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[FONT=Arial, Helvetica, sans-serif]This 30-second ad exposes Obama's 'dirty little secret the media won't talk about' — his radical plan to give illegal aliens Social Security benefits and Medicaid, full healthcare coverage.
By Obama's own count there are 12 million illegal aliens in the U.S. and he wants them all getting government benefits.
Obama has stated he also wants to give each and every one of them amnesty and citizenship.
As for them learning English, he has stated he thinks American kids, your kids, should learn Spanish.
There is no doubt this man is the most radical leftist ever nominated by the Democratic party.
We have already exposed Obama's shocking plan to give illegals driver's licenses — even though everyone knows the 9/11 plot began with 13 of the 19 terrorists getting driver's licenses.

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Somebody please tell me this is a lie, this email is not accurate.


If true, what the fuck are we doing

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road knows more about this one issue than anybody around here
 

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This is the same Roadie that kept trying to link Obama to Larry Lowlife in the oral sex and cocaine in the back of a limo even after it had been debunked. Now you put him up as an unbiased expert on Obama's immigration policy.

Are you a total fool? or just think we are.
 

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I don't like either candidate, but this sounds like bullshit to me. On Barack Obama's website, they have this under illegal immagrants:

Barack Obama and Joe Biden's Plan

Create Secure Borders

Obama and Biden want to preserve the integrity of our borders. He supports additional personnel, infrastructure and technology on the border and at our ports of entry.
Improve Our Immigration System

Obama and Biden believe we must fix the dysfunctional immigration bureaucracy and increase the number of legal immigrants to keep families together and meet the demand for jobs that employers cannot fill.
Remove Incentives to Enter Illegally

Obama and Biden will remove incentives to enter the country illegally by cracking down on employers who hire undocumented immigrants.
Bring People Out of the Shadows

Obama and Biden support a system that allows undocumented immigrants who are in good standing to pay a fine, learn English, and go to the back of the line for the opportunity to become citizens.
Work with Mexico

Obama and Biden believe we need to do more to promote economic development in Mexico to decrease illegal immigration.
 

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To be fair, here's what's on John McCains website:

John McCain believes America's immigration system is broken. He is committed to a two-step process to reform.

Securing Our Borders First. John McCain's top immigration priority is to finish securing our borders in an expedited manner. Governors of border states will be required to certify that the border is secure. Steps to border security include:
  • Setting clear guidelines and objectives for securing the border through physical and virtual barriers.
  • Ensuring that adequate funding is provided for resources on the ground, but also training facilities, support staff and the deployment of technologies.
  • Dedicating funding to US Attorney’s offices in border states.
  • Implementing sound policies for contracting Department of Homeland Security software and infrastructure.
  • Deploy Unmanned Aerial Vehicles and other aircraft where needed and appropriate in the border region.
  • Continue implementation of the US-VISIT comprehensive visitor security program.
Comprehensive Immigration Initiatives for a Secure Nation. Once the borders are secure, John McCain will:
Prosecute “Bad-Actor” Employers. John McCain will implement a secure, accurate, and reliable electronic employment verification system to ensure that individuals are screened for work eligibility in a real-time fashion. John McCain will use this new system in conjunction with other Department of Homeland Security resources to identify and aggressively prosecute employers that continue to hire illegal immigrants. The Electronic Employment Verification System will:
  • Establish a user-friendly system employing a limited set of secure documents that contain biometric data and are electronically verifiable to check a worker’s identity.
  • Provide responses to employer inquiries in a prompt and timely manner to provide both the employer and employee security in their hiring decisions.
  • Update and ensure the accuracy of current databases of government agencies that play a role in employment verification.
  • Protect the identities of each employee being screened and allow both employer and employee adequate time and opportunity to correct possible errors with any information in the system.
  • Institute targeted auditing by Department of Labor in order to weed out employers abusing the system.
Meet America’s Labor Needs. John McCain will implement temporary worker programs that will reflect the labor needs of the United States in both the high-tech and low skilled sectors while protecting the employment opportunities for US workers:
  • Highly Skilled workers:
    • Ensure high skilled workers trained and educated in the United States have the opportunity to stay and work in the United States upon graduation.
    • Reform caps for H-1B visa program to rise and fall in response to market conditions. Reduce bureaucracy and waiting times for workers to arrive in the United States.
    • Increase available green card numbers to reflect employer and employee demand.
    • Extend the ability for H-1B visa holders to renew their H-1B status while waiting for their green card number to become available.
    • Ensure available and qualified American workers are given adequate and fair opportunities to apply for available positions.
  • Low-skilled non-agricultural workers:
    • Implement a usable, market based system for low-skilled workers to enter the United States in an orderly fashion.
    • Ensure that the cap rises and falls with market demand to meet the changing needs of the economy.
    • Provide for adequate worker protection to guard against employer abuses of temporary workers.
    • Protect American workers by designing a program that allows willing and eligible United States workers adequate opportunity to apply for available positions.
    • Ensure that workers return to their home countries after their temporary period in the United States.
    • Allow for appropriate visa renewals to assure that both the employer and employee have stability in the workforce.
    • Offer a limited number of green cards to reflect the small number of workers that may wish to remain in the United States permanently.
  • Low-skilled agricultural workers:
    • Reform the H-2A visa program to provide a non-bureaucratic, adaptable, useable program that is reflective of market needs and protects both the immigrant and US workers.
Address the Undocumented. John McCain will address the fact that we have a large number undocumented individuals living in the United States and working in our economy:
  • All undocumented individuals will be required to enroll in a program to resolve their status.
  • This program will use background checks to identify criminal aliens for prosecution and deportation.
    • Assure that the remaining undocumented immigrants learn English, pay back taxes and fines, and pass a citizenship course as part of a path to legal status.
    • Guarantee that no person here illegally receives a green card before those that have been legally waiting outside the country.
    • Do a proper accounting of all social security numbers used and attained illegally, rectifying the accounts and alerting those whose identity had been compromised.
  • The program will also ensure that all undocumented aliens either leave or follow the path to legal residence. America cannot permit a permanent category of individuals that do not have recognized status – a permanent second class.
  • In addition, the program will provide a system that is fair, humane, realistic, and ensures the rights of the individual and families will be protected.
    • Ensure that families are reunited.
    • Address in an expedited manner the status of individuals brought here illegally as minors through no will or intention of their own.
Eliminate the Family Backlog. John McCain will commit to clearing out the backlog of individuals that are waiting legally outside of the country, some for up to 20 years, for their green card number to become available.
 

