at Heritage.
 

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Bosa loss is huge. Are the bucks already having problems dealing with success? Wait till a qb controversy gets underway.
 

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Losing their top 3 receivers from last year is big also.

With both H-backs suspended, looks like Braxton Miller will play early.

HB's Jalin Marshall and Dontre Wilson were expected to split time. WR Corey Smith was also a starter.
 

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This was a common theme when Meyer was at UF....the mysterious, "He's suspended for the opener..." or "....he has an injury. He won't be playing this week..."

Come to find out, failed drug tests galore (Aaron Hernandez, the Pouncey twins, and several other starters)....but that was made public long after Meyer had split town because he couldn't ever coach football again due to his "health"....and he told the new coach, "The program is broken."
 

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This was a common theme when Meyer was at UF....the mysterious, "He's suspended for the opener..." or "....he has an injury. He won't be playing this week..."

Come to find out, failed drug tests galore (Aaron Hernandez, the Pouncey twins, and several other starters)....but that was made public long after Meyer had split town because he couldn't ever coach football again due to his "health"....and he told the new coach, "The program is broken."

Good points regarding Urban. Try marijuana and or academics for these suspensions.
 

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This was a common theme when Meyer was at UF....the mysterious, "He's suspended for the opener..." or "....he has an injury. He won't be playing this week..."

Come to find out, failed drug tests galore (Aaron Hernandez, the Pouncey twins, and several other starters)....but that was made public long after Meyer had split town because he couldn't ever coach football again due to his "health"....and he told the new coach, "The program is broken."
You left our assaults and gang violence. Guarantee you if it was Bama or Mich St in game 1, these guys would be suspended for game 2. I guess come NFL Draft time we'll find out just how many failed drug tests, or how bad the grades really were.
 

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You left our assaults and gang violence. Guarantee you if it was Bama or Mich St in game 1, these guys would be suspended for game 2. I guess come NFL Draft time we'll find out just how many failed drug tests, or how bad the grades really were.

You're right...sadly. He let the inmates run the asylum, that's for sure.

Aaron Hernandez should have been a 1st or 2nd round draft pick....fell to the 4th round due to his "character".

Carlos Dunlap fell to the 2nd round because he was a bonehead.
 

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Trust me...Weed or Academics for these four.
 

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You're right...sadly. He let the inmates run the asylum, that's for sure.

Aaron Hernandez should have been a 1st or 2nd round draft pick....fell to the 4th round due to his "character".

Carlos Dunlap fell to the 2nd round because he was a bonehead.
Coach, sad thing is Urban doesn't have to. As well as he recruits, he's got guys lined up waiting to play for him. I can't complain because my SunDevils under previous regimes have been just as bad. For all the glitz and glamour, I seem to recall Pete Carroll at USC running a pretty clean program. I discount the Bush thing because I really think those were trumped up charges based on the finding from the recent court decision in the Todd McNair case. But that seemed to be the only issue they had.
 

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My main concern about Va Tech is how the hell are they going to score? Beamer ball certainly ain't what it used to be.
 

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been listening to the big 10 coaches today on sirius

urban was asked about the negative news on cfb in offseason plus having coaching comments taken out of context and blown way out of proportion. he gave a great answer. said that in this day and age "journalists" look to make a name for themselves and actually can get promotions and raise increases based on shit like # of followers or retweet on twitter. he said you can get a lot more retweets and interest writing about a 4th string dback caught with weed than talking about ohio state having a dozen academic all big-10 players

also talked about the va tech loss. he said a major issue is when you have a team like navy (triple option) to start the season because you think about them and prepare for them for 9 months. after that game you probably aren't well prepared for "normal" team and when it's a well coached group like VT you can get beat unexpectedly. with that news i am going to run some queries on how teams that open with navy/army/gt/newmex/gaso do in 2nd week of the year after preparing for triple option for entire offseason.

really liked Darrell Hazell of Purdue. great interview...definitely a guy that is ez to root for
 

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been listening to the big 10 coaches today on sirius

urban was asked about the negative news on cfb in offseason plus having coaching comments taken out of context and blown way out of proportion. he gave a great answer. said that in this day and age "journalists" look to make a name for themselves and actually can get promotions and raise increases based on shit like # of followers or retweet on twitter. he said you can get a lot more retweets and interest writing about a 4th string dback caught with weed than talking about ohio state having a dozen academic all big-10 players

also talked about the va tech loss. he said a major issue is when you have a team like navy (triple option) to start the season because you think about them and prepare for them for 9 months. after that game you probably aren't well prepared for "normal" team and when it's a well coached group like VT you can get beat unexpectedly. with that news i am going to run some queries on how teams that open with navy/army/gt/newmex/gaso do in 2nd week of the year after preparing for triple option for entire offseason.

really liked Darrell Hazell of Purdue. great interview...definitely a guy that is ez to root for
I don't know how it's been in recent years, but teams used to not do very good the next week after playing the academies, especially Navy. Like I said, I don't know how it's been in recent years. It's probably time to start keeping tabs again. Although I always kind of keep it in the back of my mind. I would think it would be especially tough for young defenses and DC's to adjust back to spread/pro style offenses the next week..
 

