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I never heard or seen this in my lifetime. Was this popular ??

Mods leave this in the main forum for awhile I would like to hear from the old timers


TURF HARNESS RACE SET FOR FRIDAY AT MEADOWLANDS
Harness racing returns to the Meadowlands turf course for the first time in more than 30 years Friday, June 26, 2009.

A field of eight pacers will take to the grass in the $15,000 third race. They will line up behind the mobile starting gate at 7:45 p.m. (est.) for the one-mile event, which was postponed from June 19 due to inclement weather.

The last time the Meadowlands held a turf race for Standardbred racehorses was the Coliseum Cup on June 21, 1978. It was a competition amongst racing’s Manzi family - patriarchs John Sr., Al and Richard, as well as cousins Steve, Richard Jr., Gary, John and Cat. Richard Manzi Jr. won the race with a pacer named El Nob in a time of 2:09.3.

While turf racing for Standardbreds is a rarity in the United States, it is common practice at United Kingdom and Down Under racetracks.

Chris Ryder, who will send out Onedin Legacy N from post one in the Friday feature, experienced grass racing in his native New Zealand.

“I'd say five to 10 percent of the races there now are on the grass,” noted Ryder, who was born in Greymouth, NZ. “It used to be more. Most of the racetracks that have a grass course also have a stone dust main track, and if it rains they move right to it. The races on grass usually go slower, especially if it is soft, but if it is hard they can really go. Horses like the grass. The way the race goes mostly depends on the condition of the track, but the turf course at the Meadowlands looks in good shape and the track is big enough to accommodate a full field."

Although they are not represented in Friday night’s race, Meadowlands-based trainers Mark Harder and Kelvin Harrison also recall racing on the turf Down Under.

"There was no grass courses to train on, unless you went to a county fair or something like that,” said Harder, who was born in Wellington, NZ. “You basically had to wing it. The one thing you might want to do here for a turf race is tighten up the hobbles a bit. This would help prevent some slipping and sliding."

Harrison's home track in New Zealand held three days of all turf cards each year.

“There's not a whole lot of difference racing in the grass,” explained Harrison, originally from Methuen, NZ. “The races go slower, but it's pretty standard. You take up the hobbles a bit. I wish I had one in the class to put in this week."

Nick Santagata, the track’s all-time leading Thoroughbred jockey in wins, has the most experience racing over the Meadowlands turf course. He is a proponent of racing over grass vs. dirt.

"I love racing on the turf,” Santagata said. “If I could race every race on the turf I would. Nothing kicks back at you. It's a little bit tighter racing, the turns are wider. You can't lose ground and go wide though on the turf, or you'll get nothing. It's better on the horse, too. It doesn't sting their feet or jar them as much as the main track. The speed doesn't hold up as much as it does on the main track, so it makes for better racing for the fans."

Race 3, Friday, June 26
$15,000 claiming pacers
PP, Horse, Driver, Trainer
1, Onedin Legacy N, Chris Ryder, Chris Ryder, 5-1
2, Nicky Hanover N, Tim Tetrick, Carmine Fusco, 4-1
3, Keepthepeace N, John Campbell, Vincent Fusco Jr., 6-1
4, View To A Kill, Shaun Vallee, Shaun Vallee, 12-1
5, Allamerican Champ, Donald Jacobs, Carrie Perry, 15-1
6, Born With Class, Yannick Gingras, Josh Green, 3-1
7, Diamond Jack, Ron Pierce, Michael Posner, 5-28, One Park Place, Andy Miller, Paul Blumenfeld, 10-1


for the hell of It I am playing my birthday numbers

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i saw much of this when I spent a few months in Australia.

never in the USA, Ive not heard of this. I have a few older harness horse racing history books, I will have a look at those...
 
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Wow, this Brings back memories.....

I happen to be there that day, when it was the Race of the Manzi's

The talk around the track was that this was going to be the Next best thing. But other's, like myself....thought that it would not be good for the horses.
Which it never really came of anything, because it was more of a PR thing back than.

The Manzi Family has been known in Harness Racing for Years....
I know about 90% of them...even John who was the PR man up in Monticello for a Zillion Years.
Of course, Cat Manzi is known by everyone in this business. And Steve, who use to be a Trainer ( & did driver at one time ) became a Horse Agent before selling Real Estate for years now.

Kalvin Harrison, who is a Much older guy. Use to tell us Stories about racing Down Under.

He use to say, You know...You guys do it all wrong around here...
Because horses in NZ race Clock wise, and Train Counter Clock wise...
Where we race Counter clock wise......He would say it takes time to get a horse that has raced in NZ to race here in the States.
Thus...the reason why 85% of NZ & AUS horses that start to race here in the States, start out at an Older age.

Anyway, it sounds like it will be fun to Watch. I will be watching.
But I don't think you will see this Often.
 

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With all of the rain we had in the northeast. I am not sure this will run on friday.

I would imagine the turf would have to be firm for this event:drink:
 

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how do you even begin to handicap this??? i guess decent from a pr standpoint but useless in terms of gambling
 

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they were supposed to run this race last friday and had to cancel because of all the rain
 

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browers picks,good luck guys: David Brower's picks: 1-7-2-6 <TABLE cellSpacing=2 cellPadding=2 width=563 border=0><TBODY><TR class=chartHead><TD>H</TD><TD noWrap>Horse</TD><TD>Comment</TD></TR><TR class=chartRow vAlign=top><TD>1</TD><TD noWrap>Onedin Legacy N(L)</TD><TD>Loved his effort in the off-the-turfer last week. Have to believe if this one stays on the grass that this guy has a shot at a price.</TD></TR><TR class=chartRow vAlign=top><TD>2</TD><TD noWrap>Nicky Hanover N(L)</TD><TD>Perhaps the most disappointing entrant last week. Was roused and asked and basically had no kick! Better find more now.</TD></TR><TR class=chartRow vAlign=top><TD>3</TD><TD noWrap>Keepthepeace N(L)</TD><TD>Had to like his improved effort against lesser. This will be tougher test, but if he likes the grass, he's got JC to go along.</TD></TR><TR class=chartRow vAlign=top><TD>4</TD><TD noWrap>View To A Kill(L)</TD><TD>Was a longshot last week from an outer post and I feel in the same spot again. A lot to prove, whether it's grass or dirt.</TD></TR><TR class=chartRow vAlign=top><TD>5</TD><TD noWrap>Allamerican Champ(L)</TD><TD>Looks like the biggest longshot. Demand fair value if you fancy his chances. Simply not quick enough to go with these.</TD></TR><TR class=chartRow vAlign=top><TD>6</TD><TD noWrap>Born With Class(L)</TD><TD>A fresh face, who was not entered last week. Barn figures why not take a shot? It's a class drop and he might step up big.</TD></TR><TR class=chartRow vAlign=top><TD>7</TD><TD noWrap>Diamond Jack(L)</TD><TD>This fella raced well last time and fully expect to see another aggressive attempt. If the trip is smooth, he can probably win it.</TD></TR><TR class=chartRow vAlign=top><TD>8</TD><TD noWrap>One Park Place(L)</TD><TD>Not exactly a winning machine and he's stuck in a tough spot here. Will have to come from back and might need mayhem</TD></TR></TBODY></TABLE>
 
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Not 100% this race on Turf is a Go Tonight.

It has been raining here most of the Morning....But no word yet from the Meadowlands
 

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