OHIO St for Final 4..

[8ate]

If you go with AALA with one loss; against Ole Miss at Home..>>

Why not go with Buckeyes with one loss at home..>>against top 5 team..>

Buckeyes in conference with 4 x top 10teams; ALA in weak SEC this year..>

Ohio ST would beat Bammy playing like they did against TTUN..>>

Just that simple. OHIO STATE gets in championship 4; they win the whole thing...

Final 4..>>Clemson, ALA, Michigan STate, Buckeyes...

Just that simple..

 

[RunLeeRun]

You don't win your conference, you need outside help. It's simple. ACC winner/BIG TEN winner/Oklahoma look to be as is in as can be. They would all be conference winners with 1 loss. That trumps Ohio St. Buckeye hope rests on Florida beating Alabama in some kind of fluky game where they score 3 special teams/defensive touchdowns and beat Bama by 1 in a sloppy Bama performance. Florida is the only team I can see OSU jumping and even that would be a long shot, because they would be a conference winner. Meyer fucked up when he chose Corduroy Jones to be his QB. Some of us here in the off-season were saying he wasn't the right QB especially considering the mindset it takes to backup a title.

 

[ANOTHERDAY]

Ohio St was 30-1 to win the title a few days ago and I wanted to put some $$$ on it, but they would need help and I don't think they will get it. If they got it, they win it all

 

[DesertNole]

Would take Bama blowing up to get them in, don't think that happens.

 

[MackDonald]

This is "the way-it is" with the college football play-off format.....you can't [win] your way into [it] on the field...you need help from others....(8) or even (16) tem play-offs solve most of the uncertainties.

 

[Albatross]

Ohio St lost at home to a backup QB.

Big 10 is like the SEC West was last year.

 

[skdeuce]

Big 10 outside of Iowa and Michigan St. is pathetic. Not sure where you get that conference is good. When you play a bunch of shit teams all year long. The entirety of the first post is really comical. Some people really do out on their teams colored glasses and see no other logical reasoning. Ohio St. Doesn't deserve a playoff berth period.

 

[Murphy8276]

This is "the way-it is" with the college football play-off format.....you can't [win] your way into [it] on the field...you need help from others....(8) or even (16) tem play-offs solve most of the uncertainties.

8 teams in would eliminate quite a lot of discussions at this point, but in the first rankings every team in top 25 would be a in a title hunt. puff_>>

I am all for 1 loss teams getting in, but 2 and 3 loss teams shouldn't be a part of any playoff. Double elimination basically.

-murph

 

[Murphy8276]

Big 10 outside of Iowa and Michigan St. is pathetic. Not sure where you get that conference is good. When you play a bunch of shit teams all year long. The entirety of the first post is really comical. Some people really do out on their teams colored glasses and see no other logical reasoning. Ohio St. Doesn't deserve a playoff berth period.

Big10 is the best top to bottom conference in football this year according to the committee. If they are wrong then that is the committee's fault, but they do not believe the Big10 is weak whatsoever and have ranked the most teams possible showing that to this point.

-murph

 

[MackDonald]

Alabama defeats Florida) next week-end (In) ....Oklahoma (In) Clemson defeats NC [in] and The winner of the Iowa/MSU game (in); Where is there room for Ohio State?

 

[Murphy8276]

Alabama defeats Florida) next week-end (In) ....Oklahoma (In) Clemson defeats NC [in] and The winner of the Iowa/MSU game (in); Where is there room for Ohio State?

OSU needs a lot of help. I believe they need both Florida and North Carolina to win to guarantee entry. If just one pulls the upset, especially NC, there is the chance it is treated by the committee as a play-in style game to the playoffs and OSU would not have the conference championship to back any reasoning against that up. Ideally in any scenario where Ohio State has a chance, they need Michigan St to dismantle Iowa so that their 1 loss is to a playoff contender by a walk off fg.

-murph

 

[Albatross]

Ohio St SOS sucks.

 

[silver7]

OSU/Stan in the Rose, it's THAT simple. ND/Iowa Fiesta.

