Obamacare rates to soar by as much as 23 per cent in 2015

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[h=1]Obamacare rates to soar by as much as 23 per cent in 2015[/h]
  • Rate hikes will vary from state to state next year, with Florida appearing hardest-hit so far
  • Many insurers with more modest increases have been keeping rates down by limiting which doctors, hospitals and prescription drugs are covered
  • California could see rates skyrocket if voters approve new authority for the insurance commissioner in November
  • A federal court ruling, if it stands, would hike monthly costs by as much as $450 because the federal government would no longer be able to subsidize rates in 36 states


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Sticker shock is around the corner for many Americans with government-brokered medical coverage, as insurance companies are beginning to apply their first-year costs to next year's premiums.
In the case of Florida, some consumers will pay as much as 23 per cent more when their plans are renewed in the fall, according to the Florida Office of Insurance Regulation.
When that agency released its projections on Monday, 23 per cent was the upper end of the bad news. But some consumers in the Sunshine State could see their premiums drop by 5 per cent instead.
That's because many insurance companies have been controlling costs by limiting the number of doctors, hospitals and prescription drugs their plans will cover in 2015.



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The average in Florida will come out to a 13.2 per cent hike.
The numbers in virtually every state are all across the board, with the biggest rate hikes announced to date coming in states where the federal government runs the Obamacare marketplaces.

States like California, which runs its own exchange, appear to be escaping with more modest increases for 2015. Its regulators have announced a 4.2 per cent 'weighted average' hike.

That percentage itself could be hiding a spread of rate increases and decreases similar to Florida's.
Covered California, the state's Obamacare exchange, said on July 31 that 13 per cent of the state's consumers would see hikes of 8 per cent 'or more' next year.
The Los Angeles Times reported that some rates in Los Angeles are expected to rise by 16 per cent.


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But the worst news in California is yet to come: Dave Jones, the state's insurance commissioner, said current numbers are 'merely a pause in the double-digit rate increases we've seen historically.'
In November voters will consider Proposition 45, a measure that would expand Jones's authority to set insurance rates.

Insurers, Jones told the Times, may be holding rates down in anticipation of the new system, provided it passes.
Complicating things further is a recent ruling from the Federal Court of Appeals in Washington, D.C. that found it's illegal for the government to extend health insurance subsidies to consumers in states that didn't set up their own exchanges.
If the decision stands, people in 36 states would likely see their out-of-pocket expenses skyrocket.
The subsidies amount to as much as $450 per month in some states like Wyoming and Mississippi. Residents of Utah and Tennessee would lose the least, an average of about $150 per month.

A separate court ruled the same day that those subsidies are constitutional. The Obama administration is appealing the ruling it disagrees with.
Any increase, no matter how modest, will likely bring catcalls from conservatives and other Republicans.

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President Barack Obama promised Americans during his 2008 presidential campaign – and long afterward – that his Affordable Care Act law would bring health care savings of $2,500 per family each year, on average, by the end of his first term in office.

He also promised on dozens of occasions that Americans could 'keep their health care plans' if they wanted to.
That promise quickly vanished as insurers sent millions of cancellation notices since existing plans often didn't conform to the lengthy and byzantine collection of mandatory benefits Congress decided every American must have.
Those requirements, as much as any other factor, have driven up costs.
Some opinion-shapers are beginning to dissect the reasons for rate hikes, and new taxes are part of the picture.
Obamacare will 'result in insurance plans being taxed more than $100 billion between 2014 and 2022,' the right-leaning .Las Vegas Review editorial board wrote on July 23, 'with the Congressional Budget Office concluding that the taxes "would be largely passed through to consumers in the form of higher premiums for private coverage".'
The Review-Journa has called for a complete repeal of the law.
In a CNN poll released July 23, twice as many Americans say the law has hurt them compared with those who say it helped.

'Thirty-five percent of Americans told pollsters that Obamacare has made them and their families worse off. Just 18 percent believe they are better off.
Forty-six percent, almost half of Americans, say the law has made no difference in their lives.


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What happened to saving the average family $2500 a year?

You mean he was lying?

Wtf is wrong with the libs in this country? Oh I forgot, theyre smarter than us stoopid conservatives.

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You LIE!
 

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HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA HA

What a great series of flashbacks. 2:39 of the complete moron President saying over & over how "we're going to lower your health care premiums"

 

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what i love about prObamans is they always have a bullshit rhetoric when confronted with facts. they were discussing the soaring rates on a talk show this morning and the libby host came up with the following two comrade-like debating points

1) rate increases vary by state (yes he fully agreed that rate increase are happening but if you don't like it, then move)
2) rate increases to health care are nothing new

ok, great. so what about the promises of obamacare stabilizing prices and, especially, annual rate increases?

like so many douches on this forum there is simply no reasoning with some people. when you've devoured the kool-aid, whether it be Obama-love, religion, palestinian hate, global warming, stimulus, news propaganda, etc there are no facts that can dissuade your opinion.

hell you voted for this so live with it which is more or less what Chief Justice Roberts told us a couple years ago:

"It is not our job to protect the people from the consequences of their political choices." - thanks Johnny
 

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oh i forgot point #3 from the host

3) these 2015 premium increases are only projections...the actual % increase could be much lower.

yeah, when the fuck has THAT ever happened? they can, and will, be much higher. period!

one thing that has stayed true is that the United States again clocked in as the most expensive healthcare in the world.
 