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I don't know how it's been in recent years, but teams used to not do very good the next week after playing the academies, especially Navy. Like I said, I don't know how it's been in recent years. It's probably time to start keeping tabs again. Although I always kind of keep it in the back of my mind. I would think it would be especially tough for young defenses and DC's to adjust back to spread/pro style offenses the next week..

i'll run a query with army, navy, gt, air force and gaso. not sure to add new mex since they have been all over the board in offensive style and now going to no-huddle spread/option for 2015. will run all these teams separate as well. will post findings....
 

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been listening to the big 10 coaches today on sirius

urban was asked about the negative news on cfb in offseason plus having coaching comments taken out of context and blown way out of proportion. he gave a great answer. said that in this day and age "journalists" look to make a name for themselves and actually can get promotions and raise increases based on shit like # of followers or retweet on twitter. he said you can get a lot more retweets and interest writing about a 4th string dback caught with weed than talking about ohio state having a dozen academic all big-10 players

also talked about the va tech loss. he said a major issue is when you have a team like navy (triple option) to start the season because you think about them and prepare for them for 9 months. after that game you probably aren't well prepared for "normal" team and when it's a well coached group like VT you can get beat unexpectedly. with that news i am going to run some queries on how teams that open with navy/army/gt/newmex/gaso do in 2nd week of the year after preparing for triple option for entire offseason.

really liked Darrell Hazell of Purdue. great interview...definitely a guy that is ez to root for

tide I commented on this last year and I think you may have found something then if memory is correct.. we may have discussed GT out of conference teams also facing option and some teams who have had a problem facing GT in conference.. miami comes to mind but i could be wrong, have been by a pool next to the ocean drinking all week ! have enjoyed listening to finebaum and the big ten coaches this week, use to listen to cowterd so that has been a viod, but mike and mike are not bad in the am.. Finebaum and his callers are my favorite..guy does a good job letting people talk and he listens opposed to blowing his ego like cowterd. I listened to dantonio and I think he is one coach who still flies under the radar as a really good one.
 

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Looks like All American DE Bosa is one of those players. 5D took the game down, but I see some 10s being dealt out there now as well. I have a hard time believing this game will go down below double digits as we get closer to kick, what do you guys think?

kids are kids.. every year, all over the country.. just cant help but wonder what goes through their heads.. wilson may not recover from this one imo.. has had issues his whole time in columbus, even after his broken bone healed he never smelled the field vs bama or oregon and he very well could be the biggest play making threat on the team with his speed and vision.. should have let him go to oregon where he was signed, he has been a wasted scholarship..
 

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i'll run a query with army, navy, gt, air force and gaso. not sure to add new mex since they have been all over the board in offensive style and now going to no-huddle spread/option for 2015. will run all these teams separate as well. will post findings....
I think Navy is the best example because they were the best independent with an option offense, although they will be in the first year of a conference now. GT and AF are both in a conference, and I would think their opponents have somewhat adjusted to playing them. But like I said, I haven't really kept tabs recently.
 

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since 2000 teams in week 2 after starting season vs AF/NAVY/ARMY/GT are 13-20 ATS, 7-28 SU including 0-7 ATS (1-6 SU) vs Air Force
http://sportsdatabase.com/ncaafb/qu...umber=2+and+season>2000+&submit=++S+D+Q+L+!++


if you drop GT from that list and only use academies the #'s are even better.... 9-15 ATS and 3-22(!) straight up


http://sportsdatabase.com/ncaafb/qu...umber=2+and+season>2000+&submit=++S+D+Q+L+!++
That's because the academies are almost always underdogs or very short favorites. Big advantage there, especially when they are catching a team between conference games. GT is a more respectable program, so they aren't going to get as many favorable lines. I've always loved these option offenses as big dogs with their ability to shorten games...Navy used to be especially tough on the road.
 

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Correct me if I am wrong, but Paul Johnson did not take over G Tech until 2008 so before that they were not an option team.


It's an interesting theory that the team in question may be spending too much time preparing to defend the option, an offense they may have never seen before. Then the following week they have to switch gears and prepare for a more traditional offense. I think we often use the same preparation theory in another way when a team is on short rest and has to take on an option offense for which they have not had time to prepare. Might be worth a look to filter out conference opponents as teams in the MWC are probably familiar with defending the option at this point. With Navy joining the AAC this year, maybe it will give them a brief advantadge when it comes to conference play?




I think we also have to consider that Ohio State was not firing on all cylinders early last season as that Navy game I think was a lot closer than the final score indicated. I think they were pretty inexperienced on the o-line as well.
 

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