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road knows more about this one issue than anybody around here
:lol:,,,,to quote bar....comedy gold..........he has a ton of info on the position he likes........it is like the ne ram game........i love ne so i only have ne stats and why they will win
 

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Yes Willie it's true. He is also going to give them interest free/ no downpayment loans for new houses and BMW's too.

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well, we all know he's giving y'all "hope", eh?:103631605
 

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BTW: websites don't do much for me, they're all about getting elected.

What's been in the man's past policy positions that matter most to me. In that respect, I think McCain is too soft, I expect a Liberal's liberal to be much worse.
 

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Why? Because you dont like liberals?

Because they tend to have more "liberal" immigration policies :think2:

thus they tend to have more lax standards

they see another big demographic they can promise the world to, need those easy pickings :103631605
 

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Mexicans have been coming across the border ever since I can remember and conservatives have been in charge most of the time.

It is easy to control. We dont need fences, we need employers seriously punished. Punished to a point of forceing them outta business.

With the money that Missouri beef aka Tyson foods are sending politicans, good luck with that.
 
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My Opinion neither Obama or McCain worth the damn on this issue thats why I voted absentee ballot for http://baldwin08.com .... Sorry about the smears on your Candidate Punter but seems Obama & the Dems (not all) want to let everybody in & thats no good for the Country for us our kids & Grandkids future... We need to quit thinking about just ME & NOW & think ahead for our kids...I think McCain would come around to reason & common sense if we keep fighting hard enough.... Anything I post about Obama really comes around to Immigration which is really the most important issue out there. Can you spell J.O.B.S for Americans & MANY other important issues directly tied to & affected by excessive Immigration... The front page at http://numbersusa.com has links to where all the Presidential & Senate & Congressional Candidates stand on Immigration (Grade Cards) check it out join free & make your calls & send your faxes.Check out the Immigration thread here for more info on this important subject...Thanks for asking Willie.
 

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Thanks for the link Road

John McCain D
Obama D-

John McCain is one of the lowest rated Republicans, while there are scores of Democrats with horrific grades.

It appears the rankings are based on voting records and are not biased. There are a few Democrats given A's and a few Republicans given D's.

As I expected, the Democrats have a far worse record on immigration than Republicans, although both Presidential Candidates are horrific.

Obama will enabled to enact weak immigration legislation with his Klan controlling Congress, that's a lock.
 

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Yes roadie and you are in great company. You guys need to all get together and pal around.
 
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