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One of Obama's big ideas for reforming health care failed a test in California

By Philip Klein | August 5, 2014 | 2:57 pm

Topics: Beltway Confidential Barack Obama Obamacare California Health Care HHS
A study published in the journal Health Affairs looked at an ambitious three-year pilot program... In President Obama’s June 2009 speech to the American Medical Association (now infamous for containing the most emphatic articulation of his promise that people who liked their health care plan could keep it), he described how his legislation would reform the way medical providers are paid.

“We need to bundle payments so you aren't paid for every single treatment you offer a patient with a chronic condition like diabetes, but instead paid well for how you treat the overall disease,” Obama told the crowd of physicians.

Obama was articulating what would become one of the key payment reforms in his health care law — a proposal aimed at giving incentives to providers to control costs by rewarding them for providing less expensive care.


But a study published in the journal Health Affairs looked at an ambitious three-year pilot program of bundled payments in California that was funded by a $2.9 million grant from Obama’s 2009 economic stimulus package — and found that the program was such a massive failure, it could hardly get off the ground.


“In spite of a high level of enthusiasm and effort, the pilot did not succeed in its goal to implement bundled payment for orthopedic procedures across multiple payers and hospital-physician partners,” the study reads. “An evaluation of the pilot documented a number of barriers, such as administrative burden, state regulatory uncertainty, and disagreements about bundle definition and assumption of risk. Ultimately, few contracts were signed, which resulted in insufficient volume to test hypotheses about the impact of bundled payment on quality and costs.”


The hope of the bundled payments approach is that by moving toward compensating providers for the full treatment of a medical condition, those providers have less incentive to order more tests and procedures and prescribe the most expensive drugs, because instead of getting paid for each service, they only get to keep whatever is left over after the full treatment is complete.


In addition to controlling costs, advocates of this approach argue that it would improve quality of treatment by creating performance incentives.


But the study notes that despite the furor within the health care policy community for this type of payment reform, “Evidence is lacking on the effectiveness of bundled payment in terms of improving the quality of care, reducing its cost, or both. Existing evidence about bundled payment programs mostly comes from bundled payment designs with more limited scope that have little generalizability to current programs.”


In Sept. 2010, a division of the Department of Health and Human Services known as the Agency for Healthcare Research and Quality awarded a $2.9 million grant from economic stimulus funds to a three-year project aimed at testing bundled payments in the real world.

The Integrated Healthcare Association and the RAND Corporation oversaw the project.


The study in Health Affairs, which was also funded from the stimulus grant, was written by Susan Ridgely, David de Vries and Peter Hussey of RAND and Kevin Bozic of the University of California, San Francisco.


Initially, six health plans and eight hospitals signed up for the pilot program, but eventually only three insurance plans and two hospitals participated. The study was supposed to measure costs of treating orthopedic patients under age 65 through bundled payments, but there were just 35 such cases over the three-year period — far too few to draw any conclusions about cost controls.
The program ran into a number of complications, according to the study. One problem was defining the length of time or types of services that would be covered under the bundled payment arrangement, and eventually providers excluded obese patients and rehab services. Hospitals and insurers got into their usual fights about payments — insurers thought they should be paying less because payments were being bundled, but hospitals sought more money because they argued they were absorbing more risk.
Other technical problems arose, the authors write. For instance, insurance company computer systems were set up to make payments the traditional way, rather than in bundles, and there wasn’t enough volume to justify purchasing new software. In addition, the program ran into the problem of regulatory uncertainty given the complex set of rules in place in California.


Ultimately, the study reports, “little experience was gained in actually providing orthopedic services under bundled payment arrangements and learning what the requirements might be for ‘scaling’ bundled payment approaches nationally.


The authors write, “There remains a strong conceptual basis to support a role for bundled payment in bending the cost curve in the health care system. Still, there is limited evidence that bundled payment will achieve its promise.”


This one study doesn’t necessarily disprove that bundled payments could work under different circumstances, and the authors write that the study resulted in “hard-won lessons” that could be useful in future pilot programs.


But its also worth noting that its failure comes on top of other issues raised about the bundled payments approach.


For instance, a May 2012 study reported in the New York Times found that bundled payments were having dangerous consequences for dialysis payments, because clinics were prescribing fewer prescription drugs, and blood transfusions spiked. Scott Gottlieb of the American Enterprise Institute has argued that this incentive for doctors to prescribe fewer drugs could be particularly harmful for cancer patients who rely on expensive medications.
 

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