 

[MattyMatt]

You don't win your conference, you need outside help. It's simple. ACC winner/BIG TEN winner/Oklahoma look to be as is in as can be. They would all be conference winners with 1 loss. That trumps Ohio St. Buckeye hope rests on Florida beating Alabama in some kind of fluky game where they score 3 special teams/defensive touchdowns and beat Bama by 1 in a sloppy Bama performance. Florida is the only team I can see OSU jumping and even that would be a long shot, because they would be a conference winner. Meyer fucked up when he chose Corduroy Jones to be his QB. Some of us here in the off-season were saying he wasn't the right QB especially considering the mindset it takes to backup a title.

So you see UNC jumping all the way up and In for sure When they beat Clemson?

 

[Murphy8276]

So you see UNC jumping all the way up and In for sure When they beat Clemson?

I think UNC will be in top 8 this week so it wont be that mega of a jump if you view it in segments. I do see your point though that #14 to #4 seems ridiculous. UNC has their best shot if they win and Iowa wins handily, because Michigan St will fall outside and OSU still underneath them so NC gets in by default (and of course from beating Clemson, lol)


-murph

 

[MattyMatt]

I think UNC will be in top 8 this week so it wont be that mega of a jump if you view it in segments. I do see your point though that #14 to #4 seems ridiculous. UNC has their best shot if they win and Iowa wins handily, because Michigan St will fall outside and OSU still underneath them so NC gets in by default (and of course beating Clemson, lol)


-murph

UNC is one of the best teams in the Country imo. Flying under the radar most of the season bc of the debacle to SC to start the season. As much talent and coaching as anyone in the Country. A better team than Clemson imo, and I've had it circled for weeks and weeks and think they hand it to Clemson come Saturday. We shall see, I guess.

 

[Biz]

IN:
Oklahoma, Iowa/Michigan St winner. These 2 are locks.

In with a win:
Alabama, Clemson. They both win there is no debate. These 4 teams are in.

Florida isn't beating Alabama. That leaves one spot.

If Clemson loses they are out, but UNC isn't necessarily in. I think the football committee is looking at this like the basketball committee does. Who have you played? Look at the CFP rankings , before this week they were ranked 14th. Would a win over Clemson vault them up significantly? Maybe it does.

So assuming Alabama wins and Clemson loses, we have the following teams looking at 1 spot:
North Carolina
Ohio St
Stanford if they beat USC (probably out with their 2 losses)

Its basically UNC vs Ohio St.

Does the committee have it in them to exclude a 1 Loss conference champion, who just beat the #1 ranked team? After this week, UNC should be ranked ahead of at least 5 more teams putting them at #9 minimum. Beat Clemson and you have to put them ahead of them. Who would be ranked ahead of them, outside of the 3 locks, if they beat Clemson??

Ohio ST and Stanford are the only possibilities.

How much weight will the committee put into a win over Clemson? I would think it would be pretty big. Enough to vault a 2 loss Stanford who would beat an unranked USC team for their championship.

It comes down to this:

Would the committee put in another Big 12 team over a 1 loss Conf Champion that just beat the #1 team in the country?

To me, it looks like the ACC championship game is a play in game, winner gets in and Ohio St is left out.

Now if Alabama somehow loses? Ohio St is right back in the picture, or possibly Stanford. But assuming an Alabama win, the ACC winner gets the last spot.

 

[pathologist]

UNC has no shot against Clemson

 

[MattyMatt]

UNC has no shot against Clemson

Curious of your reasoning? No shot is pretty strong wording...

 

[MackDonald]

OSU needs a lot of help. I believe they need both Florida and North Carolina to win to guarantee entry. If just one pulls the upset, especially NC, there is the chance it is treated by the committee as a play-in style game to the playoffs and OSU would not have the conference championship to back any reasoning against that up. Ideally in any scenario where Ohio State has a chance, they need Michigan St to dismantle Iowa so that their 1 loss is to a playoff contender by a walk off fg.

-murph

I like your style Murph....the "eternal optimist" ......We all cheer for the under-dog many times, that is, if we don't have a small wager on the favorite(s)...ha.